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Interesting take on Donald Trump
« on: December 11, 2015, 11:02:13 pm »
Former U. S. Secretary of Education , William J. Bennett?s frankly candid and shocking observations of Donald Trump?s impact on the behavior of the entrenched Washington D.C. bureaucrats in both parties -- and the risk The Donald faces in so doing.

William J. Bennett, Host of Bill Bennett's Morning in America Show, is one of America's most important, influential, and respected voices on cultural, political, and education issues. He has one of the strongest Christian world views of any writer in modern times.

What I See Happening In a Trump Presidency

By Bill Bennett They will kill him before they let him be president. It could be a Republican or a Democrat that instigates the shutting up of Trump.

Don't be surprised if Trump has an accident. Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few.

It's about the unholy dynamics between big government, big business, and big media. They all benefit by the billions of dollars from this partnership, and it's in all of their interests to protect one another. It's one for all and all for one.

It's a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich, everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We're the patsies. But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media, and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened.

Donald Trump can self-fund. No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business, and political elite understand that Trump is no joke. He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.
It's no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy The Donald. It's because most of the other politicians are part of the a good old boys club. They talk big, but they won't change a thing. They are all beholden to big-money donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, and multinational corporations - like Big Pharmacy or Big Oil. Or they are owned lock, stock, and barrel by foreigners like George Soros owns Obama or foreign governments own Hillary and their Clinton Foundation donations.

These run-of-the-mill establishment politicians are all puppets owned by big money. But there's one man who isn't beholden to anyone There's one man who doesn't need foreigners, or foreign governments, or George Soros, or the United Auto Workers, or the teacher's union, or the Service Employees International Union, or the Bar Association to fund his campaign.

Billionaire tycoon and maverick Donald Trump doesn't need anyone's help. That means he doesn't care what the media says. He doesn't care what the corporate elites think. That makes him very dangerous to the entrenched interests. That makes Trump a huge threat to those people. Trump can ruin everything for the bribed politicians and their spoiled slave masters.

Don't you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama? Don't you wonder why John Boehner and Mitch McConnell talk a big game, but never actually try to stop Obama? Don't you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings, yet has never tried to de-fund Obamacare or Obama's clearly illegal executive action on amnesty for illegal aliens? Bizarre, right? It defies logic, right?

First, I'd guess many key Republicans are being bribed. Secondly, I believe many key Republicans are being blackmailed. Whether they are having affairs, or secretly gay, or stealing taxpayer money, the National Security Agency knows everything.

Ask former House Speaker Dennis Hastert about that. The government even knew he was withdrawing large sums of his own money from his own bank account. The NSA, the SEC, the IRS, and all the other three-letter government agencies are watching every    Republican political leader. They surveil everything. Thirdly, many Republicans are petrified of being called racists, so they are scared to ever criticize Obama or call out his crimes, let alone demand his impeachment. Fourth , why rock the boat? After defeat or retirement, if you're a good old boy, you've got a $5 million-per-year lobbying job waiting. The big-money interests have the system gamed. Win or lose, they win.

But Trump doesn't play by any of these rules. Trump breaks up this nice, cozy relationship between big government, big media, and big business. All the rules are out the window if Trump wins the Presidency. The other politicians will protect Obama and his aides but not Trump. Remember: Trump is the guy who publicly questioned Obama's birth certificate. He questioned Obama's college records and how a mediocre student got into an Ivy League university. Now, he's doing something no Republican has the chutzpah to do. He's questioning our relationship with Mexico; he's questioning why the border is wide open; he's questioning why no wall has been built across the border; he's questioning if allowing millions of illegal aliens into America is in our best interests; he's questioning why so many illegal aliens commit violent crimes, yet are not deported; and he's questioning why our trade deals with Mexico, Russia and China are so bad.

Trump has the audacity to ask out loud why American workers always get the short end of the stick. Good question! I'm certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michelle Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare website. By the way, that tab is now up to $5 billion. Trump will ask if Obamacare's architects can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying. Trump will investigate Obama's widespread IRS conspiracy, not to mention Obama's college records. Trump will prosecute Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover up Benghazi before the election. How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election?

Obama, the multinational corporations and the media need to stop Trump. They recognize this could get out of control. If left unchecked, telling the raw truth and asking questions everyone else is afraid to ask, Trump could wake a sleeping giant. Trump's election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Trump would dare to prosecute. He will not hesitate.  Once Trump gets in and gets a look at the cooked books and Obama's records, the game is over. The jig is up. The goose is cooked. Holder could wind up in prison. Jarrett could wind up in prison.  Obama bundler Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money. Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails or for accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State, or for misplacing $6 billion as the head of the State Department, or for lying about Benghazi. The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison.

Obamacare will be de-funded and dismantled. Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters. Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved. That's why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump.

Yes, it's become open season on Donald Trump. The left and the right are determined to attack his policies, harm his businesses, and, if possible, even keep him out of the coming debates. But they can't silence him. And they sure can't intimidate him. The more they try, the more the public will realize that he's the one telling the truth.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2015, 07:06:47 am »
Iddee, that's been one of my major concerns with Trump. Either the Democrats or Republicans will kill him before he's elected.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2015, 07:41:57 am »
I think I just changed my vote to Trump. If this happened, it would change America forever. Proiticians would know they can be held accountable for their actions.
If we just stopped the fraud and gross waist, we could balance the budget. Getting rid of Obama careless would be a great start.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 11:38:17 am »
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I find it interesting that you say both the republicans and the democrates are scared of trump but in you points to show that you only point out all the democrates policies and poeple to make your case.  From your post it only seems like all the democrats will be going to jail.  What have the republicans got to fear? 

You say that the republicans didn't stop obama.  That is all they have did since he got in office.  They tried to stop him regardless of any merit on any issue.  It didn't matter if it was a good thing or a bad thing, the republicans went against it if obama was for it. 

Trump is but one man and if he were to win, which I doubt.  He could not make everyone be against him and expect to get anything done.  He might make a judge apointment and a couple of appointments over some of the governments departments but has to have votes from the three branches under the constitution to actually pass legislation. 

It is interesting to hear him throw out the little bombs and on liners and I even agree with him once in a while as he does so.  Like where he wanted a single payer health care.  I liked that.  I wonder where his votes for that would come from in the republican senate and house?
Oh well, differrent strokes for differrent folks.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2015, 06:07:31 pm »
""Former U. S. Secretary of Education , William J. Bennett?s frankly candid and shocking observations of Donald Trump?s""
gww, I'm flattered. You actually thought I was Mr. Bennett?

No, they didn't try to stop him from anything. They put on a show and then backed up and let him have his way. It was just to pull the wool over the citizen's eyes. Looks like it worked well for you. That's why the repubs are afraid of Trump. He will push them to complete the objection once started.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2015, 07:26:18 pm »
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gww, I'm flattered. You actually thought I was Mr. Bennett?
Yes, that was sloppieness on my part when trying to critique the artical.

I just keep remembering goerge bush's 8 years and can't help but thinking that in comparison, obama is close to a saint.  They are all bought off and have learned how to make deals, many against my interest.  I hope obama loses on gun regs but really consider most republicans as truly against poeple that are blue coller, midle class.  I voted for regan over carter which was my first election.  I have reassessed that vote after living for awhile and think that was my first mistake.  I keep hearing that polls say that the public doesn't think the congress is working cause they can't pass anything.  I sorta think that not being able to pass anything might be a plus.  I guess you never say never but I am not voting for trump.  I might vote for an independant some day but doubt I ever vote again for someone who wants to be, calls himself or wants to be associated with the word republican.

I notice that I am pretty alone in my veiws on this forum but thats ok.  I don't have the energy or time to debate and do alot of research so I just throw a barb out or play devils avocate once in awhile.  I find it a bit interesting and like to see alternating view presented but don't have it as my top priority.

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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2015, 08:15:22 pm »
And I still think Carter was our worse president up to that time. George W. showed me it could be worse.  Now the O' has showed me it could get even worse yet. At least all the priors before O', I thought were Americans. I think O' is not, and is working fervently to change it to a North African country. He is ISIS's favorite man of the year, and will likely go down in history as promoting them and bringing them to power.

I consider myself middle class, as I think most forum members do, and we are mostly republicans. Don't you wonder why? It just may be that republicans try to keep the money they steal from us buying what it is meant to buy, and not to support all the bums and bleep that are too sorry to work. The democrats want to take what they steal from us, give it to the worthless, then come back and complain because they didn't steal enough.

PS. The first one I voted for was named George, but it wasn't bush. It was 1968. I still wish he had won.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2015, 08:46:07 pm »
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PS. The first one I voted for was named George, but it wasn't bush. It was 1968. I still wish he had won.

I was feeling pretty old but you let the cat out of the bag.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2015, 09:27:46 pm »
Now come on, gww. You mean you don't still have your pickwick drumstick?     :rolleyes:    :shocked:     :cheesy: :cheesy:
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2015, 12:08:02 am »
.................... that he's the one telling the truth.

Having observed with interest Mr Trump's dodgy shenanigans over the last few years, I doubt he could even lie straight in bed.

I don't much care what he does in America, to some extent, I guess that we all get the politicians we deserve and we live with their successes or failures; looking in from outside the tent however, I don't think that the rest of the world needs a loose cannon like Trump as a main player.



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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2015, 12:07:16 pm »
When heads are falling off and rolling around, loose cannons are wonderful.

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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2015, 01:57:21 pm »
We should judge our next candidate by their history, not by what they  happen to be saying at the time.  Trump does not have a history of being a conservative.  He has a history of saying whatever is needed at the time to close the deal.

In no way was Bush worse than Carter.  Obama has the new title.  I can't even think of how you get to Bush being worse than either of them.  that's not to say that I think all bush did was great, but really?

We have one consistent conservative left and that is Cruz.  Unfortunately, the governors who were good conservatives and would have done a fine job, are gone.  They did not get traction early enough against the Trump noise.

We have many examples in old and recent history of populations throwing the bums out in favor of something new and fresh...and very rarely does it work out well for the people.  I fear Trump would be a repeat, if not on the level of a  Robespierre or Chavez. 

Have we not had enough of ego mania in the WH?
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015, 02:01:30 pm »
http://www.snopes.com/bill-bennett-donald-trump-quote/

Not usually a snopes fan, but didn't think this sounded like Bennett.
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2015, 02:50:01 pm »
I'm almost convinced Trump is in the race as a spoiler.  My guess is so Hillary gets elected.

Here is a Washington Post article from 2011 about his donation history: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-donation-history-shows-democratic-favoritism/2011/04/25/AFDUddtE_story.html  It is 54% to the democrat party, including Rahm Emanuel and Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Of course, that leaves 46% for other parties.

I suspect he is much more entrenched in this game than people understand.  He may not have held an elected office, but I don't think he is an "outsider".

However, I lean toward the conspiracy theory side on pro sports also.  Little is left to chance by those in control when there is so much money involved in an activity.

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2015, 01:35:44 pm »
I have wondered if the Democratic party powers-that-be aren't cheering, '"Run Donald Run!!!"
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2015, 02:29:08 pm »
Have we not had enough of ego mania in the WH?

Unfortunately, only an ego maniac would even run for the office of president. All candidates have pros and cons. Some have a lot of cons... But, and I am not saying the Donald is getting my vote or would make a great president, there is only one national candidate that does not have to answer to any lobbyist or political elite. One candidate who is not taking money from someone and has to either tow the company line or repay the favor. I wish they all could be completely independent of the campaign funds but as of right now, there is only one. Like him or not, at least you know there is no one behind him pulling his strings...
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2015, 02:56:00 pm »
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Like him or not, at least you know there is no one behind him pulling his strings...

That's true. 

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Unfortunately, only an ego maniac would even run for the office of president.

To some extent, also true.  Although, I think there is a difference between being very self confident and believing you can do a good job, and being completely self focused. 
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2015, 03:37:03 pm »
I think Trump was watching the end of a great capitalist country that gave him the means to make billions, and is trying to halt the destruction and socialism of that country, so he can continue to pile billions on top of billions, while preserving the same for all others.
I like the idea, and if he doesn't get elected, I think he has shown other republicans what the people want and they will move away from RINO land and become more real republicans.
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2015, 04:34:32 pm »
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I think he has shown other republicans what the people want and they will move away from RINO land and become more real republicans.

He has shown them that the fear of alienating the muddy middle was stupid.  People hunger for leadership.  About the rest of it, I am not so sure.  He made billions, in part, by knowing who to support, and often as not it was leftists.  Good business in a country that has gone more and more toward crony capitalism, but not what most of us are looking for.  In this way, he is as much establishment as those the people  say they do not want as leaders.  He has played the game, just from the other end.
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Re: Interesting take on Donald Trump
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2015, 07:49:18 pm »
Interesting to see Putin's take one the matter today...