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Offline Geoff

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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2020, 08:27:38 pm »


  Pretty good summary Kathy !  !
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2020, 11:36:03 pm »
Sounds like a fairly accurate description Kathyp
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2020, 08:31:29 am »
Quote from: Kathyp on November 11, 2020, 04:39:15 pm
Welcome China as the new world leader and be happy.
Some would say it already was.  It has the largest military in the world and they make everything.  It is not having any problems  expanding its influence.  What exactly makes you think we are more powerful then they are?
China has a population of 1.5 billion we have 330 million they have next to nothing in covid deaths while ours keeps rising.  Who do you think is smarter?
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2020, 09:26:08 am »
Quote from: Acebird on November 12, 2020, 08:31:29 am
Quote from: Kathyp on November 11, 2020, 04:39:15 pm
Welcome China as the new world leader and be happy.
Some would say it already was.  It has the largest military in the world and they make everything.  It is not having any problems  expanding its influence.  What exactly makes you think we are more powerful then they are?
China has a population of 1.5 billion we have 330 million they have next to nothing in covid deaths while ours keeps rising.  Who do you think is smarter?

Wonder why folks from all over the world are not immigrating to China? If a family Is BOLD deciding to leave their home country, the hone of their ancestry to start over in a new county, recon why they are not choosing China? Especially since so many folks are embracing the socialist and communist way of government with such great admiration? Perhaps some may think China would be an excellent place to raise a family? Perhaps you are the right person to ask Ace?
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2020, 11:32:42 am »
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Some would say it already was.  It has the largest military in the world and they make everything.  It is not having any problems  expanding its influence.  What exactly makes you think we are more powerful then they are?
China has a population of 1.5 billion we have 330 million they have next to nothing in covid deaths while ours keeps rising.  Who do you think is smarter?

I don't disagree with much of what you say.  Now, tell me, which of our presidents ever stood up to China?  Which of them thought and think that a powerful China is a good thing?  Who made deals that advantaged China?  Who exempted them from things like the climate accord limitations?

Your COVID comment made me laugh.  The country that lied to us about COVID in the first place is to be trusted in listing their infection and death rate?  You typed that before you thought about it, I'm sure. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2020, 05:30:48 pm »
Does anyone else find it strange that there appears to be a new office now called "The Office of the President Elect".  As far as I know this office does not exist and no one has ever been elected to that office.  I'm also confused how many people don't know that the election hasn't taken place yet.  That will be December 14.  Then the decision for President of the United States (which is a real office) will be decided and the winner of that election will still not hold "The Office of the President Elect" nor will the hold the office of President until January the 20th.
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2020, 05:50:56 pm »
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That will be December 14.

Not only that, we have states that have not certified their elections yet and at least one that is doing a recount.  PA has narrowed to the point that a recount is almost certainly going to be called for.  Given the hinky things reported from that state, there is no way to know how it will turn out.
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2020, 07:37:15 pm »
The process will play out according to the law and THEN it will be over...
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2020, 08:40:20 am »
Quote from: Kathyp on November 12, 2020, 11:32:42 am
You typed that before you thought about it, I'm sure.
No I didn't.  China has leaks.  One of the reasons they are taking over Hong Kong. 
No president has had the power to put China at bay on the economic front without taking on corporate america.  It will require a socialist program that taxes the heck out of goods produced in China for american companies.  It is never going to happen as long as corporate america can buy politicians and influence the laws of this country.  The american people are partly to blame.  Before all was lost they could have bought american but they didn't.  Remember when Walmart was made in America and then they switched?  Remember when Donny was going to clear out the swamp and then he joined in?
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2020, 08:59:21 am »
Quote from: Michael Bush on November 12, 2020, 05:30:48 pm
Does anyone else find it strange that there appears to be a new office now called "The Office of the President Elect".
It has existed for every elected president that has replaced one.  Once the election is certified office spaces will be provided by the tax payer.  In elections that have been called by AP the opponent congratulates the winner and there is a smooth transition.  This protects the country during the transition.  Again Trump thinking only of himself and doesn't give a rats A about anyone else refuses to cooperate.
BTW Wally where are all those people in Europe that you said love Trump and why are our Allies dancing in the streets?
All other presidents cooperated during a recount.  Trump is the only cry baby to put the country at risk.  This could hurt the run off for the two senate positions in GA.  It certainly isn't going to help so cry baby cry.
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2020, 09:28:54 am »
"Again Trump thinking only of himself and doesn't give a rats A about anyone else refuses to cooperate.""

Did you mean to type Gore?
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2020, 11:46:43 am »
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BTW Wally where are all those people in Europe that you said love Trump and why are our Allies dancing in the streets?

Because they can go back to depending on us for security and not paying what they owe NATO.  They can make trade deals with us that advantage them.
China is very happy also.  They even tweeted about it.  Iran is ecstatic.  The UN and the global warming crowd are happy.  They were depending on the US dollars for their redistribution plans to "help" developing countries...like China and India, two of the biggest polluters on the planet.

So yes, in their eyes, it's a good thing for them. 

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2020, 02:05:21 pm »
Thank You, Kathy. He knows that. He just likes to troll. :wink:
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Re: Dirtier than hog lot dirt
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2020, 06:18:06 pm »
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After letting millions get sick and thousands die, the democrats st Pfizer and BioNTech announce the vaccine has been proven and is ready for marketing this month.
Why do you need a vaccine? Its harmless, it does not affect anyone, its almost gone, its going to go away with warm weather, its nothing to fear,  It?s a democratic hoax, nobody is going to mention it 3 days after the election.
Now it hurts people? Now it is a concern? Liberal media lies!
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2020, 06:21:15 pm »
>It has existed for every elected president that has replaced one.

I have read the constitution.  There is no "office of the president elect".  There is the President, the Vice President, there are Representatives, and Senators, and Supreme Court Justices... but no "President Elect".
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2020, 06:39:44 pm »
I think even at Walmart they give the new guy a little lead in time. But I guess that being president should be pretty easy to pick up on.
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2020, 08:24:55 pm »
'Why do you need a vaccine? Its harmless,"" ETC.
 
Name one politician that has died from it. It is about like any other strain of flu. 98% plus survival rate. Why stretch it into the outer universe other than to increase your own power?

"I think even at Walmart they give the new guy a little lead in time. But I guess that being president should be pretty easy to pick up on.""

Absolutely, when you have dementia and your handlers have everything ready before you speak.
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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2020, 12:28:13 am »
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I think even at Walmart they give the new guy a little lead in time. But I guess that being president should be pretty easy to pick up on.

As they did with Trump?
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2020, 12:31:07 am »
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Once the election is certified office spaces will be provided by the tax payer. 

But it has not been certified.  There are a good number of states that have not certified their state elections.  In fact, the election of the president has not even taken place yet.

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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2020, 12:32:01 am »
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Why do you need a vaccine? Its harmless, it does not affect anyone, its almost gone, its going to go away with warm weather, its nothing to fear,  It?s a democratic hoax, nobody is going to mention it 3 days after the election.

Lol.  where do you get your info?  I can guess...
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They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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