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Re: "it's rigged, it's rigged!"
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2016, 10:10:28 am »
Do you really believe Snopes?

Probably more than he believes Trump! :cheesy:
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Re: "it's rigged, it's rigged!"
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2016, 10:27:46 am »
Depends on whether you count the dead voter's ballots and the non-citizen's ballots or not.  It is questionable when some areas had more votes than the population of the area.
But that is neither here nor there. We don't choose a president by who gets the most votes from the citizens. If we did, 5% of the land mass would always control. 95% of the land mass has too few people to compete head to head with the larger cities.
Surely it would be an individual citizens vote irrespective of how many resided in which ever state? and so would remove the chance of corruption in the  'electoral collage voting system' :smile:
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Re: "it's rigged, it's rigged!"
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2016, 11:54:04 am »
And allow 3 states to rule all 50. No, thanks.
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Re: "it's rigged, it's rigged!"
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2016, 01:14:19 pm »
And allow 3 states to rule all 50. No, thanks.

Totally agree. The electoral college gives rural states a say in the election. If it were up to a straight popular vote only the interests of urban and suburban voters would be addressed.
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Re: "it's rigged, it's rigged!"
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2016, 03:01:18 pm »
And that is exactly what the electoral college was designed for, and why it is as relevant today as it has always been.   It worked exactly as planned!
People forget that there was a time in our history where the rural population was greater than the urban population.  At that time, the electoral college 'saved' the city dwellers from majority rule by the farmers.   The EC is there to protect the rights of the minority population, as opposed to direct popular vote, which is a guarantee of mob rule.  Just look at European history 100 years ago for evidence of my claim.  The Russian revolution was a text book case of a majority of wolves voting to eat the sheep.
This is not the 1st time that the EC vote defeated the popular vote, nor will it be the last.

And the corruption lies in the individual ballots, not the electoral college.  For example, Chicago and Denver both (and other locales) have long histories of dead people voting and living people voting multiple times, as well as ineligible people voting.  How is that populist vote even close to fair and just?
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