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« on: May 17, 2020, 04:07:21 pm »
This is my first attempt with bees. The girls love working on this with me, and they have become my hive inspection photographers.
I started out with a couple hive kits and we built them and painted.
I made a tool box out of some scraps I had around.










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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2020, 04:24:09 pm »
Welcome, always good to participate with the kids.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2020, 04:43:15 pm »
I got two nucs and put them in the new boxes and marked the queens so I can pick them out.






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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2020, 04:46:48 pm »
Both hives have feeders on them to help get established. After about two weeks I added a new medium to one hive. That queen is booming.










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Re: New Bees
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2020, 05:08:53 pm »
Beautiful

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2020, 05:26:10 pm »
Beautiful ladies, OH!, and nice bees, too.  :wink:

Lounge chair is too far away. Should be the 6 feet social distance.  :smile:

Welcome, good beginning posts. Hope to see many more.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2020, 05:39:11 pm »
Entrance reducers, hives different colors, feeding, beautiful marked queen,,,your a newbie????  You did everything correct, very good.

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2020, 06:26:05 pm »
Thanks all.
I will keep posting my progress and questions here.
Let me know if you see something I need to address.


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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2020, 06:26:39 pm »
Welcome to Beemaster.
Another §¤«£¿æ. 😁
Looks like you are off to a great start.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2020, 06:35:08 pm »
Beautiful hives!  Your girls did such a great job!  :happy:
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2020, 11:27:38 pm »
Welcome. Looking good.

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2020, 11:37:32 pm »
I made a tool to help get the eyelets in the frames. It is just a wooden drawer pull, roll pin and a nail. 






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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2020, 01:55:56 am »
Fantastic!  I'm studying this year and hope to follow in your footsteps next spring.  Keep the photos coming.

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2020, 10:15:40 am »
I made a tool to help get the eyelets in the frames

Looks like we are going to learn a lot from you, welcome

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2020, 10:16:31 am »
Surely not. Maybe from my mistakes.


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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2020, 11:24:10 am »
welcome  :happy:

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2020, 11:29:13 am »
Surely not. Maybe from my mistakes.

Ha! better your's than our's . . . mistakes are the best teachers

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2020, 04:44:44 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2020, 05:09:39 pm »
Sorry, I?m having technical difficulties. I guess I can?t embed videos here.


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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2020, 06:34:50 pm »
I think you have to have around 30 posts, then it will be turned on for you.
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2020, 06:56:56 pm »
Ok. Thanks.


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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2020, 06:57:26 pm »
I?ll get there.


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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2020, 06:57:39 pm »
One day.


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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2020, 10:00:33 pm »
Awesome!

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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2020, 11:49:52 pm »
The videos are working for me now.  Really neat!
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2020, 05:30:44 am »
Hello!  Welcome aboard.
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2020, 11:37:38 pm »
Love seeing the kids along for the bee ride. I hope they get the bee bug too. Welcome to the forum.

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2020, 12:09:05 am »
Thanks to all.


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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2020, 08:05:26 pm »
I?ve got some beetle traps coming and was planning on getting some formic pro unless there are strong objections. The nucs were fumed the day before I picked them up a few weeks ago now.


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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2020, 11:11:52 pm »
How and or whether to treat for mites is a hotly debated topic.

One of the first steps you may want to take before any treatment, is inspecting whether or not you even have a Varroa mite problem. 

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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2020, 08:15:42 am »
How and or whether to treat for mites is a hotly debated topic.

One of the first steps you may want to take before any treatment, is inspecting whether or not you even have a Varroa mite problem.
They were fumed a couple weeks ago, so I?m sure they have been knocked back. I?ve only seen one mite out of two hive inspections. I?ve got good frames of worker brood, and very few spots with drone cells right now.
It?s not so much for right now, but to have on hand for later. I?ve got the alcohol shaker, but wasn?t planning to check them yet.
My style is going to lean more towards the natural or wholistic style of doing about anything I do, I assume this will be the same. I haven?t done a ton of reading on the types of treatments, but I want to stay away from things that you can?t have near honey. It starts sounding bad if you have too many restrictions.

Some of the precautions of the formic pro are off putting as well.


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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2020, 09:01:14 am »
im a new almost bee 1year as of memorial weekend.i see woods with probable wildlife. if there are skunks about they will eat bees. the prevention is to raise  the hives high enough that the skunk has to stand up in order to reach the entrance.
my one hive swarmed 3 times i managed to catch 2 of them and now they are 3. :happy:

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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2020, 03:25:53 pm »
My plans were to go one more block and a 4x4 higher.
We have all the normal critters. Skunks, opossums, coons, foxes and coyotes. 


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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2020, 03:09:47 pm »
How and or whether to treat for mites is a hotly debated topic.

One of the first steps you may want to take before any treatment, is inspecting whether or not you even have a Varroa mite problem.

Is there another method without chemicals other than breaking brood cycles? That?s the only one I know of.


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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2020, 04:41:31 pm »
""Is there another method without chemicals other than breaking brood cycles? That?s the only one I know of.""

Yes, it's called buying bees each year.  Sorry, but that is about the only alternative. Your neighbors won't like that idea too well, either, as  your place becomes a varroa breeding ground and their robber bees take them home when they clean out your deadouts. Brood breaks help, but are not enough to keep the hive alive over the years..


 
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2020, 04:57:04 pm »
There?s a treatment that uses heat, called mighty mite.  A gentleman in the next town over says it?s great and keeps his hives going.  Costs  +/-  $300.

Concept is, it cooks the mites but the bees live.  Basically like pasturization.  But that level of heat also means good enzymes in the honey are eradicated. 

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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2020, 05:35:33 pm »
Does elevation, such as a shed roof or being placed over a concrete slab help beetles or mites,


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« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2020, 06:23:45 pm »
Full sunlight helps beetles, but not the height.
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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2020, 11:46:25 pm »
Question about entrance reducers and upper entrances.

I have screen bottoms with bottom boards slid in from the back. There is a gap in the back between the bottom board and the screen.

What is the purpose of pulling the entrance reducer or removing a mouse guard if you have ventilation in the back or can trim the bottom board to expose a little more screen? Does the 2 inch entrance ever get too crowded to the point that they can?t deal with it? With the vent in the back and the option to trim the bottom board to expose more screen, why a 3/4 inch entrance when everything says protect your entrance?


If I need top ventilation can I just lay a penny on each corner of the top box and use the telescoping cover? Will the fill that gap?
 


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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2020, 06:50:25 am »
First, the slide in board should only be in the hive during a mite check. It will gather droppings and raise wax moths by the hundreds.

Second, entrance reducers are not for ventilation. They are to keep the entrance large enough for the foragers to come and go without bumping each other and small enough for the guards to keep the robbers at bay. If they are crowded going in and out, open to the next size opening.
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2020, 11:47:07 am »
I get that the reducer is not for ventilation. I guess I?m just asking, why is the entrance so tall when it only needs to be 3/8? Then just lay a 10, 12, or 14 inch reducer across. The only reason I?ve found for the 3/4 inch tall entrance is for ventilation, but there is plenty of other areas to get ventilation


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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2020, 11:52:42 am »
In a 60,000 bee hive, in a full honey flow, how many foragers are trying to get in and out at any given moment? I use solid bottom reversible boards. with 3/8 in winter and 3/4 in summer, with reducer during non-flow times.
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2020, 11:54:46 am »
I use 3/4 strips on all my hive bottom rest, not so much for ventilation but for convenience. I have never had any problem with this in any way. I use the left over pieces from Advantech or Legacy Gorilla Glue board that I have cut for my tops and bottoms.