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A little perspective
« on: December 12, 2019, 03:37:52 pm »
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2019, 03:38:45 pm »
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2019, 03:55:18 pm »
At daybreak on December 29, 1890 at Wounded Knee South Dakota the US government took the guns away from Big Foot's band of Lakota.  300 of the 350 were shot by the US government that same day.  Being disarmed has never worked out well.
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2019, 04:12:19 pm »
At daybreak on December 29, 1890 at Wounded Knee South Dakota the US government took the guns away from Big Foot's band of Lakota.  300 of the 350 were shot by the US government that same day.  Being disarmed has never worked out well.

Err ... Yup. One of several sad days in American history. ... with more to come if we are ever disarmed.
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2019, 11:59:42 pm »
Err ... Yup. One of several sad days in American history. ... with more to come if we are ever disarmed.
The second amendment to me includes the right of the people to to keep and bear arms with burst and full auto....nothing less. It is not at its core about self defense in the home.

The Heller decision did not get it all right.

We might technically have not been disarmed, but we are certainly disadvantaged. The two historical pictures above include then state of the art military arms.
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2019, 01:45:03 am »
Err ... Yup. One of several sad days in American history. ... with more to come if we are ever disarmed.
The second amendment to me includes the right of the people to to keep and bear arms with burst and full auto....nothing less. It is not at its core about self defense in the home.

The Heller decision did not get it all right.

We might technically have not been disarmed, but we are certainly disadvantaged. The two historical pictures above include then state of the art military arms.

Very good point Tom.
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2019, 08:39:55 am »
Say Ben, I think this entire topic is about hate and it is so close to Christmas.
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2019, 09:58:25 am »
Say Ben, I think this entire topic is about hate and it is so close to Christmas.
Really, how so?

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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2019, 10:16:48 am »
I agree, Ace. We do hate the thought of being slaughtered like a bunch of cattle.  You got it right for once.
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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2019, 11:03:45 am »
Been watching the impeachment, Yep there is hate and the same people that demonstrate their hate would be using their time to take our God given rights if they weren't trying to impeach the President.  Blessings are often disguised, and we must look for them.

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Re: A little perspective
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2019, 11:13:17 am »
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Blessings are often disguised, and we must look for them.

yup, and we may have just gotten one   :cheesy:
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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