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Which set do you think is more valuable for bee keepers?

1Pcs Honey Uncapping Fork, 1Pcs Frame Grip, 2Pcs J Hook [url]https://www.amazon.com/Ziqi-Uncapping-Beekeeper-Beekeeping-Supplies/dp/B0892KC11H/ref=sr_1_24?dchild=1&m=A7RV4IY8BO3K1&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1597223908&s=merchant-items
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Hive Scrapers Set, Stainless Steel Bee Hive Tool [url]https://www.amazon.com/NA-Multifunctional-Stainless-Beekeeping-Beekeepers/dp/B089GVFP6W/ref=sr_1_20?dchild=1&m=A7RV4IY8BO3K1&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1597223908&s=merchant-items&
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2020, 01:51:01 pm »
What I said on your other thread is of course applicable here.  I would add that a frame grip is a very optional piece of equipment.  It can be handy at times, but it is by no means required.  An uncapping fork is something you need for certain tasks (like uncapping drones or extracting with an extractor) but it's not required for something like a general inspection.  So the value of these products depends on what you personally are trying to do. 
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2020, 03:19:49 pm »
Neither.
I have all of those tools. I hardly use any of them. I will use the red handle hive tool when I cannot find a standard one. They are handy when you have a really stuck frame. But that is not too often. I have almost dropped and dropped a few frames with the grabber so now I don?t use it. The ones with the wood are just fancy wood handled hive tools.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2020, 06:30:02 pm »
I think the frame grabber is a handy tool but I don't use it for carrying frames.  I use it when the frame is stuck to the frame below.  You can work the frame back and forth to break off the burr comb between frames without hurting bees.  It is not the first tool you should get because if you are new you are probably in the hive more often and not having stuck frames between boxes.  I have yet to find a need for any of the fancy hive tools.  The standard tool is more than adequate.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2020, 07:59:19 am »
Just the red handled hive 5ool. It is all I use, and I like it very much.
I would avoid the wood handled ones. With the honey and propolis, they will be messy and hard to clean.

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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2020, 08:58:07 am »

I would avoid the wood handled ones. With the honey and propolis, they will be messy and hard to clean.
Bob that is more of a problem if you wear gloves.  If you clip a dry wash cloth to your belt loop you can keep your finger tips fairly clean.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2020, 09:04:05 am »
I use the standard or red handle tool. I have several or each and grab the first one I come to. The frame grabber is cumbersome, but works if you want to spend the time. The scratcher will be used at "some" extraction times. I've never used one in over 40 years of beekeeping. AS someone saud, the wood habdle is jiust to collevt sticky and dirt.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2020, 01:49:47 pm »
I have three standard hive tools, no J hooks and no wood. I drop them all over the place so I have two all the time in the bee yard.

I have a frame grabber but it?s my least favorite yard tool and I only use when a particularly heavy frame is stuck.

That particular uncapped is handy but I have a harmony farms uncapped now and I have an older standard uncapping fork to get the couple of low spots that might get missed once in awhile.


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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2020, 11:14:03 pm »
Greetings, Acebird.
I was talkimg about the tool getting gunky.
I stopped wearing gloves since working with you all at BeeFest, and I use the orange grit hand cleaner from the auto parts store for my hands.. It does a great job. But, my red hive tool gets gunked up with propolis, and I end up scraping  it clean with a knife from time to time. I was thinking that tools with wooden handles attached would be harder to scrape and keep clean. Lots of angles and corners.

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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2020, 05:40:43 pm »
I think the frame grabber is a handy tool but I don't use it for carrying frames.  I use it when the frame is stuck to the frame below.

I agree Ace, though I seldom use mine anymore.  The handiest tool that I have found after using all the above, including a 5 way paint scraper, is an antique paper thin, carbon steel, wood blade, butcher knife. It can easily separate the most glued together boxes without damaging the wood in the corners. I also use the tip for easy separating and pulling frames, even the most Propolized, stuck together frames. I have not seen or found a modern butcher knife that is this Thin. I would hate to lose it. Of corse as with any hive tool, we must be careful not to fall on it.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2020, 06:19:25 pm »
I was thinking that tools with wooden handles attached would be harder to scrape and keep clean. Lots of angles and corners.
Don't scrape it dip the handle in hot wax.  Wax isn't sticky.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2020, 06:21:48 pm »

I agree Ace, though I seldom use mine anymore.
I very seldom used mine too but when I needed it it was handy to have.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2020, 10:19:02 pm »

I agree Ace, though I seldom use mine anymore.
I very seldom used mine too but when I needed it it was handy to have.

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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2020, 10:23:30 pm »

The wood handle is no problem for me either. I do not give it a second thought.
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Re: Which set will you get?
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2020, 11:53:25 pm »
>With the honey and propolis, they will be messy and hard to clean.

Bob if you will rinse the honey off, then use just a little rubbing alcohol after use, the described will come right off.
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