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Offline Bob Wilson

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Size of migratory tops
« on: April 26, 2020, 05:53:57 pm »
Is it alright if a migratory top overhangs the edge of a hive? I never see it done. Tops are always flush with the hive body's sides. Would an inch overhang all around be a problem?

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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2020, 05:58:49 pm »
The reason migratory tops are flush is so they can be stacked next to each other on a skid.  If you aren't strapping them together and moving them, then it really doesn't matter the size of the top.  Although too much overhang can catch more air on a windy day.

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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2020, 02:40:02 am »
This following information may possibly help you. I have been using Advantech (from Lowes) laid on top cut to fit.  Recently, I have switched products, to Legacy LP 23/32 from Home Depot. I have had some strong winds with nearby trees uprooted while both were in use, yet not a slight movement out of position of these tops.
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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2020, 01:32:00 pm »
The HD here doesn?t carry it for some reason. I?ll check and see if they can get some shipped to store

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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 08:56:22 am »
Most migratory tops that I have seen overhang on the front and back sides.
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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 01:45:46 pm »
Hi Bob,

As Cao mentioned, the migratory top evolved for easy of transporting lots of boxes as it allows them to stack next to each other fully assembled.  I recently built 4 NUC's that were designed with migratory tops and I am modifying the tops to be telescoping lids to prevent rain intrusion as it rains a lot where I live.  If transporting lots and lots of them is not foreseen, I see no reason not to modify them to suit your needs.

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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2020, 02:06:26 pm »
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I made couple yesterday along with some bottom boards. I allowed about 1/2? over hang.

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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2020, 11:44:45 pm »
This following information may possibly help you. I have been using Advantech (from Lowes) laid on top cut to fit.  Recently, I have switched products, to Legacy LP 23/32 from Home Depot. I have had some strong winds with nearby trees uprooted while both were in use, yet not a slight movement out of position of these tops.

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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2020, 11:53:30 pm »
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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2020, 10:32:12 am »
Thanks Ben, Nock, and you others.
The Advantech looks like composite particle board, which falls apart in the rain. Although i know the glues they use (like Gorilla glue) make all the difference. I may build my next hive out of a sheet of one of those.

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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2020, 12:21:54 pm »
Thanks Ben, Nock, and you others.
The Advantech looks like composite particle board, which falls apart in the rain. Although i know the glues they use (like Gorilla glue) make all the difference. I may build my next hive out of a sheet of one of those.

Your Welcome Bob, I use the LP Legacy or Advantech for tops and bottoms only. I go conventional for everything else.  One more thing I would like to add. I make sure to use the more heavily glued, (yellowish side for the exposed side of my tops),  as I feel this side is the side with the more glue protection. I hope that helps also.
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Re: Size of migratory tops
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2020, 01:53:22 pm »
The main point of a migratory top is to be able to put the hives all up against each other...
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