That is all I use-harbor freight, cheap and large or XL. The only time I get stung is at the wrist, just above the glove. The propolis is a pain, especially in springtime (when it is gooy). Yeah, they tear, finish what your doing and pull one over the top. Don?t try to switch them or your sweaty hands makes it hard to pull on the next one. If I do get a rare sting through it you can get ahold of the glove next to the stinger and lifting the glove, lifts the stinger out.