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Offline LKBruns

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Nail gun and Staple gun
« on: September 02, 2014, 05:48:11 pm »
I am a first time beekeeper.  I will be purchasing my hives in the spring.  I have family members who are really good carpenters so we are going to make it a family project to build our own supers. (I have already purchased the hive bodies)  However, we are hammer and nail workers.  I feel like a nail gun and staple gun would work quicker and better for making square corners.

Can anyone give me suggestions as to what nail gun I can use on 6D nails. And what staples I should use on my frames.  I watched the Fat Beeman's videos but I cannot tell what type or model he is using (It looks like it works really good)

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2014, 08:55:04 pm »
I got mine at harbor freight.  didn't pay to much for it and it's worked well for 5 years.  what i did spend money on was a nice compressor  :-D

the hive body and frame wood are pretty soft, so it's an easy shot.
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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2014, 09:57:03 pm »
If you get a 1/4" crown stapler and some 1 1/2" staples (or longer if the gun will take them) these work nicely for boxes.  Get some 1" staples for the frames...
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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2014, 08:31:06 pm »
Don't forget the tightbond II wood glue.

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 09:26:19 pm »
I have used nails and staples both on bodies.  The last set I really got crazy and used deck screws with the screw gun. 

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2014, 06:59:49 am »
Don't forget the tightbond II wood glue.






I use Tightbond 111 it's supposed to be waterproof.

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2014, 04:23:34 pm »
I use Tightbond III as well, plus I "size" the raw exposed crossgrain on the ends (Smear glue on exposed end wood, allow to dry before painting.  I think it is worth the extra expense and time, the boxes I have done that to are holding up very well in comparison to the boxes that came preassembled.

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2015, 08:55:34 pm »
You guys are right. I don't know my tightbond II from III.

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2015, 07:13:07 am »
I use Thightbond II and it holds up real well for building hives and frames.
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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2015, 09:15:15 pm »
I use Thightbond II and it holds up real well for building hives and frames.
Jim

Second that, maybe I'm just cheap, and maybe I just think water doesn't get to all that joint or maybe both.

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2015, 06:18:54 pm »
I use Tite Bond II for all my hive components and 1 1/4 inch brad nails.
The nails act as a clamp as the glue dries.
I have not had the glue fail to hold.
I use 3/4 inch long 1/4 inch crown staples for fastening the metal to the tops.
I got my nail guns from http://www.CPO.com refurbished air tools.
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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2015, 10:04:28 pm »
I use the staples, 1 1/2 inch on hive bodies, 1 inch on frames.  I ran across some liquid nails calk cheap and have been using it in the seam.
Capt  I did get my stapler, Hitachi, from CPO outlet.  It was an opened box, not refurbished.  Have ordered other things from them also.
I use the stapler for lots of things not to do with bees also.




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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2015, 12:19:39 am »
I use Tite Bond II for all my hive components and 1 1/4 inch brad nails.
The nails act as a clamp as the glue dries.
I have not had the glue fail to hold.
I use 3/4 inch long 1/4 inch crown staples for fastening the metal to the tops.
I got my nail guns from http://www.CPO.com refurbished air tools.
You got your staple gun from a science equipment vendor?

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2015, 08:22:40 am »
This guy is awesome, learned this one about the brad gun. Just wanted to pass it along.

http://www.ibuildit.ca/Workshop%20Projects/Shop%20Tricks/tricks-44.html

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2015, 10:41:14 am »
Remember to always be aware of where the hand that is *not* holding the nail/staple gun is positioned.  If you have your hand placed on a piece of wood directly opposite from where you have the gun positioned...well, it could be a really painful experience.  Staples and nails will veer off the intended course at times...give them a little safety distance between them and your flesh.   :cry:

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2015, 01:03:07 am »
Remember to always be aware of where the hand that is *not* holding the nail/staple gun is positioned.  If you have your hand placed on a piece of wood directly opposite from where you have the gun positioned...well, it could be a really painful experience.  Staples and nails will veer off the intended course at times...give them a little safety distance between them and your flesh.   :cry:

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You can say that again. About 15 years ago I was building my master bedroom walls on the ground before putting them up. I tried to shoot a nail in a down ward angle into the top corner of the header board. When I fired the framing nail gun, the nail did not go into the wood. At first I did not know where it went. I had used my knee to hold the 2x4 down about a foot from the gun. I looked for the nail and found it in my knee. It was buried all the way to where the glue was that held the nails together. I pulled it out. Cleaned it up and went back to work. That night I had it checked out and the next day had surgery to remove the damaged section.
Not a lot of fun.
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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2015, 01:58:37 am »
This guy is awesome, learned this one about the brad gun. Just wanted to pass it along.

http://www.ibuildit.ca/Workshop%20Projects/Shop%20Tricks/tricks-44.html

That has GOT to be the best thing I have learnt since Sex Ed at school.
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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2015, 02:02:01 pm »
This guy is awesome, learned this one about the brad gun. Just wanted to pass it along.

http://www.ibuildit.ca/Workshop%20Projects/Shop%20Tricks/tricks-44.html

That has GOT to be the best thing I have learnt since Sex Ed at school.

Looks like there would be a market for double chisel tip nails.  Now, if I could only hit the center of the board..... :shocked:

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Re: Nail gun and Staple gun
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2015, 07:23:16 am »
Good tips Wombat. Thanks for sharing.
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