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Offline GSF

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(Jewish) Book of Giants
« on: December 14, 2015, 09:32:10 pm »
I've gotten pretty interested in this. To bring you up to speed. Around 1947 a Bedouin(sp?) boy made a historic archaeological discovery - the dead sea scrolls. We all know about them, what many don't know is the other books found along beside the scrolls. Many biblical scholars have dismissed the other books saying they weren't scripture. One of these books found is the book of Giants. If you've read your bible you know that giants existed during the wanderings of the children of Israel. The most well know; Goliath who stood 9"6". Anyway, what I'm thinking is that this book, if not scripture may have been historical fact. What say you;

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Re: (Jewish) Book of Giants
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 09:36:27 am »
Goliath was not during the wanderings.  It was during the reign of King Saul, long after the trip across the desert.  But there are other references to Giants.  The first:
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."--Genesis 6:4

This is pre-flood and pre-Abraham.

When they were in the wanderings and about to go into Canaan we have this:
"And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."--Numbers 13:33

There are 9 other references to giants, often talking about whole peoples of giants.    Here's one with measurements:
"For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man."--Deuteronomy 3:11

9 cubits is over 13 feet.  4 cubits is just short of six feet.  Keep in mind this is his bed, not the person...

And of course the classic Goliath with measurements:
"And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span."--1 Samuel 17:4

6 cubits is almost 9 feet.  A span is 9" which makes him about 9' 9".  Robert Pershing Wadlow (22 Feb 198-27 Jun 1940) was 8' 11.1"  Less than an inch away from 9 feet.
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Re: (Jewish) Book of Giants
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 12:35:40 pm »
Pretty interesting.
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Re: (Jewish) Book of Giants
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2015, 06:35:45 am »
Thanks for correcting me on the "wandering" error. What interest me is that who ever hid the dead sea scrolls thought that the other books found with them was important enough to preserve as well. Some of what he said on that video is a little hard to swallow, however, it would explain dinosaurs.
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Re: (Jewish) Book of Giants
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2015, 08:24:32 am »
>Some of what he said on that video is a little hard to swallow, however, it would explain dinosaurs.

...and minotaurs, and fuans, and hippogryphs, and centaurs...
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Re: (Jewish) Book of Giants
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2018, 11:36:59 pm »
Goliath was 4 cubics and a span, that is 6 ft 6 inches,, cubic equals 18 inches a span is the length between thumb and little tip of little finger.  The average man at that time was 5 feet to 5 feet 3 inches tall.
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Re: (Jewish) Book of Giants
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2018, 10:09:23 am »
To know the Bible is a good thing.

To know the events which came a few centuries later, and which forged the book you refer to - Constantine - the Battle of Milvian Bridge - the Council of Nicea etc - is even better (imo).  For they explain much about the military origins of Pauline Christianity and how it was catapulted from being the belief system of a relatively minor (but very troublesome, from the Roman's point-of-view) messianic cult into a dominant world religion.
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