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Re: Big Lies
« Reply #180 on: January 22, 2019, 02:59:17 am »
There was an interview with the young man in our press and some justifications and explanations.
Seems like the clips were taken out of the context like always.

Still, I don?t like cameras involved in such moments. It?s too easy to create fake moments and people are acting differently, no matter which side they are on.

Why not inviting talks? Is conversation impossible today with the use of echo chamber media? From eye to eye many civilised talks are possible if the adults start them
And where is the teacher trying to interfere and explain the situation?

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« Reply #181 on: January 22, 2019, 03:48:38 am »
There was an interview with the young man in our press and some justifications and explanations.
Seems like the clips were taken out of the context like always ...
welcome to the news media world-wide today. I wish it wasn't so - but it is.

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... Still, I don?t like cameras involved in such moments. It?s too easy to create fake moments and people are acting differently, no matter which side they are on. ...


Thats our National Mall (if I have the name correct) - the cameras are ALWAYS there 24/7/365. You are shown (around the world) what they want you to see. Nothing else. Do they show an aging Black Vet helping an aging jewish woman in her wheelchair over the curb? ... or do they show a Jewish woman helping  an aging Black man in his wheelchair over the curb? ... happens every day there - BUT they refuse to show it. ... that's the way things are today in America - ... ... ... and the world.

... And where is the teacher trying to interfere and explain the situation? ...
... the teachers are there - they are not shown on purpose, because it doesn't fit CNN's objective. I don't care much for the catholic church. .... but both of my children went to catholic schools, and both went on this (mandatory - paid for by us parents at our expense) tour. The teachers and the chaperones were there. The rules for the trip were covered with both the young people, the chaperones, the teachers, and the Church - several times in the months ahead of the trip. I'm thankful to see that the young people in that video, and my own children (some time ago) handled themselves professionally in that circumstance.

Enough said. The video is a propoganda piece. Welcome to it - and WAKE UP.
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« Reply #182 on: January 22, 2019, 07:35:15 am »
This is at the Lincoln Memoral. As the camera person scrolls back and forth you can see the Memoral building and as he rotated the camera in the opposite direction you can see the Washington monument. These protesters are clearly, CLEARLY, harassing tourist. These kids didn't know how to answer these raceist child abusers. So what did they do? They turned the situation in to a prep rally clearly, as one of the boys,  led them in a school cheer and every kid, white and black were in sync. Just as they would be at a prep rally before a ball game.  Innocent, Sweet kids, again FAKE NEWS!! So verdict, BIG LIE!!

Oh yes, one more thing. The Indian man with the Vietnam hat was not shown again once he reveled he was a historian. Hum, And when the on looking tourist were gathered, The demonic haters, claiming  to be "good guys" suddenly stopped spewing hate toward the (Indians) and directed it toward the children, trying to then, entice the "Indians" to join them! After the haters had clearly  antagonizing, (causing them to become hostile). The Vietnam Memoral is just yards  from the Lincoln Memoral and within easy walking distance. Vietnam vets can often be seen here. God Bless them !! It's a wonder that the hostil protesters didn't or don't harass Vetrans for wearing their Vietnam hats accusing them of being haters also. Maybe on a given day they do? I don't know.
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« Reply #183 on: January 24, 2019, 12:03:33 am »
Very well said - both Dallas and Ben (phillip). I loved the Scripture.

Also note: I have the yearbook to prove that I attended High School on an Indian Reservation. The "individual" with the drum did not act like, or speak like, any "Tribal Elder" that I've ever known (Apache, Navaho, Havasu, Flathead, Sioux, Blackfoot, Arapahoe, etc). And I don't think his type would be tolerated in, nor does he represent, any Tribe I've been in contact with. He sounded much more like a modern day CNN Hack - IMNSHO.

1st world problems. It must have been a slow news day for CNN. But maybe that's normal reporting for them - I don't know because I don't watch them. People are in need of drama, and CNN is supplying it.

You can bet that CNN has 100's of 1,000's of hrs of video from "The Mall" - and this is what they choose to air ... ... ... what else can be said about them?.?.

Side note: those young people handled themselves very well.

Thanks Alan for your input on this, I would suppose with your background, you would pretty well have a good opinion on this!!   I also think that it is awesome that you are here!!
God Bless you Sir, Phillip
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Re: Big Lies
« Reply #184 on: January 24, 2019, 01:02:58 am »
Hi Folks,

A Saturday Night Live comedy writer responded to the media?s false story about the Covington High kids by offering oral sex to anyone who punches them in the face.

I will ballou whoever manages to punch that MAGA kid in the face, tweeted Sarah Beattie.

Madonna and others made the same promise.

Liars!

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« Reply #185 on: January 24, 2019, 01:23:12 am »
Hi Folks,

A Saturday Night Live comedy writer responded to the media?s false story about the Covington High kids by offering oral sex to anyone who punches them in the face.

I will ballou whoever manages to punch that MAGA kid in the face, tweeted Sarah Beattie.

Madonna and others made the same promise.

Liars!

Sal


Would evil or wicked or both or perhaps some other words be useful to describe these hateful (stars?)   And please do not use the word sick, to politically correct for the above stated by Sal.  Sal are you sure about this, this sounds like a big lie, no offense intended. Can you back this up?  Dallas, you are the attorney, what can be done about this inciting a Nation to do violence against a minor? Maybe its time for you to come out of retirement and take the case. Add a few more million to your retirement fund! Or donate to charity. I would not recommend the Clinton Foundation for obvious reasons!! :wink:

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« Reply #186 on: January 24, 2019, 07:07:37 am »
Hi Folks,

This was not presented as a lie. My oversight. It's apparently true, from many sources.

https://dc-chronicle.com/2019/01/21/snl-writer-offers-fellatio-anyone-punching-covington-minor-face/

Perhaps I should have written: SNL writer DID NOT offer.... That would have been the lie, in line with the thread.

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« Reply #187 on: January 24, 2019, 10:01:31 am »
The media have now started calling Phillips a "Vietnam era vet".  He was a US Marine and when the US Marines pulled out of Vietnam he would have been 16...

I've watched several videos of the occurrence (there are many out there on youtube shot by different people) and none of what Phillips describes later to reporters happened.  No chanting "build the wall" by the kids.  No surrounding him or confronting him.  Plenty of room for him to just turn right and walk up the steps to the Lincoln Memorial, which he said he was going to when he says the kids blocked him.  Also Phillips was involved previously in a altercation with a fraternity in Michigan where he lives and he accused them of being disrespectful and threatening... 
https://t.co/2nSJIETFiy

Nathan Phillips' cohort who was yelling at the kids to go back to Europe etc. says right before the Indians all leave "I got em, man, I got em" and all the Indians turn to leave...
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« Reply #188 on: January 24, 2019, 10:31:26 am »
How about this??

The Native American Activist who approached a group of Catholic School students and loudly banged his drum has been outed as a man with a violent criminal record. He also escaped from jail as a teenager.

Phillips has a radical past and has been known to go overboard in his protesting. The night before the incident with the Catholic students, he caused a scene at a Catholic church in D.C.


https://100percentfedup.com/just-in-native-american-who-taunted-covington-kids-has-violent-criminal-record-escaped-from-jail/
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« Reply #189 on: January 24, 2019, 10:34:43 am »
The media have now started calling Phillips a "Vietnam era vet".  He was a US Marine and when the US Marines pulled out of Vietnam he would have been 16...

I've watched several videos of the occurrence (there are many out there on youtube shot by different people) and none of what Phillips describes later to reporters happened.  No chanting "build the wall" by the kids.  No surrounding him or confronting him.  Plenty of room for him to just turn right and walk up the steps to the Lincoln Memorial, which he said he was going to when he says the kids blocked him.  Also Phillips was involved previously in a altercation with a fraternity in Michigan where he lives and he accused them of being disrespectful and threatening... 
https://t.co/2nSJIETFiy

Nathan Phillips' cohort who was yelling at the kids to go back to Europe etc. says right before the Indians all leave "I got em, man, I got em" and all the Indians turn to leave...

Thank you Mr Bush, bus loads of kids are coming and going all through the day
Here .  This just happened to be the ones singled out for this  opportunist glory seeker. One source told yesterday, that this is the fourth time Phillips has made his way to the spotlight with questionable situations.
Hum

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« Reply #190 on: January 24, 2019, 11:43:36 pm »
Hi Folks,

There are two ways of being fooled.

One is to believe what is not true.

The other is to refuse to accept what is true.

Quote by a guy named Soren Kierkegaard.

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Oh. The above quote is true.
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« Reply #191 on: January 29, 2019, 10:18:44 pm »
Hi Folks,

More lies.

Former NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw comments that Hispanics "should work harder at assimilation".

The remarks -- which Brokaw has since tried to walk back -- ignited a firestorm of criticism.

"I also happen to believe that the Hispanics should work harder at assimilation. ... They ought not to be just codified in their communities," Brokaw said in a TV roundtable Sunday, "but make sure that all their kids are learning to speak English, and that they feel comfortable in the communities."


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« Reply #192 on: January 30, 2019, 12:19:13 am »
I?m confused.  Did Brokejaw say that, or is it a lie?
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« Reply #193 on: January 30, 2019, 12:25:46 am »
He did.
Why did you ask?
Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black don't you know.

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« Reply #194 on: January 30, 2019, 07:24:32 pm »
Hi Folks,

The Presidents Aunty Zeituni is in the USA illegally,... an illegal alien,  collecting welfare and living in public housing in Boston! Very fasionably dressed, however.

Please click the link for video:



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I was reminded about this earlier today.
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« Reply #195 on: January 30, 2019, 07:58:14 pm »
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I?m confused.  Did Brokejaw say that, or is it a lie?

Yup.  Learn English and assimilate.  He was bashed for it.  He's not wrong. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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« Reply #196 on: January 30, 2019, 10:54:46 pm »
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I?m confused.  Did Brokejaw say that, or is it a lie?

Yup.  Learn English and assimilate.  He was bashed for it.  He's not wrong.

I just thought old Tom had spent so much time in the MSM that he was totally brainwashed into spouting the leftist line of appeasing the folks who want to bring Mexico across the river. 
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« Reply #197 on: February 02, 2019, 10:09:02 am »
Hi Folks,

I was just reading "comments" in an article about that Chicago attack. I sometimes find the comments/discussions  more informative than the stories. This was one comment:

I've been in Chicago for a few months now. actually a mile from roughly where the incident took place. There is nobody running around yelling this is maga country. Let me tell you that the tiny few Republicans i know here keep it very quietly because we'll either be harassed or get screamed for being racist xenophobic bigots. My actual home is in San Francisco but Chicago actually feels just as leftist as SF feels.

You can be a leftist here and freely express your opinions and political views without fear of being harmed. You cannot be open about being on the right. You're treated like a Nazi. And basically anyone i meet that refuses to talk politics, i know they're right leaning or center right leaning. We keep our mouths shut here (and in SF) unless you are in the mood for having a conversation that always leads to screaming and then most likely throwing down. It's really sad. And the funny thing is the people I meet who are right leaning are easier to speak to, and act more sane. And I'm not talking about non-leftist progresive liberals (because you don't find them anymore), im talking about the most intolerant and judgmental people I've ever met in my life, progressive 'new socialist' leftists.

I do not believe this mans story. I believe he was jumped/robbed/beat up... but i have no doubt he added the rest to make people leftists angry to show people how bad Trump's America is. If there were mobs of MAGA white kids running around here, they'd be beat and shot in a matter of seconds. This story is big bs

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« Reply #198 on: February 02, 2019, 11:58:35 am »
Salvo, I had the same thought.  Even when I was there years ago it was not a place people would have worn anything that labeled them republican or conservative.  There were and still are, places white people just don't go.

I don't know this neighborhood, but I'll be interested to see how this plays out. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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« Reply #199 on: February 03, 2019, 10:27:53 am »
Hi Folks,

Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life,... shouldn't you choose life when it's pretty reasonable?

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