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Offline Ben Framed

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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2020, 11:23:04 pm »
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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2020, 09:55:03 am »
Yes, there will be a world wide ripple effect from the virus.  China is shutting down manufacturing in several areas due to the quarantine.  South Korea has already stopped production of some autos due to a shortage of Chinese parts.  Supply of rare earth materials may be an issue very soon.

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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2020, 11:39:01 am »
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Kathy, I have seen videos there of people simply falling out shaking violently, in the streets, in offices, and hospitals etc. I do not know if these are real or even accurate. Have you seen similar?

I have, but nothing like that from outside China.  We can't verify what's coming from inside.

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Yes, there will be a world wide ripple effect from the virus.  China is shutting down manufacturing in several areas due to the quarantine.  South Korea has already stopped production of some autos due to a shortage of Chinese parts.  Supply of rare earth materials may be an issue very soon.

At this moment I think any trade issues will be a blip.  If this gets into other populations that are important to trade, and does as it has done in China, it could be a problem.  India, Vietnam, etc. These are countries with dense populations and a questionable ability to deal with a massive outbreak. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2020, 06:11:46 pm »
I just ordered Apple rechargeable batteries.Most sites are sold out and have no expected date to restock.
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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2020, 07:38:34 pm »
I hear Apple is moving a bunch of its stuff to Vietnam. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2020, 12:44:57 pm »
The move by apple to Vietnam was reported in June last year and was reported as a work around to the tariffs

More importantly the paper that was pre-released has been withdrawn by the authors because the scientific community called it out as junk.

Indian researchers find artifacts of HIV in the Wuhan virus
The paper is not peer reviewed but I suppose it will be quickly.


https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2




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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2020, 06:57:41 pm »
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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2020, 12:10:38 am »
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I suppose it's time to call in the Marines!

Pandemic plans exist along with plans for other disasters.  The military has its own issues because of deployments.  I don't think we are going to get that far in the US, but it is possible that the military will have to implement some of its plans, especially in other countries. 

Everything depends on how this virus behaves going forward.  Right now it appears to be fairly highly contagious, but not particularly deadly.  A high contagion rate with a lot of quarantines and hospitalizations is disruptive, but if the recovery rate continues to be high, that's a short term problem.  If it mutates and becomes more serious, or if people panic and overwhelm and/or abandon the system, that's when things get fun. 

They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2020, 03:24:35 pm »
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/17/health/evacuated-passengers-test-positive-coronavirus/index.html

This might be an issue.  There seem to be a lot of positives with the new test and the patients are asymptomatic.  They have not nailed down the point at which a positive person is able to spread the virus.  Even more of a problem comes if patients never become symptomatic and are still able to spread the disease. In that case, there is no contact tracing until it is way too late to corral all the contacts. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2020, 03:27:36 pm »
If any of you guys follow Michael Yon on FB or his site he's doing good updates from Thailand and other places in that area.  Those countries are worth watching because a lot of people from China escaped and went to Thailand, Singapore, etc. before the gates in China slammed shut. 

We can get a good indicator of spread from what's happening in those other countries. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
Alexis de Tocqueville