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Offline kbenz

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concrete block
« on: March 14, 2012, 09:57:43 pm »
A company called me about a hive in their building. went out and checked. they seem to be in the 10" block wall.
I've done cut-outs, but never a block wall. It's too far away and would be very difficult to do a trap out. Told the maintenance guy what I would have to do and he said no way would they go for that. Sent the woman an email with estimate.(she also sent a check for the inspection fee) and absolutely no repairs will be made by me
Got an email back yesterday. They want me to do it.
This hive is 3 stories up in a concrete block wall. use of their lift is included.

Anyone got any tips on a removal from concrete block wall?
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Offline BlueBee

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Re: concrete block
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 10:08:53 pm »
No I don't.  But I did see Billy the Exterminator deal with bees in the concrete blocks of a fire hall once.  No, you do not want to know what he did to them  :(
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 10:11:08 pm »
I have several videos of block wall removals on youtube. Search MrBeedude.

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Re: concrete block
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 10:33:49 pm »
I've watched many of Scott and Peg's videos and I think they have concrete block removal down to a science.  Their videos are better than reality TV.  For the last couple of weeks I watch a few of them every evening as I relax before turning in.  Great entertainment and I've learned a thing or two.
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 09:35:43 pm »
watched your videos. quite informative. what were ya using to cut the block?
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 10:11:01 pm »
Get you a diamond blade for the saw.   And a hammer.
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 11:02:50 pm »
As Allen said, a diamond blad on a 4" grinder works well. The blade doesn't quite cut all the way through the block face (lacks about 1/8") which keeps the dusting down of the open brood to a minimum (conc dust will kill open brood in a heart beat!). It just takes a few knocks with a hammer to finish the job.

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Re: concrete block
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 11:35:40 pm »
If you can't do a trap out, then I would suggest pouring a few bottles of almond extract (food grade benzaldehyde) into the top of the block cavities.  Then stand back as the bees leave.
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 11:57:36 pm »
Frame, there are usually so many passageways in a block wall that the queen can duck into (along with lots of bees) that chances are slim that you's ever be able to run them all out. Tons of workers yes, queen...I doubt it.

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Re: concrete block
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 09:10:51 am »
Quote from: hardwood on March 15, 2012, 11:57:36 pm
Frame, there are usually so many passageways in a block wall that the queen can duck into (along with lots of bees) that chances are slim that you's ever be able to run them all out. Tons of workers yes, queen...I doubt it.

Scott

That being the case, how can you ever do a cut out that gets the queen and all the bees. Surely an aromatic gas can penetrate a structure better than a concrete saw?   To improve the chances of benzaldehyde working, you might drill multiple holes at various points in the wall and add benzaldehyde to each.   

I admit I have zero experience with removing bees from such a structure, so I'm just asking a question.
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 09:16:03 am »
When cutting into the block the queen will often times sneak into the next block (or two or three or more) over. I usually have to wait a day after the comb is removed for her to make her way back. She can be found hanging in the original void clustered with a small handful of bees.

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Re: concrete block
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 10:10:29 am »
I forget which video but didn't you purposefully leave a small piece of comb in the void to attract the queen and remaining bees overnight?  That's a great tip that may come in handy someday.
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 11:36:47 am »
Whatever the removal, I always try to leave a small bit of comb until I'm sure I have the queen. You wouldn't believe how many times you'll find her hiding behind that comb.

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Re: concrete block
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 05:31:34 pm »
Quote from: hardwood on March 16, 2012, 11:36:47 am
Whatever the removal, I always try to leave a small bit of comb until I'm sure I have the queen. You wouldn't believe how many times you'll find her hiding behind that comb.

Scott

Sounds like a very good tip.
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Re: concrete block
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2012, 11:00:59 pm »
Thanks for all the tips :)
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