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Offline Ben Framed

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Re: Big Lies
« Reply #400 on: January 11, 2020, 01:29:02 pm »
Did the Iranians?? YES.  Did they also blow up shopping centers, buses, ETC. ETC. with many civilians being killed? YES. If a bank robber accidentally shoots his partner, is it the bank's fault for having the money available?? Com'n, cider, even you can do better than that.

Pills and salt are much better than LSD. Maybe you need to switch. You are hallucinating badly.

Ah haa haaa haaaa. No offence Cider but that was funny!!!  I had resolved to keep my post to the beekeeping section because I did not want to let my smart mouth along with Mr Beemaster, to send me  to la la land,'' the land of blue bee!'' But dang iddee it looks like that is where you are headed my friend. So "Where we go one, we go all" .  :shocked: :cheesy: :grin:
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« Reply #401 on: January 11, 2020, 02:53:19 pm »
Did the Iranians?? YES.  Did they also blow up shopping centers, buses, ETC. ETC. with many civilians being killed? YES. If a bank robber accidentally shoots his partner, is it the bank's fault for having the money available?? Com'n, cider, even you can do better than that.

Pills and salt are much better than LSD. Maybe you need to switch. You are hallucinating badly.

Ah haa haaa haaaa. No offence Cider but that was funny!!!  I had resolved to keep my post to the beekeeping section because I did not want to let my smart mouth along with Mr Beemaster, to send me  to la la land,'' the land of blue bee!'' But dang iddee it looks like that is where you are headed my friend. So ""Where we go one, we go all"" .  :shocked: :cheesy: :grin:
Sorry Ben, but I don't think the shooting down of civilian airliners by no matter whom, to be remotely funny. How many shopping centres, buses were blown up in Iraq, Libya, Afganistan etc that iddee seems to think are throw away statistics or collateral damage. He needs to get a grip of his senses before they have totally left him.
What's good for bees is usually good for mankind. Doesn't that mean sharing?

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« Reply #402 on: January 11, 2020, 03:10:25 pm »
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So it doesn't bother you that so many died in the shot down plane so long as "trump won once again" Great humanity

Since Iran did it, I see no reason for anyone else to own that.  It was also a Russian surrogate or perhaps the Russians who shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight.  We never did get the full story on that as I recall.

as for 1988, my brother as on the USS Vincennes.  There was a lot more to that story than most know, although much of it has come out in anonymous reports and speculation.  In that case, those reports are more true than false.
Could you then, from your familial experience, enlighten us on the 'true' facts?   
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« Reply #403 on: January 11, 2020, 03:22:08 pm »
Did the Iranians?? YES.  Did they also blow up shopping centers, buses, ETC. ETC. with many civilians being killed? YES. If a bank robber accidentally shoots his partner, is it the bank's fault for having the money available?? Com'n, cider, even you can do better than that.

Pills and salt are much better than LSD. Maybe you need to switch. You are hallucinating badly.

Ah haa haaa haaaa. No offence Cider but that was funny!!!  I had resolved to keep my post to the beekeeping section because I did not want to let my smart mouth along with Mr Beemaster, to send me  to la la land,'' the land of blue bee!'' But dang iddee it looks like that is where you are headed my friend. So ""Where we go one, we go all"" .  :shocked: :cheesy: :grin:
Sorry Ben, but I don't think the shooting down of civilian airliners by no matter whom, to be remotely funny. How many shopping centres, buses were blown up in Iraq, Libya, Afganistan etc that iddee seems to think are throw away statistics or collateral damage. He needs to get a grip of his senses before they have totally left him.

Nor do I not think it is funny when anyone is killed on either side of any equation, in my opinion it is a tragedy. The Iranians, Ukrainians, Russians, English, as well as American?s love their family members and their fellow countrymen. It is a tragedy. My heart goes out to all who have suffered on all sides. If it was up to me the hate would end, the endless wars would end. Unfortunately, hate is running ramped. Allow me clarify, It was the shooting you down by Iddee that I got tickled about... Good clean fun among friends....   :grin:
and I quote  Iddee
? Pills and salt are much better than LSD. Maybe you need to switch. You are hallucinating badly.? 
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« Reply #404 on: January 11, 2020, 05:30:36 pm »
Not funny at all, especially when the wrong ones are blamed for doing it. I'm just trying to get you to realize where it came from.

Of course,. you already know, just refuse to admit it.
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« Reply #405 on: January 12, 2020, 05:32:53 am »
Not funny at all, especially when the wrong ones are blamed for doing it. I'm just trying to get you to realize where it came from.

Of course,. you already know, just refuse to admit it.
Wally, Just remind me of how many Tomahawks, smart bombs and drone hellfires, etc have been used in Iraq War 1&2, Syria, Afganistan etc
Now I don't particularly care if in a war you throw whatever you like at each other. But don't cry if you get hurt.

This just about says it all.

"He got them so shook up that they killed 176, mostly their own, but no Americans.
Trump won once again, as usual".  :wink: 
and to attach a smillie 'wink' is just the icing on the cake!
What's good for bees is usually good for mankind. Doesn't that mean sharing?

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« Reply #406 on: January 12, 2020, 06:18:27 am »
Yep, you sound like a Pelosi student. You can interpret anything 2 or 3 ways if you want.

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Re: Big Lies
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« Reply #408 on: February 07, 2020, 08:41:48 am »
Yes and they are in Congress to destroy the US we know and love. Only reason for making a law like that is to encourage thugs to come here illegally and commit their crimes on Americans.
Congress is so screwed up that if we do not vote these people out of office, we will be forced to start all over.
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« Reply #409 on: February 07, 2020, 02:34:12 pm »
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Congress is so screwed up that if we do not vote these people out of office, we will be forced to start all over.
Jim Altmiller

I don't think that bill will pass, but it gives us an indication of where they want to take us.  When they find out they can't pass something like this they will do it incrementally.  It won't take the squad and their followers to learn this.

They are the next generation of congress and we need to be prepared.

They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: Big Lies
« Reply #410 on: February 07, 2020, 02:46:51 pm »
Yes and they are in Congress to destroy the US we know and love. Only reason for making a law like that is to encourage thugs to come here illegally and commit their crimes on Americans.
Congress is so screwed up that if we do not vote these people out of office, we will be forced to start all over.
Jim Altmiller

If you are correct, and it looks as if you may very well be.  I have a question Jim. I can not understand why these folks wish to do so? (the squad) Why the radicalism?  Wonder why they are so radically minded? It baffles me (the unanswered questions) as to why they would want to kill the goose that is laying the golden eggs 🥚. It seems  our country is so very blessed as compared to most countries in the world? Why would anyone want to destroy that? Maybe you can tell me?

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« Reply #411 on: February 07, 2020, 09:23:01 pm »
Ben,
First of all socialism is being heavily pushed in the public schools, even more so our colleges. The second reason is power. That is why removing our guns is their number one priority. You cannot have the total power that they want with a well armed society.
Jim Altmiller