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Which one?
« on: July 31, 2015, 12:27:12 am »
I'm looking for a reliable 9mm single stack.  I know, they won't ever really grow up, but small is the object for concealed carry.

Glock 43, M&P Shield, XDs, ???

I lean toward the Glock, cuz it's a Glock.  But, the Shield is $100+ less and US made.  Thoughts, opinions, other suggestions...

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Re: Which one?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2015, 12:53:26 am »
Have you looked at the Glock 26. It works well in an ankle holster.
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2015, 12:42:43 pm »
I've looked at the 26, but it feels off balance to me and it has the wider grip.  The 19 feels much better to me for that range.  Concealing it is a bit more difficult and my wife doesn't like; therefore, I'm looking at a single stack.  9 vs 45 is the same.  One round with a 45 and she walks away, but with 9mm she will empty the magazine and come back for more.

My son is currently carrying a double stack sub-compact Para 45.  It is a monster grip and he is looking for something he can cover easier with his much slighter build than mine.

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Re: Which one?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2015, 12:58:07 pm »
I'd lean toward the Glock as well, a long anticipate pistol that has had no issues concerning feed, etc.. If number of rounds is an issue, single stack's only options are an extended mag or additional mags - eventough carry is not a New Jersey thing, I'd carry an extra mag giving me a full refill of 9mm instead of just one or two cartridges more.

I shot one at my range, it's a good feeling gun although for any practical use other than carry, I agree the G19 is a no brainer. Keep us informed.
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2015, 12:59:00 pm »
I never like to see men try to get women to shoot the heavy calipers. They get gun shy real quick and often do not want to shoot again. I like to hand them a 22 until they are used to shooting. Take a look at the 350's almost identical cartridge.
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2015, 05:56:32 pm »
I don't know much about hand guns, but I love my Kel-tec 32. The Kel-Tec P-11 is 9 MM. You may want to look at both before making your purchase.
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2015, 09:56:57 pm »
I was staying with the striker fire for some reason. I'll have to look at the Kel Tecs. The PF9 is their single attack, but the P11 is only 1 inch according to the spec sheet.

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Re: Which one?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2015, 10:35:35 pm »
I just got the perfect 9mm for cc. It's the ruger LC9s pro. 7+ 1 slinder frame with the pinkie grip. Perfect for CC. Safety in the trigger. No slide lever safety. I went with this one because of the frame and I have great control with it. 2.5 inchgroup at 10 meters. Smooth trigger with no hiesitation points in the pull. Prefect for in band holster or on belt. Can not identify it with a t-shirt on.

All around great gun. Price is great and I was able to put a hold against each other to get a great deal.

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Re: Which one?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2015, 11:16:21 am »
Carried a Glock 26 for a number of years and found it too big.
The width of the slide is the same as the Glock 17 (1.18"), which is wider than many handguns.(1911 under 1")
It did have the advantage that it would take factory magazines form the Glock 19 (15 rounds) and the Glock 17 (17 rounds) and of course the legendary Glock reliability.
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2015, 11:37:24 am »
I have a nice Glock 9mm, not for CC, but for fun.  and it is....but...for CC, I want something with more stopping power.  any reason you are on the 9 and not something like a compact .45?  there are a number out there that are good.
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2015, 04:14:58 pm »
Why 9mm?
1. My wife is good with it. 45, not so much
2.  There has been a lot of development in the 9mm rounds that has not been carried over to others, not even the 10mm/40.
3.  Lower cost and more available ammo.  We have a 22 handgun, but stores are always sold out; limit 1 box, 3 boxes arrive, gone in 30 seconds to those standing there when they unload the truck.  The ranges I've been to can barely get enough for their needs.

I've looked at the LC9s and shot it. I really like the smoother styling, but didn't like the trigger or sites and the machining seemed very loose.  On a new gun the slide rocked side to side and I was told that was normal and a good thing.  I said "thank you" and walked out.  On further research this seems to be a recurring issue, but not on every unit.

I also don't like the attitude of buying a gun, then replace various parts to "get it right".  That is like buying a smoker and replacing the bellows before it is ever lit because you like canvass instead of yellow plastic.  I'd rather buy the canvass one to start with, if I can.

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Re: Which one?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2015, 07:33:51 pm »
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1. My wife is good with it. 45, not so much

ah.  Teach her to empty it.   :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2015, 08:05:55 pm »
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2015, 06:17:32 pm »
Thanks for all the input.  I've decided to get the Glock 43 for carry and maybe a G19 or G23 with a 9mm barrel for the house.  Now I just have to wait until I've paid my son's next semester at TAMU. :cry:

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Re: Which one?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 05:52:51 pm »
I bought a Glock mdl. 23(.40 S&W) and then got a drop-in barrel in 9mm and a couple of mdl. 19 magazines.  I understand all Glock magazines will fit any Glock receiver, except for the .45.  I don't know if you could get something to convert a .45 to 9mm or not, but the Lone Wolf 9mm bbl. I got for my mdl 23 only cost about $100, so it gives me two guns for only a little more cash.  And 9mm ammo is a lot cheaper and more pleasant to shoot.

As for choice, I'd go to a range, rent several guns and buy the one you enjoy shooting. 

My next addition probably will be a grip-mounted Crimson Trace laser sight.  That would allow accurate defensive shooting from any position without having to get in a Weaver stance.

There will always be an argument over big, heavy bullets versus light fast bullets.  When I used to carry a Chief's special in a shoulder holster I alternated 200-grain bullets and Super Vels (does that date me?) because I wasn't convinced either way.  Now I like the .40 for defensive concealed carry because it's closer to a .45 in performance than a 9mm.  But, like you say, there are some good loads for the 9mm.

After Jan. 1, we can elect to carry open in Texas.  I probably won't ever do that, but at least if my gun is exposed, it won't be a problem.  And in the summer heat, it's hard to conceal a weapon, so who knows?  I'm definitely getting a good belt holster.  Now, I carry in a leather messenger bag and hate it for lack of accessibility.
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Re: Which one?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2015, 05:04:08 am »
Open carry in my area is as common as going to the grocery store. No one pays that much attention to a pistol on the hip, even in the local Wal Mart or Burger King. For me, the 1911 has proven itself over many years and many war's.
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2015, 08:41:49 am »
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2015, 01:53:18 pm »
I support open carry but wont do it. I don't want some creep who plans to rob the store I'm in to pick me out as his first casualty. If I don't know he has a gun I sure as heck don't want him to know I have one..   :wink:
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