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Offline mansellp7

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CCD in Hawaii?
« on: March 07, 2007, 07:56:02 pm »
 I just heard that Ralph Grouse queen breeder from Hawaii, might have just encounterd CCD.  I was told he had his bees next to a macadamia grove that was sprayed with this nicotinamide based chemical. If this is true it proves that this chemical is the reason why the bees are dying. Since there are no mites in Hawaii ,and no chemicals beeing used on the bees . I just want to say" IF "this is true.

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Re: CCD in Hawaii?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 08:41:17 pm »
Very interesting.

Do you have a URL (website address) that we can look at?
Or do you have a way Ralph Grouse can be contacted?
Do you know if he has sent any comb and bee samples to a lab?
How long ago did this happen?
Have bees ever been sprayed with this chemical before?
If so have there been similar or different results?
Has anyone with the Mid-Atlantic Apiculture Research and Extension Consortium (MAAREC) been contacted?

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Re: CCD in Hawaii?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 12:53:35 am »
Arthritis medicine? Why are people spraying this on plants?

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Re: CCD in Hawaii?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 08:15:48 am »
From what I understand this all hapened in the past few days. Nobody has done any samples or checked anything out yet. I guess Gouse told Dave Hackenburg ,and Dave was telling people to try and get the ball rolling. We will just have to wait and see if it is CCD.


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Re: CCD in Hawaii?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2007, 05:50:02 pm »
The symptoms of CCD were NOT seen by Gus Rouse in Hawaii.

What they had was a simple pesticide kill at one location
on one island, and this incident was offered up as a TESTBED
to compare and contrast a known "Imidiclorprid kill" to what
is being seen with CCD.

The symptoms were not at all similar to CCD, but the offer of
the kill as a "testbed" may have resulted in garbled communications.

This clarification comes from Gus Rouse (Kona Queen) in Hawaii:


"This all came about after we received a "spray kill" on one location. 
The farmer had notified me that he had used the systemic imidiclorprid. 
I offered up this info to the [Board Of Directors] of [the American
Beekeeping Federation] as a possible way to clarify this particular cause
to CCD.  My thinking was that tests could be done on my bees without the
complications of varroa mites or controls, viruses, etc. 

Of course within 48 hours we were getting calls from all over the country! 
We are fine.

I contacted Dennis and Mary Ann at Penn State and they had me do a few
For one, we put out combs and they were robbed out in a few hours.
Two, just the field force was damaged and three, all hives recovered
quickly.  We have just had another coffee bloom and I have been checking
for damage and have seen none to date."