I can go to Lowes or Home Depot and buy 1x12's and build myself for less than buying large number at a lower cost and shipping cost, but I have a guy here that sales me 1x12's from his sawmill for .60 cents a board foot, so why order, I build everything but frames, I buy those, I heard that every frame machine is custom built, not a seller of them anywhere, so I will buy frames for now, maybe one day there will be someone that sale's them (frame machines). oh and there is some that thinks their time is more valuable and count that into their cost, another word for Lazy if you ask me, I build mine when I have nothing more to do, that takes away from just doing nothing IMHO!!!!! beside it make me have more pride in what I am doing for my gals and the future gals I raise ;) ,