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Re: 100% total hypocrites
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2019, 03:58:43 pm »
Border patrol and "Other than Mexican".  It is the abbreviation the BP uses.  If you look at their site, which I guess you have not done, it is explained.
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2019, 05:42:43 pm »
oops.
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« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2019, 09:06:54 am »
If you look at their site,

Why would I?
Ah oh!

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The priority mission of the Border Patrol is preventing terrorists and terrorists weapons, including weapons of mass destruction, from entering the United States. Undaunted by scorching desert heat or freezing northern winters, they work tirelessly as vigilant protectors of our Nation's borders.

How many terrorists and weapons of mass destruction did they find among the caravan people?

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Re: 100% total hypocrites
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2019, 09:59:01 am »
Quote Ace. 
 "How many terrorists and weapons of mass destruction did they find among the caravan people?"

We don't know, it's Top Secret!!  :wink:
Remember, Eric Holder didn't want us knowing what was going on at the border... President Trump is still working to weed out President Obama failed policies. They will let us know soon.. Just be happy we have a President that finally puts Ace first!! 😊😁

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« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2019, 11:57:12 am »
They have been culling out dangerous bad guys along the route to the border.  Well publicised policy for those willing to read, those who rely on the MSM, not so much.

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« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2019, 12:11:06 pm »
""How many terrorists and weapons of mass destruction did they find among the caravan people?""

Many more than 1, but 1 was too many to open the border and let them all in.
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Re: 100% total hypocrites
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2019, 12:34:14 pm »
... Just be happy we have a President that finally puts Ace first!! 😊😁

My turn for "The Morning Laugh". Good one! ... but does Ace appreciate it?

Cheers!
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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2019, 12:36:16 pm »
... Just be happy we have a President that finally puts Ace first!! 😊😁

My turn for "The Morning Laugh". Good one! ... but does Ace appreciate it?

Cheers!

Probably more than he will ever admit or we will ever know!! Ah ha haa haaaa!!

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« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2019, 03:16:16 pm »
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How many terrorists and weapons of mass destruction did they find among the caravan people?

1st, the site does not have to be updated for you to access the data, but I know, that's like work or something.

I am not sure the point you are trying to make about the caravans.  Is it your position that if no terrorists are found among them they should all be let in? 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2019, 02:53:51 am »
we read in the news that a lot of offices are not in work in the US. I never thought this could hang by the thread of a decision in the houses.
In Germany, officials are usually in job for life and I am sure they will get paid and work on no matter what the government is doing. so continuity on a working level is always given, no matte who the top heads are or are not.
Hire and fire, sort of?

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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2019, 08:55:26 am »
It?s because the people love entertainement and the more some persons make a fool of themselves, or others, the more they are loved.
Now his entertainement is a problem because he is a politician. He seems not to know his power, which makes people fear him.

There is a whole lot he doesn't know.  Most assuredly his limits.  One thing you have to be careful of in the entertainment world is that you can go from riches to rags as fast as you went from rags to riches.  He assumes because of his money he will always be protected.
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« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2019, 09:05:23 am »
I never thought this could hang by the thread of a decision in the houses.

It can't be a single decision.  There are three areas of power.  Two have to outnumber the third which is why the republicans will suffer dearly in 2020.  I hate this two party system but our government is a spin off from Europe which basically has the same thing.  The best system is no parties with no outside financial influence.  Not realistic.
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« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2019, 09:11:34 am »
Is it your position that if no terrorists are found among them they should all be let in?

Noooooo, if there are no terrorists found among them then sending the military to the boarder is like wiping out a country because you think there are weapons of mass destruction.  Don't you think we should stop doing that?  Secondly, shouldn't the 45th stop using it as a reason for building a WALL?
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« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2019, 09:40:51 am »
I never thought this could hang by the thread of a decision in the houses.

It can't be a single decision.  There are three areas of power.  Two have to outnumber the third which is why the republicans will suffer dearly in 2020.  I hate this two party system but our government is a spin off from Europe which basically has the same thing.  The best system is no parties with no outside financial influence.  Not realistic.

Now there you go again Ace, You know we have a constitution protecting us from a no party, Ternary situation. Man you sure love a good debate!! Ah haa haa haa
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Re: 100% total hypocrites
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2019, 03:27:58 pm »
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Noooooo, if there are no terrorists found among them then sending the military to the boarder is like wiping out a country because you think there are weapons of mass destruction.  Don't you think we should stop doing that?  Secondly, shouldn't the 45th stop using it as a reason for building a WALL?

Protection of our border is not just about terrorists, although if I was a terrorist wanting in that would be the way I'd come.  It's not just about criminals, although anyone coming in illegally is a criminal.

It is about the severity of a county and the protection of its legal citizens.  Protection does not just have to be about crime.  We have a fair number of people both legal immigrants and born citizens, and our kids, who are starting out at the bottom of the wage scale. They need jobs, inexpensive housing, and education.  Every illegal that is at the bottom of the wage scale, which is most of those coming across the southern border, competes in those same markets.

Is our duty to those here legally and those starting out or is it to people who sneak in?  They are not fleeing war or famine.  They are fleeing the results from the governments they elected. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: 100% total hypocrites
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2019, 03:33:21 pm »
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  They are fleeing the results from the governments they elected.

That?s an interesting argument because if this would be true half of the worlds inhabitants were on a flight. Of all counties and nations.

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« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2019, 06:17:34 pm »
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That?s an interesting argument because if this would be true half of the worlds inhabitants were on a flight. Of all counties and nations.

I think probably more than half.  There are not too many true dictatorships left.  Most are communist.  Some are Islamist.  Those people have no choice in who runs them or what is done.  For everyone else, they vote for those who lead them.  In many cases, they voted in people who promised them more stuff and didn't deliver or bankrupted their country in the process.  The governments are corrupt and crime is high.

this might be sad, but it is not something that should become the problem of the surrounding countries.

The other thing about it is that if these people are fleeing lawlessness, it does no county any good to condone the lawless entry of those breaking in.  If lawlessness and corruption go hand in hand, what happens to the rest of us when we begin to condone it?
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2019, 08:01:42 pm »
And now, with another convoy of migrants heading north from Central America, how will they be dealt with?  How will Mexico deal with them at its southern border?  It has been difficult for Mexico to find a place to shelter those already massed on the Mexican side of the U.S. frontier.  Seems to me it would be wise for Mexico to shut down its border, and for the United States to assist Mexico however Mexico may desire it, to prevent more people from packing into the border area.  Sooner or later, critical mass could result in an explosive situation.  Mexico may be less gentle with migrants under such conditions than some of our left-wing activists would like.

Another point to consider is the fact that these migrants must be carrying a considerable amount of cash or valuables that Mexico?s criminal element may find attractive.  If they are fleeing gangs in Guatemala and Honduras, the gangs of Mexico will be just as terrifying to them, I suspect.  Is Mexico supposed to provide security for the migrants, when it is unable to do so for its own citizens?  Certain cities in Mexico are like going into area of Detroit or Chicago (oh, yeah, we can?t mention that.  MSM doesn?t acknowledge there are problems in those cities that rival those in Beirut at its worst).
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« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2019, 08:54:35 pm »
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and for the United States to assist Mexico however Mexico may desire it,

we are helping.  We are also sending millions to all the corrupt countries in the hope they will use it to solve their own problems.  My suggestion is that we stop funding these countries and their corruption.  Use the money to build whatever we need to secure our own border and bigger detention camps for those who do get in.
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2019, 09:24:42 am »
That would be a great plan Kathy if we weren't the one teaching them bribes, graft and corruption.  Nothing we have done is for the benefit of the countries we have "helped" since WW2 and it is getting worse.
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