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Offline buzzbee

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We need to remove the left from Power
« on: October 11, 2015, 10:26:36 am »
After seven years of a president who failed in every way to honor and defend our Constitution, Hillary has also promised to continue this lawlessness via executive orders if elected. Joe Biden will follow suit too if elected. And Bernie Sanders? dedicated socialist.
  First and foremost on the agendas, get guns from the people.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/06/hillary-clinton-pledges-gun-control-executive-action/
Obama may try it first:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425359/obama-gun-control-executive-order-political-mistake
 Destroying the second amendment only makes it easier to make null and void the rest of the document that limits the powers granted to the federal government.

These first ten amendments were put in place to "limit" the powers of the fed. A free man was born with all rights intact. Rights are not granted via the federal government,
 A vote for this party is a vote for a more tyrannical government.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 07:55:42 pm »
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2015, 09:06:05 pm »
Yep.  The reason for the Second Amendment is to protect the other nine.  It isn't the Bill of Allowed.  It's the Bill of RIGHTS.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2015, 09:49:02 pm »
He cannot have his coronation until he removes the Constitution.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 09:19:32 am »
>He cannot have his coronation until he removes the Constitution.

So far he's just ignored it... not that Bush didn't ignore it as well... time for a Liberterian.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 02:11:52 pm »
We need more people like y'all! Bee loving,constitutional rednecks! Impeach Obama,Send Hillary to prison, and Keep Our Guns. The Bill of Rights is our most powerful weapon, and the people are realising our need to defend it!

A government large enough to provide everything you need is a government strong enough to take everything you have. -T. Jefferson
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 02:24:30 pm »
Quote from: Still Learning The Trade on October 12, 2015, 02:11:52 pm
We need more people like y'all! Bee loving,constitutional rednecks! Impeach Obama,Send Hillary to prison, and Keep Our Guns. The Bill of Rights is our most powerful weapon, and the people are realising our need to defend it!

A government large enough to provide everything you need is a government strong enough to take everything you have. -T. Jefferson

Ya got that right, Pilgrim!
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2015, 08:51:58 pm »
Quote from: Michael Bush on October 12, 2015, 09:19:32 am
>He cannot have his coronation until he removes the Constitution.

So far he's just ignored it... not that Bush didn't ignore it as well... time for a Liberterian.
I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012... I did my part...
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2021, 10:02:31 am »
Hi Folks,

How long before there's a knock on our doors?

We've reached the point where people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2021, 09:49:57 am »
You guys make me laugh.  You band together and march on the capital and then you blame the democrats for taking your gun rights away.  If you only knew how the world turns.  Government didn't come knocking on your door for your guns you ignored the constitution by supporting an insurrection.  What you just proved is you are NOT law abiding citizens therefore the second amendment is likely to change and it is YOUR fault.  Accept what you have done and don't cry about the outcome.  We still have a democracy.  The left is not in power the people are.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2021, 06:56:01 am »
Hi Folks,

See! ^You guys?^.

The cheaters are in charge now. The most corrupt politicians are in power. The fraudsters are running their scam.
 
Call yourselves what you want. You are cheaters. ^Your guys^... stole the election.

The cheaters have brought an end to the United States of America.

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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2021, 07:04:07 am »
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2021, 08:11:09 am »
And what is worse is that our whole system has been corrupted to the point that all three branches are pretending that nothing happened, or that it is too late to do anything. That means that they have total power and can do anything they want from this point on and they will.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2021, 08:51:03 am »
However. The election was fair.  Biden got the most votes. It has happened many time in our past.   It is not the end of the world.  Quit being so fearful as that is no way to live.  Thankfully democracy was not broken by the big lie of election fraud and this means you will get the same chance in four years that has happened since December 15, 1788.  There is no monster in the closet.  Some of you are old enough that you should know your crybaby feelings have been held by some of those that lose elections though out the years of history and yet most of us do just fine.  In stead of being so scared all the time, maybe you should look at the old archives of other elections and see that your feelings are not so special as they seem to you now.  It will not all be good from this point and it will not all be bad.  In four years, you get another chance.  You would be better going out and getting your voting percentage up of people who may want some of the things you think you believe in.  How many people do you know personally who did not vote for your side.  Maybe you should look in the mirror on that rather than think it is the other guys fault.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2021, 08:52:26 am »
I see quit the opposite.  There is a balance of power in both the house and senate.  The judicial branch is stacked conservative.  The incoming President is handed a bag left over from the previous republican president.  The left in power is no better then the right in power.  I am hopeful that now the middle is in power and not some deranged whacko who is giving himself a red carpet send off in light of his past failures.  And his followers are totally oblivious to his self centered behavior and manufactured faults theories. 
If the "left" should retain the presidency from here on in it will be because the whacko separated the republican party into dreamers and realist.  A bit of a pit fall having only a two party system that is predominately supported by wealth.
Unfortunately any republican that wins the nomination for the next election has to lie to retain the base.  And we as a country have had quite enough of that.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2021, 08:55:42 am »
Quote from: gww on January 19, 2021, 08:51:03 am
Maybe you should look in the mirror on that rather than think it is the other guys fault.
You mean not mimic Trump for once?
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2021, 09:00:11 am »
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I stand corrected.  There may be a monster in the closet in how much influence big money has on both side.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2021, 03:12:50 pm »
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You band together and march on the capital and then you blame the democrats for taking your gun rights away.  If you only knew how the world turns.  Government didn't come knocking on your door for your guns you ignored the constitution by supporting an insurrection.  What you just proved is you are NOT law abiding citizens therefore the second amendment is likely to change and it is YOUR fault.  Accept what you have done and don't cry about the outcome.  We still have a democracy.  The left is not in power the people are.

This amuses me.  The left has set the standard for behavior over the last year.  Riots, burning, looting, and murder are fine as long as the cause is righteous.  What no one realized was that the only righteous cause is a leftist cause.

Last count, I heard there were over 70 Trump rallies through the years.  ONE became violent and even that was mostly peaceful, which again, is the standard the left has set.  Because a few people behaved badly once, the left has its panties in a wad and has militarized the capital.  This is something they have never done in spite of the riots over the years, including the one that took place when Trump as inaugurated. Seems a bit of theator to me.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2021, 03:20:19 pm »
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However. The election was fair.  Biden got the most votes. It has happened many time in our past.   It is not the end of the world.  Quit being so fearful as that is no way to live.  Thankfully democracy was not broken by the big lie of election fraud and this means you will get the same chance in four years that has happened since December 15, 1788.  There is no monster in the closet.

You might be missing the point and the cause of the frustration.  Neither side has had faith in the election system for the last couple of decades.  We need to fix the system, and that is not done by removing the controls that ensure the system is not abused.  It is not done by removing voter ID, by changing how votes are counted, by counting votes long after the election, or by keeping observers from doing their job.  It is not done by having months of voting.  We have an election day.  We should vote on that day after proving we are eligible to vote. 

The goal should be to secure the elections in such a way that the people who lose have faith that they have lost fairly.  Right now, neither side has that faith.

Might I also point out that the left never accepted the election of Trump.  Again, the standard is set by the left, but they only want it to apply to the left.  Do not fuss that people are not happy about this election when the last 4 years were spent trying to annul the 2016 election. 
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They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: We need to remove the left from Power
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2021, 05:40:29 pm »
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I am not missing the point at all.  The left was unhappy but they did not storm the capitol and try and get the representatives to violate their oath.   Clinton did concede.  Yes, they investigated russia,  How could you not when multiple appointees were lying during their confirmations.  What were they trying to hide.   But they accepted the constitution.  I will lobby things that I don't like biden doing.  So what is there was a womens march to put pressure on trump in a bid to keep him from going too far on their issues.  That is nothing like not listening to courts and trying to change outcomes.  It is no where near the same.  Not even close.
Even on the doubts of this election.  It is not a majority thinking the election was stolen.  It is a minority trying to lift above their weight even if it disenfranchises the majority.

Also, just cause you have the perfect thoughts on what is a perfect election does not mean you are right.  You might not care about standing 8 hours in a line to vote and not care what might alleviate that.  Nobody wants to be disenfranchised.  If problems are found, they need to be addressed but not based on fears of the boogy man but based on what makes it fair for everyone.  Just cause somebody refuses to understand that counting might take longer due to things like not being able to count early votes does not mean the counting is wrong.  Every one was warned before election day that stuff was going to happen and if they chose to ignore it, too bad for them.  Disappointment does not add up to fraud and the whole thing and everyone involved being a conspiracy.

I was disappointed when trump won and did not get a majority of the nations votes but like others, accepted it till I got a new chance to vote.  At least the democrats want to change the system of vote counting even if it means  changing the constitution.  To do that is with in the system and would require support to happen but trump and his supporters are saying heck with the system.  It is much different.  Needing support gives us some say, just trying to take is stealing.
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