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Split today - guidance?
« on: May 02, 2020, 02:43:47 pm »
Hey all,

I?ve never done a split where I intended to raise a new queen before, so just looking for some reassurance.

We have a strong flow, there are drones, and I have a very strong hive that I installed from a package onto drawn comb over a month ago. 

Today I split that hive, taking three frames of brood and larvae of various stages and two frames of honey/pollen combos. I put them in a 5 frame nuc. 

From what I?m reading, I should check for queen cells on Tuesday of this coming week?

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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2020, 04:24:02 pm »
Were you splitting to prevent swarming or just to make an extra hive?  Tuesday seems a little soon to me, I usually wait about a week. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2020, 04:59:22 pm »
Just to make another hive.  Also the parent hive is pretty calm and I?d like to encourage those genetics.

I should also add that it?s swarm season here based on the local beek association posts on facebook
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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2020, 08:27:56 pm »
Just to make another hive.  Also the parent hive is pretty calm and I?d like to encourage those genetics.

I should also add that it?s swarm season here based on the local beek association posts on facebook
I ask because if you are trying to prevent swarming, you would want to move the mother queen.  (Ask me how I found that out.   :wink:)  If you are just trying to get another hive though, it shouldn't matter. 
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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2020, 08:48:56 pm »
Yes! Luckily no signs of swarming. Plenty of frames of brood, no swarm cells, queen is laying a nice solid pattern.


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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2020, 09:26:32 am »
I have a very strong hive that I installed from a package onto drawn comb over a month ago. 
In no way would I consider a package install a very strong hive after a couple months.  I am not saying you can't take a split off from it and be successful.  If you provided 3 day old larvae for the split there will be queen cells.  No need to check.  In about a month you will need to check for eggs.  That is about all that is required.
What you could do in a week is add another frame of young larvae if you are not sure the larvae you provided was young enough to begin with.  Doesn't matter where you put it.  I would avoid the frame where you put the first young larvae because you might wreck a queen cell.
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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2020, 09:17:45 pm »
Hi took a peek on Tuesday because I couldn?t help myself. There are queen cells!


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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2020, 10:14:14 pm »
Hi took a peek on Tuesday because I couldn?t help myself. There are queen cells!


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Hooray!  Now be sure to wait 3 weeks before checking again; 1 week for the cell to hatch, 1 week for the queen to mate, and 1 week for her to start laying. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2020, 10:14:49 pm »
Definitely. I don?t plan to look again until June!


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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2020, 02:07:11 pm »
I consider a hive strong enough to split when it has two ten frame deeps or four eight frame mediums full of bees and drawn comb that is full of honey, pollen, or brood.  Any less is not really strong enough for the split to build up quickly...

Make sure when you do a split you don't let them run out of room.  Even the queenless side will need room as all of the emerging bees will get recruited to forage and they will need room for the honey.
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Re: Split today - guidance?
« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:59:31 pm »
UPDATE - they did it!


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