Welcome, Guest

Author Topic: Gorilla Glue Problem  (Read 680 times)

Offline FatherMichael

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 339
  • Gender: Male
Gorilla Glue Problem
« on: February 24, 2020, 10:09:39 pm »
Thought I'd try some polyurethane glue for a bait hive today.

Not sure I like it.  It foams out onto surfaces that I want to stain.  The hive will sit in the yard of a friend with a known bee tree nearby; so, I want it to look nice for their sake.

How do you get rid of that foaming glue residue?

Offline sawdstmakr

  • Global Moderator
  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 11243
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2020, 06:20:25 am »
Father,
The trick to dealing with this is to let the glue dry enough that it isn?t a liquid any more but not fully hardened. At this point you can easily scrape it off. I use a box blade laid flat against the wood to cut it cleanly off, usually I cut from both sides. Then I turn the blade up vertically and scrape it sideways to remove the remaining glue.
Once it has hardened, you can cut it but it is a lot harder to do.
Good luck.
Jim Altmiller

Offline FatherMichael

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 339
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2020, 08:08:07 am »
Father,
The trick to dealing with this is to let the glue dry enough that it isn?t a liquid any more but not fully hardened. At this point you can easily scrape it off. I use a box blade laid flat against the wood to cut it cleanly off, usually I cut from both sides. Then I turn the blade up vertically and scrape it sideways to remove the remaining glue.
Once it has hardened, you can cut it but it is a lot harder to do.
Good luck.
Jim Altmiller

Thanks, Jim!

Offline Kathyp

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 17427
  • Gender: Female
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2020, 12:46:42 pm »
The other thing about it is to buy small bottles or at least no more than you think you will use quickly.  It tends to harden in the bottle.  To delay that, squeeze all the air out before you cap it. 

I love the stuff, but it has its negatives!
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Offline FatherMichael

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 339
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2020, 01:19:54 pm »
The other thing about it is to buy small bottles or at least no more than you think you will use quickly.  It tends to harden in the bottle.  To delay that, squeeze all the air out before you cap it. 

I love the stuff, but it has its negatives!

Thanks, Katy.

Had to clean it up with a Dremel before staining.

Now to get it off my hands!

Offline Bob Wilson

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 489
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 03:39:18 pm »
Michael. I was correcting some mistakes on my first hive I built last night, and I used Titebond III. I always do. It seems to me that there would be fewer chemicals introduced into the hive than with Gorilla Glue. Why use Gorilla? Is it that much better at joining strength and water repellancy? I have both.

Offline Kathyp

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 17427
  • Gender: Female
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2020, 03:46:45 pm »
Quote
Why use Gorilla? Is it that much better at joining strength and water repellancy?

I use it because it does expand and fill cracks.  I have an awful problem with yellowjackets here and they will get through any little crack.  + I just like to watch it work.   :grin:
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Offline FatherMichael

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 339
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2020, 04:13:16 pm »
Michael. I was correcting some mistakes on my first hive I built last night, and I used Titebond III. I always do. It seems to me that there would be fewer chemicals introduced into the hive than with Gorilla Glue. Why use Gorilla? Is it that much better at joining strength and water repellancy? I have both.

I like to use cedar and the expanding quality of the polyurethane glue attracted me.  I've never used it before.

The way it sticks to my hands makes me think it's pretty good ...

If I learn how to use it.

Offline paus

  • Field Bee
  • ***
  • Posts: 532
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2020, 10:27:02 pm »
I have never seen a head to head test of waterproof or resistant glues, but this I know 1. wood ain't perfect therefore cracks, 2. I ain't perfect, regardless of what my wife says, so there are imperfect cuts therefore cracks and on and on.  Gorilla glue fills cracks better, fact, it is messy, fact, and on and on.  Titebond or Gorilla does the job much better than the glues I first used in woodworking attempts in the forties.  So I use Gorilla for some joints and Titebond on most of my glue joints.  Price may be a consideration but It is not necessary to choose one or the other, there is a niche where one is better than the other one.

Offline Dustymunky

  • New Bee
  • *
  • Posts: 46
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2020, 12:17:17 am »
Im pretty OCD but if the crack isnt perfectly filled the bees will propolize it. Better than glue!

Online Ben Framed

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 4263
  • North Mississippi
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2020, 11:27:26 pm »
I have only used titebond. There is or was a product sold at Home Depot that was supposed to be similar to Advantech, which boasted that gorilla glue was their claim to fame.  lol 
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Offline Bob Wilson

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 489
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2020, 08:18:26 am »
I checked last week. Our Home Depot could order Advantech boards 4x8 sheets and I could pick up locally. $33 a sheet with a "resin" binding it together.

Offline FatherMichael

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 339
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2020, 08:48:14 pm »
Used Titebond III today to build a slotted rack for Mary's hive.

Think I've found a winner!

Online Ben Framed

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 4263
  • North Mississippi
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2020, 10:04:58 pm »
Brother Michael, I am glad that you are happy with titebond. I have developed a practice that may be of interest to you as well. When I build my boxes I use titebond as a calk. What I do is glue the edges before nailing together. Then after assembling the boxes together, I take it a step further by dabbing titebond on the edges of the exposed cut edges of the boxes and joints, using titebond in the place of calk, letting it completely dry, then paint these ends.
Phillip Hall




                                                     .



.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2020, 02:13:18 am by Ben Framed »
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Online Ben Framed

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 4263
  • North Mississippi
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2020, 07:11:05 am »
I have only used titebond. There is or was a product sold at Home Depot that was supposed to be similar to Advantech, which boasted that gorilla glue was their claim to fame.  lol 

I checked last week. Our Home Depot could order Advantech boards 4x8 sheets and I could pick up locally. $33 a sheet with a "resin" binding it together.

Bob you are fortunate that your Home Depot sells Advantech. The last time that I checked, my local Home Depot does not. Which is a pity because Home Depot is close to me. They do however sell a competitor of Advantech called Legacy which boast a similar warranty also boasting the use of Gorilla Glue as the bonding agent. The last Advantech that I purchased was from Lowes. 33 per sheet.

 Legacy-LP-23-32-in...
Legacy LP 23/32 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. T&G OSB Panel-41499 - The Home Depot
Oriented Strand Board - OSB. ... For the Toughest Sub-Flooring jobs on the planet LP Legacy sub-flooring uses Gorilla Glue Technology for one of the industry's strongest, stiffest sub-floors. ... The resins used to make LP Legacy sub-flooring bond wood strands at the molecular level

Phillip Hall





                                                                           

 
« Last Edit: March 04, 2020, 08:20:19 am by Ben Framed »
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Offline FatherMichael

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 339
  • Gender: Male
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2020, 03:23:18 pm »
Brother Michael, I am glad that you are happy with titebond. I have developed a practice that may be of interest to you as well. When I build my boxes I use titebond as a calk. What I do is glue the edges before nailing together. Then after assembling the boxes together, I take it a step further by dabbing titebond on the edges of the exposed cut edges of the boxes and joints, using titebond in the place of calk, letting it completely dry, then paint these ends.
Phillip Hall

Sounds like a good strategy, Phillip.

Have two more hives to build and will use that method.

Online Ben Framed

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 4263
  • North Mississippi
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2020, 10:47:02 pm »

"Sounds like a good strategy, Phillip.Have two more hives to build and will use that method."

I am glad to share. I believe this will help our wood-ware last longer. 
Phillip Hall




For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Online Ben Framed

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 4263
  • North Mississippi
Re: Gorilla Glue Problem
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2020, 10:53:22 pm »
An update to reply 14 referring to Legacy Gorilla Glue board sold at Home Depot. I have said before last season that I intend to purchase a few sheets of this and use it as a comparison to the Advantech.  That time of purchase will be soon as I have only one sheet of Advantech left.  🙂 

LP 23/32 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. T&G OSB Panel
4.6 out of 5
(26) Write a Review
Questions & Answers (14)
Super-tough moisture-resistant premium sub-flooring
Stiffest and one of the strongest
Covered until its covered no-sand warranty $30.98

This board has a picture of the gorilla painted of the board along with the words, Gorilla Glue Technology. I " hope" it is good stuff lol.

Phillip Hall

« Last Edit: March 07, 2020, 05:51:59 am by Ben Framed »
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.