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Offline salvo

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DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« on: December 04, 2015, 11:44:47 pm »
Hi Folks,

Talking today and this phrase came up. The guy said: "I bet if someone filed a bill to disarm all Muslims that the entire left would be up in arms DEFENDING the Second Amendment for Muslims"! "YOU CAN"T DO THAT! They have a right...blah blah blah.

Last night I watched CNN as they were debating gun control. The actual vote did not pass. Never let a good crisis go to waste.  "near-unanimous GOP opposition".

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/senate-gop-votes-terrorist-gun-bill-article-1.2454448

I went to the TSA No Fly List today.

http://www.no-fly-list.com/

Punched in a bunch of names, real and made up. No matches. Don't risk putting in your own name. It may not be there now, but tomorrow it will be.

I do know of someone that IS on the no fly list. His father-in-law let it slip once when his daughter and this husband couldn't get out of Lebanon, punched in his name,..."No Match"!!!  It's all bogus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List

Read the Ted Kennedy story.

OH! The Californian shooter has an older brother who served in the US Navy, on the ACC Enterprise. He got two medals for his service AGAINST terrorists. The family seems sincere in their sorrow. It's not easy to loose a child. Imaging if they go like this.

Something does seem odd about the whole thing. When did you know the FBI to abandon a crime scene so quickly, and leave so much potential evidence? I think it's a diversion to get attention off the atrocities in Chicago. That Chicago issue is connected right to the top. It's bad.

It's not paranoia when they're really after you.

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Re: DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 07:55:11 am »
...Just 'cause you're paranoid, doesn't mean dey ain't watching you...
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 09:56:30 am »
If you are in the US and you belong to an organization that advocates the overthrow of the government of the US I think you're guilty of treason.  What if you are a member of a religion that the overthrow of the government of the US?  Isn't that adequate reason to deny you the right to keep and bear arms?
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Re: DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 01:50:13 pm »
If you are in the US and you belong to an organization that advocates the overthrow of the government of the US I think you're guilty of treason.  What if you are a member of a religion that the overthrow of the government of the US?  Isn't that adequate reason to deny you the right to keep and bear arms?

The operative phrase is "advocate the overthrow of the governmeent of United States by force". Otherwise political parties would be guilty, as well, since the Democrats seek to overthrow. The government when Republicans are in control and vice versa.  I remember when I was in college we had to take an oath each semester that was the litany, "I solemny swear that I am not a member of the Communist Party or any organization with the intent to overthrow the government of the United States by force.". They cut that out sometime in the late 1950s
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Re: DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2015, 02:04:41 pm »
That is probably the same time the Democrats started down the socialist path.  :angry:

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2015, 03:17:27 pm »
>The operative phrase is "advocate the overthrow of the governmeent of United States by force" 

I should have included that, yes.  You are correct.  But Islam, as put down by the prophet, does advocate the overthrow of any government that is not an Islamic state doesn't it?
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2015, 05:34:27 pm »
You are correct again, Mr. Bush, by any and all means and killing all who do not convert to that great religion of peace.
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Re: DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2015, 11:07:44 pm »
Ok.. i cant claim at all to be an american history buff but.. didn't you guys overthrow your then government by force back around 1776-1785?

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 06:02:33 am »
Yes, we did, and many were executed for treason. So what's your point.
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Re: DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 10:48:28 am »
Hmmm....so anyone that has a gun and who would c9nsider using it to keep the govt from taking their guns, or would consider using it to stop the government (or its agents) from legally accessing theor property...or to turn away revenuers....seems to me those are clearly motivations against (if not overthrowing) the government, and grounds for disarming, no?

I would never consider judging what someone is like based on my reading of their scriptures.  Neither the new or old testament is able to be objectively read and used as a basis to determine what Christians or jews believe and do.  From a historical perspective, something like the inquisition has nothing to do with scripture, and one would not characterize the behaviour of the participants as christian.

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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2015, 10:03:37 pm »
Hi Folks,

I heard on the news a couple of days ago that Syed Farook's mother, Rafia Farook, and father Syed Farook, were placed on the "NO FLY" list. I just checked.

NO SHE'S NOT!!!! NO HE'S NOT!!!!

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Is that actually a joke site that I'm linking to???

http://www.no-fly-list.com/

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2015, 10:24:00 pm »
""The TSA is an independent, non-government organization and is in no way affiliated with any branch of any government, corporation, individual or other entity, whether real or imaginary""

I would think it is fake. The real list should be under a government website, I would think.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2015, 11:11:41 pm »
The TSA is part of the Department of Homeland Security.  Its website is WWW.TSA.gov.

I'm not sure we can see who is on the no-fly list.  Seems to me it would be very confidential.  Besides, there are a lot of people on the no-fly list -- or names, rather -- that could apply to hundreds of people.  Like John Smith -- but they have more info on WHICH John Smith can't fly.  That's why some people are pulled aside and questioned, then allowed to fly.
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Re: DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2015, 10:01:15 am »
People came to this land to exercise their freedom of religion.  We have always been tolerant of the rights to believe or not believe in what we want.  That is what makes this country like no other.  A few hundred years later we would want to give that up?  Not me.  Most religions are based on the greater good for your fellow man.  Unfortunately they all started out selective and carry on some of that uncivilized thinking today.
If you want to disarm someone or take away their privileges to own a weapon shouldn't it be someone that is radical?  It appears that Homeland Security is incapable of doing this at a huge cost and we have a whole sector of the government dedicated to doing it.  Now how many Muslims or non Muslims in this country would be considered radical?
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Re: DISARM ALL MUSLIMS
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2015, 10:15:42 am »
in all fairness. let them be known as sans peoples