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Offline CoolBees

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New Years Queens
« on: January 11, 2020, 04:22:15 pm »
Quick history: in a late December inspection I found a hive that was queenless and had many QC's on several frames.

I saw myself, as having only 2 options: combine this hive with another to get it thru the remaining "winter", or experiment to see if Queens could be raised here in Dec/Jan. I decided to experiment.

On Dec 23rd I split 1 frame with QC's from this hive, over to a Nuc, with no bees. I then added Nurse Bees and honey/pollen Stores from a much stronger hive hoping to give the newly formed Nuc as good a chance as possible.

I left all bees and remaining QC's in the original hive. My goal: double the [slim] chances of success.

Today - I've just come back inside from inspecting both hives.

The results: The original hive - I saw 1.5 frames of eggs newly, and properly, laid eggs. Since I started the inspection from the outside edge, I did not see the queen, and did not want to proceed further. I closed up the hive.

The Nuc: I found a new and beautiful Queen on the first outside frame. She was quite calm. There were eggs, and brood in all stages on that frame - suggesting the hive has been queenright for more than 10 days. I closed up the hive and did not proceed further.

Final score: 2 for 2 queenright!

Now, I can't imagine that either queen is very well bred due to the limited amount of drones currently, and I expect both [most likely] to need requeening within the year. But - now both hives will have the ability to take advantage of the upcoming flow in the short view - so I'm plus-2 instead of minus-1 on hives. I am both intrigued and happy - thought I'd share this info with all of you.  :smile:

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Re: New Years Queens
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2020, 09:46:18 am »
Cool,
Sounds like you must have drones.
Looking forward to see your updates.
Jim Altmiller

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Re: New Years Queens
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2020, 02:16:48 pm »
Awesome Alan. Congratulations!!!   What was your mid day temperatures through this (on average) ? 

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Re: New Years Queens
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2020, 02:58:34 pm »
Most days hovered between 54 & 61 degree (highs) and generally overcast. There was one day during the mating cycle that got to 65 and sunny, as well as some sunny periods on other days. Basically it was very marginal for mating - limited drone availability & inclement weather. Most hives have 50 or less drones right now.

I had resigned myself to accepting that it wasn't going to work. But the girls found a way.
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Re: New Years Queens
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2020, 03:46:32 pm »
Most days hovered between 54 & 61 degree (highs) and generally overcast. There was one day during the mating cycle that got to 65 and sunny, as well as some sunny periods on other days. Basically it was very marginal for mating - limited drone availability & inclement weather. Most hives have 50 or less drones right now.

I had resigned myself to accepting that it wasn't going to work. But the girls found a way.

Thanks Alan
« Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 11:48:08 pm by Ben Framed »

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Re: New Years Queens
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2020, 06:33:52 pm »
Mr. Cool, you have mastered beekeeping.  You were put to the test, one not answered in the books but you used your knowledge of bees and came out like a true knowledgeable beekeeper, that can make on the spot decisions with the best possible outcome for both you and bees.  Congratulations.

I remember telling you, over a year ago, to raise your own queens and you replied you were not ready.  looks to me like your doing a fine job raising queens for one who was not ready.

Health to your bees.

Van
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Re: New Years Queens
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2020, 09:28:02 pm »
Quick update on this thread. I inspected both of the New Years Queens today.

1 is laying only drones.

The 2nd queen is doing great. Her brood pattern is solid, and wall-to-wall.

My only concern: I'm guessing the 2nd queen is probably poorly mated, simply because there weren't a lot of drones available at the time of her mating flights, the weather wasn't great, and the 1st queen doesn't appear to be mated at all.

But all of that is ok - because she's (the 2nd) already done her job. She saved a large hive for me, and I'll have her daughters within 30 days (hopefully).  :grin:
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