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Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« on: August 02, 2020, 10:46:34 pm »
Bought one of these this afternoon (used, obviously). Seems in great shape though I plan to completely disassemble, clean, and re-lube. Serial number CH01xx. Does anyone here know where I may find an owner's manual/parts drawing? Thanks. -James
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2020, 08:43:35 am »
Can't even find what it looks like.  Is this a product of Hubbard Apiaries?
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2020, 01:01:30 pm »
Yes.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2020, 11:15:49 am »
Tried to upload pics of the extractor with no luck. Photobucket was useless, as well. (Haven't used that account in years.) So, I created a Flickr account. Let's see if this works.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/190032218@N06/EHAz35

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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2020, 12:53:13 pm »
Since we do not have an account with this company, we cannot see your pictures.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2020, 09:11:33 pm »
Since we do not have an account with this company, we cannot see your pictures.
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Thanks, Jim. Will post a new link. -james
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2020, 09:12:00 pm »
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2020, 11:30:34 pm »
That looks real nice.  How many frames can it handle?
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2020, 09:07:12 am »
24 Deeps, 44 Mediums/Shallows (I think). There is just no information about this machine on the internet. I've disassembled and cleaned it and am now putting it back together but I prefer to do such things with the assistance of a manual and drawings. It has two flange bearings - Browning FB250. The one at the bottom seemed totally rusted and was very difficult to get off the stainless spindle. I've purchased a replacement that is  made of stainless steel and cleaned up the top bearing and replaced the grease with food grade grease. I'd really like to get into the motor and check the brushes but that will have to wait. -james
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2020, 08:15:00 am »
Wow, 44 mediums. Sounds like you know what you are doing. If the motor is starting up every time, I would not worry about it. The 6 volt starter on my 12 volt Ford tractor fowls up a lot. I don?t rebuild it until it starts having trouble starting.
If it holds 24 deeps, then it probably holds 48 mediums. It is usually double.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2020, 08:35:22 am »
I've purchased a replacement that is  made of stainless steel
James, where did you find that and at what cost?
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2020, 11:00:18 am »
Wow, 44 mediums. Sounds like you know what you are doing. If the motor is starting up every time, I would not worry about it. The 6 volt starter on my 12 volt Ford tractor fowls up a lot. I don?t rebuild it until it starts having trouble starting.
If it holds 24 deeps, then it probably holds 48 mediums. It is usually double.
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Thanks. I got the counts from the numbers of slots. I really need to load it up with empty frames to verify.

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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2020, 11:04:54 am »
I've purchased a replacement that is  made of stainless steel
James, where did you find that and at what cost?

Acebird: eBay. I found a seller of surplus equipment that sells at half price, though the "regular" price they had listed was already about half what I'd found elsewhere. It was certainly already half of MSRP. So, they  had it at about a 4th MSRP. Started to hit "Buy Now" then noticed they had a "Make an offer" option. So I offered 25 and they accepted almost immediately. I've found that the actual bearing insert can be purchased in stainless steel by itself, as well. Those are much more common but still more than what I paid for the entire ss flange bearing with food-grade grease.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2020, 11:08:30 am »
Hard to tell from the picture but it looks like at least 11 spaces in between each cross member which should be large enough for at least 44 frames? Your rig looks like a good piece of equipment. If you need parts you should always be able to buy bearings, motors etc from a local supplier, at least online even if not the original brand. From the pictures, I like it.
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2020, 11:10:44 am »
$2,500.00 ?
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2020, 06:03:07 pm »
If you need parts you should always be able to buy bearings,
Extractors turn so slow I doubt if you would wear a flange bearing out in 10 generations.  I have seen nickel plated flange bearing but never a stainless steel one.  They have to be crazy expensive.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2020, 10:26:03 pm »
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2020, 08:29:45 am »
I know they exist.  I just haven't seen one in person.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2020, 09:52:32 am »
I know they exist.  I just haven't seen one in person.

I would have thought that all extractors would have stainless bearings in order to be food-grade.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2020, 02:24:49 pm »
Not so.
My father in law had an old galvanized tank extractor that had a lot of rust on it, inside and out. My sister in law still uses it.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2020, 02:28:36 pm »
$2,500.00 ?

Is that an offer? LOL



No I was considering your post and was thinking, surely he does not mean $25.00 dollars. 😊 or did you? 😊




I've purchased a replacement that is  made of stainless steel
James, where did you find that and at what cost?

Acebird: eBay. I found a seller of surplus equipment that sells at half price, though the "regular" price they had listed was already about half what I'd found elsewhere. It was certainly already half of MSRP. So, they  had it at about a 4th MSRP. Started to hit "Buy Now" then noticed they had a "Make an offer" option. So I offered 25 and they accepted almost immediately. I've found that the actual bearing insert can be purchased in stainless steel by itself, as well. Those are much more common but still more than what I paid for the entire ss flange bearing with food-grade grease.

For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2020, 03:04:58 pm »
Ben,
The $25 was for the bearing.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2020, 09:58:36 pm »
Ben,
The $25 was for the bearing.
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Thanks Jim it went totally over my head, I was not reading closely enough.  :shocked:  :grin:

 
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2020, 04:20:48 pm »
Posted a video to the facebook page.
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2020, 06:15:09 pm »
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Re: Extractor: Hubbard Apiaries Model 2401
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2020, 06:16:02 pm »
Not so.
My father in law had an old galvanized tank extractor that had a lot of rust on it, inside and out. My sister in law still uses it.
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 :shocked:  I have an old galvanized extractor but have never used it. Thought about camcoating it and using it but figured it wouldn't be worth the trouble as it only holds two frames in baskets that have to be flipped. Likely worth more as a collector item. The Hubbard 2401 is stainless.
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