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Offline TheFuzz

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Is it important to heat frames before extraction?
« on: January 11, 2020, 08:41:45 am »
I have a 12 frame honey spinning extractor. Usually, I go to my bees, and take honey frames back home with me, put the frames in a heating room, then put the warmed frames in the spinner. I then have sticky frames on hand at home.

I want to take my 12 frame honey extractor with me, and set it up in a room next to the beehives. I won't have my heating room if I do this. The advantage is, I don't need to take the sticky frames back home with me, as soon as they're spinned, I can put them back in the beehive.

I'm fine with potentially not extracting as much honey, because I'll be giving it all back to the bees anyway. I'm concerned though, is it possible for me to have lower quality honey by doing it this way? I ask because, I'm under the impression that different components of honey is more inclined to go hard and not spin out easier, whereas some components are more likely to become a liquid (fructose?) and are more likely to pour out.

If it is important to heat the honey frames before extraction, could I make some sort of portable frame heater? I'm thinking of getting some bee boxs, a bottom and a lid, and stack them up with a heating light globe inside the boxs, perhaps attached to the lid. I could put the honey frames inside, and the light globe could heat it up. Could this be worth setting up?

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Re: Is it important to heat frames before extraction?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2020, 09:25:02 am »
What temperature will it be at when you extract?  Those that extract in summer temperatures do not heat frames.  Also the type of honey might make a difference if it tends to crystallize.
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Re: Is it important to heat frames before extraction?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2020, 06:38:55 pm »
The honey needs to be at least room temperature.  Ideally it should be 80 to 90 F.  But that isn't necessary.
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Re: Is it important to heat frames before extraction?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2020, 08:03:50 pm »
The weather will be between about 83-113 for the next month or so. I'll be doing under a cool, shaded area though. Would it be better to do it on a hotter day then?

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Re: Is it important to heat frames before extraction?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 09:24:38 am »
The weather will be between about 83-113 for the next month or so. I'll be doing under a cool, shaded area though. Would it be better to do it on a hotter day then?
No, the process is hot enough.  Too warm and you blow out frames.
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Re: Is it important to heat frames before extraction?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2020, 06:23:09 pm »
113 is bad news for extracting... 90 would be about my max.  80 is about ideal.
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