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Offline Occam

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Wintering nucs
« on: August 18, 2023, 06:58:43 pm »
So I did a trap out earlier this year,  just picked it up a couple weeks ago in fact.  Decent little colony it seems. The gentleman called me up around noon and said he had a swarm flying around so I told him I'd stop by. It's a very small swarm, few hundred bees at best, and I realize the odds are against them. Question I'm wondering is if I give them a frame of larvae and eggs and feed in a3 frame nuc or combine them. I'm leaning towards the 3 frame, it might work it might not.

Any thoughts, insights, experiences anyone is willing to share would be appreciated.
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Re: Wintering nucs
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2023, 07:52:41 pm »
Occam,
If you don?t mind feeding them for the next three months and really need another hive, go ahead and make up a three frame hive with empty frames for them to grow. You can learn a lot doing it.
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Re: Wintering nucs
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2023, 08:40:49 pm »
I've never wintered nucs, so no advice to offer there, but I do just want to mention that if you do decide to combine them, be sure to check their mite load beforehand and make sure they are healthy.  A small swarm this late could be an abscond, and you wouldn't want to inject a healthy hive with a bunch of sick, parasite-ridden bees right before winter. 
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Re: Wintering nucs
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2023, 12:18:58 am »
Right on, thanks!
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Re: Wintering nucs
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2023, 11:29:34 am »
It's a very small swarm, few hundred bees at best, and I realize the odds are against them.
Unfortunately a few hundred bees of varying ages will not be able to care for a frame of eggs and brood.  Doing a mite test which requires 300 bees would pretty much finish them.
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Re: Wintering nucs
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2023, 02:37:19 pm »
It's a very small swarm, few hundred bees at best, and I realize the odds are against them.
Unfortunately a few hundred bees of varying ages will not be able to care for a frame of eggs and brood.  Doing a mite test which requires 300 bees would pretty much finish them.

Occam do you have a frame of mixed larva, honey, and pollen to give to them for an boosting asset, along with the nurse bees which are on it?
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Re: Wintering nucs
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2023, 02:18:02 pm »
you said a swarm? Which should have a queen and need nothing more than a nectar and pollen frame, or perhaps a frame of capped brood, easy for them to care for and good for beefing up the population, then giving her some laying room.
Or is it a trap out with no queen, because she never came out? That's very different.

I don't know about Oklahoma, but five frame nucs overwinter fine in middle Georgia.

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Re: Wintering nucs
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2023, 09:43:52 pm »
Geez, makes me realize how longbi was offline. Life has a way of keeping you busy.  Anyhow...yes Bob, there was a queen. I put themnin my nuc box with some sugar syrup. Noticed bees flying in and out for about a week then everything went still. Opened the nuc and there were a few bees wandering but they had the "guilty robber" type actions, not "hey you're intruding activity. Sadly I think they must have taken off petty much right away since there was no sign of having tried to lay, build comb, or add resources and I think done bees from another hive or boxes robbed or the feeder
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