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Offline Michael Bush

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Survey for some students
« on: December 15, 2020, 02:37:05 pm »
Some college students have contacted me about a project they are working on to make a hive monitoring tool.  The survey is on Google.  I tried it to make sure there was nothing nefarious.  They would appreciate your input.

https://forms.gle/e8pi9DkhKZ1ppxnNA
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2020, 07:18:04 pm »
Taken!   :smile:
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2020, 07:30:51 pm »
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2020, 07:47:11 pm »
Done

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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2020, 09:46:53 pm »
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2020, 07:06:24 am »
I took it, I'm curious the emphasis on temperature. How would temperature/distribution be useful for remote monitoring?
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2020, 08:28:19 am »
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For one thing, it would tell you the size of the brood area or lack there of.
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2020, 03:04:53 pm »
Done. :)

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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2020, 05:35:36 pm »
Servey is done.


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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2020, 09:30:04 pm »
I think you could tell most everything that a sensor would tell you if you put a temperature sensor in the brood nest and one at the top and then analyzed the differences between those two and the fluctuations.  And you had a microphone and analyzed the sound.  The differences in temperatures and the fluctuations would tell you if it's a strong colony or a weak one.  Maybe even tell you if the top box is oocupied or not, which would tell if you need to add a super.  A weak colony has trouble maintaining a constant temperature in the brood nest.  The sound could tell you if they are being robbed, about to swarm, or are queenless.  You would need a computer probably to do a good analysis of those situations, but from having an observation hive in my living room I think you could program it to tell.
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Survey for some students
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2020, 10:18:26 pm »
Survey completed.
As for what data can be gathered, is helpful, and is of value: check out the graphs of some of these

https://map.beecounted.org/citizen_science/embedded_map
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2020, 11:17:39 pm »
Done.

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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2020, 09:12:59 am »
Done.
I suppose they want all different levels of beeks.

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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2020, 10:30:22 am »
Survey completed.
As for what data can be gathered, is helpful, and is of value: check out the graphs of some of these

https://map.beecounted.org/citizen_science/embedded_map

Wow !  That is the first time I ever really spent time looking at temperature data for a hive (looked at a Rochester NY hive). You really CAN see cluster movement. That is quite interesting!
I have been successfully avoiding spending the money for electronic hive monitoring. 
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2020, 06:49:51 am »
Survey completed.
As for what data can be gathered, is helpful, and is of value: check out the graphs of some of these

https://map.beecounted.org/citizen_science/embedded_map
You can see them move up on this one. https://map.beecounted.org/hive/summary/h5LO

Pretty neat!  I could use it for sure. Tho it would be a different sort of experience, reading a graph vs reading a brood frame. especially at scale.
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Re: Survey for some students
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2021, 09:00:38 pm »
I took it, I'm curious the emphasis on temperature. How would temperature/distribution be useful for remote monitoring?
Matt,
For one thing, it would tell you the size of the brood area or lack there of.
Jim Altmiller
I think you could tell most everything that a sensor would tell you if you put a temperature sensor in the brood nest and one at the top and then analyzed the differences between those two and the fluctuations.  And you had a microphone and analyzed the sound.  The differences in temperatures and the fluctuations would tell you if it's a strong colony or a weak one. 

It's unreal what you can learn with a few sensors. Some kid turned me onto these Govee bluetooth temp/humidity sensors on Amazon for ~$14. I bought a couple, then decided to buy several more. I have one on my porch for a control. I have them on top of frames between sugar bricks, in 10-frame hives of several sizes/strengths as well as Lyson 6-frame poly nucs.

They make a WiFi model for about $35, but I decided I didn't need to be checking them all day from work or other places on earth. I can get a reading on some from my back door, and the rest from my kitchen window (they broadcast every 2 minutes). I have one strong colony that's cranked up heat and started brooding (pollen sub outside may have been a mistake, we'll see), and another that was started late and robbed. Don't think they would make it but now they are over a double-screen board enjoying a strong colony's heat. Admittedly, it's just nice to know everyone's alive without resorting to other methods.

I haven't aggregated any data or drawn any conclusions. Also, never even thought about the microphone thing so thanks Mr. Bush. I can tell you that if I would have made predictions about the temp/humidity of these hives I would have been wrong. Come to think of it, if I'd made predictions about anything bee-related, I'd be wrong so don't go by that. 

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