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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: Potential new apiary
« Last post by sawdstmakr on January 20, 2018, 09:00:34 am »
Omni,
Why are you worried about her land and what is on it? Bees do not obey land rights.
Draw a 3 mile ring around where you would place your hives and see what is available.
Jim
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: Australian sugar ants
« Last post by sawdstmakr on January 20, 2018, 08:55:35 am »
I have sugar ants here at my farm. They like to make long trains of 🐜s along my fences. I have never had any of them bother my hives. I have a hard time keeping out the carpenter 🐜s. I have inverted cups under the legs to try to stop them. All it takes I one blade of grass to make a bridge/ramp.
Jim
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Honey spinning method
« Last post by sawdstmakr on January 20, 2018, 08:47:35 am »
I actually already have access to one of those. I also have some scratch uncapping tools; are they effective as well? They both came in a package I bought ages ago but have never known what to do with them.

I thought that the advantage to a radial extractor was that, it can spin both ways, which is needed to empty both sides of the frame. Is this mistaken?
In a radial extractor the top of the frames are on the outside of the ring. All of the honey leaves the frame towards the top. Direction of spin does not matter.
On the other extractors the flat side of the frame is facing out. You have to reverse the frames, usually several times to get all the honey out from both sides.
Jim
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Bee genetics
« Last post by sawdstmakr on January 20, 2018, 08:40:19 am »
Bill,
3 years with no bees in the US!
We would put our fruit growers out of business. We would only have imported fruit at a very high price.
Won't happen.
I did hear that India could not afford to treat their bees when varroa first hit them and it took 3 years to get their hives back to full level with no treatment.
Jim
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Honey spinning method
« Last post by Acebird on January 20, 2018, 08:35:53 am »
I thought that the advantage to a radial extractor was that, it can spin both ways, which is needed to empty both sides of the frame. Is this mistaken?

Any extractor can spin both ways if the control is made to do so.  There is a very slight advantage for a radial to do this if the honey is extremely thick.  In most cases honey at room temperature will spin out completely even if only going in one direction.
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Aggressive bees with potent stingers
« Last post by Acebird on January 20, 2018, 08:27:38 am »
I've been going through great hassle to remove stingers, it's particularly bothersome when they get in my suit as I have to get out to remove it. If the venom does run out so quickly,
It does but it is not just the venom that is a concern.  The longer the stinger is in the wound the greater the chance of germs getting under the skin.  Some of the after reaction can be staff or any other infection the body has to combat.  Staff can kill.  The sooner you can get the stinger out the better regardless if the venom sac is empty.  If you are taking a lot of stings you should wash your suit because the pheromone left behind could be the reason you are taking a lot of stings.  Secondly, any germs on the suit will be deposited under your skin when the suit gets penetrated.
Most people intentionally taking stings don't have suits on.
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Aggressive bees with potent stingers
« Last post by omnimirage on January 20, 2018, 04:26:18 am »
Good to clarify thanks.
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Bee genetics
« Last post by eltalia on January 20, 2018, 03:02:03 am »

Here in the northern US the biggest selective pressures are winter and Varroa.

Granted Michael... and therein lies a scientific approach to restoring
ye days of olde for the Americas - ban the beekeeper :-))
Like, put some thought to campaigning for the removal of ALL managed Apis
for say 3 years (?) with a restocking program to begin then, using
only the local mongrels with transport across borders being highly selective.
Within 10 years you guys would be back where y'all were prior to '87..!
And just think of the global good a pulsating import market for honey
the USA could create..?.. win win, hey ;-)))

Bill
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Aggressive bees with potent stingers
« Last post by eltalia on January 20, 2018, 02:31:18 am »
@omnimirage sayed; "If the venom does run out so quickly, then it wouldn't be worth trying to remove it if it takes for example more than half a minute."

The muscles around the sacs can be seen pumping with the naked eye - or at least back when one could - and
that time has never been counted by myself, but from tissue reactive within some body zones I'd say at least
60seconds, maybe as much as 180.

This guy did some work I lean to agreeing with, mainly because of his venom container selection. The pain
levels charted are also pretty close to my own experience.
https://peerj.com/articles/338/
"A sting from a honey bee is familiar to many because of its world-wide distribution. The sting can be reliably provoked, and standardized, making it an ideal experimental stimulus."

The point of the exercise I laid out is that there are two stages, the second phase being the crescendo of pain
levels until the venom pumps in whereon swelling occurs, and for many that pain of swelling is greater than
the whole of the initial event, and way more enduring.... days for some folk I have known.
Hence prevention (scraping off) is the path to confidence.

Bill
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Honey spinning method
« Last post by omnimirage on January 20, 2018, 01:29:28 am »
I actually already have access to one of those. I also have some scratch uncapping tools; are they effective as well? They both came in a package I bought ages ago but have never known what to do with them.

I thought that the advantage to a radial extractor was that, it can spin both ways, which is needed to empty both sides of the frame. Is this mistaken?
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