I DONT HAVE TIME TO BUILD MY OWN FRAMES BECAUSE IT INTERFERS WITH MY REST TIME. LAST WINTER I READ ABOUT USEING SKEWERS FOR COMB SUPPORT. WHEN I BUILD MY FRAMES I DRILL TWO OR THREE HOLES IN THE BOTTOM STRIP EQUALLY SPACED AND USE THE SKEWERS WITH A DROP OF GLUE, I DRIVE THE SHARP END OF THE SKEWER INTO THE TOP FRAME AND GLUE. SO FAR I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THE WAY BEES START COMB NEXT TO THE SKEWERS, AND OF COURSE FILL IN THE SPACE. I AM GOING ALL FOUNDATIONLESS, THANKS TO MR. BUSH.