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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Buckwheat
« Last post by Nock on July 12, 2020, 01:06:40 pm »
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Yep y?all were right. Bees were busy this morning.
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: how long to wait
« Last post by iddee on July 12, 2020, 11:57:22 am »
""I'd usually give them a few days to a week to settle in to their new surroundings and the stress from transporting them home etc before any transfer.""

Yep, and upset them again for a few days when at their weakest.........

""As for when to transfer them into a full size hive I would wait until they are strong in numbers and covering most if not all of the 5 frames then do the change over on a warm day with good weather.""

If they are not already there, leave them at the breeders and find a new source for bees,

Sooooo many new bees have forgotten the excluder during a dearth, IE: winter, and when the bees move up to the honey stores, the queen stays below and perishes, right when it is hardest to replace her.  It is best to have a couple or 3 years experience before using them.


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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: HERE'S A GOOD QUESTION
« Last post by Ben Framed on July 12, 2020, 11:22:06 am »
We hired Mr Trump to drain the Swamp. Ask yourself why didn?t he?
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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: HERE'S A GOOD QUESTION
« Last post by Ben Framed on July 12, 2020, 11:19:36 am »
That's the very question the republicans are asking. Why ask for capital punishment for jaywalking? It just doesn't make sense, which is the norm for libs.

Because they hate America. And anyone who will stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. When it?s a Democrat, Grand Theft Auto is overlooked.
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: how long to wait
« Last post by Garigal on July 12, 2020, 10:24:06 am »
Here's a link to a free pdf guide to beekeeping in Australia published by the Rural Industries Research and Development Corporation, now Agrifutures Australia, and as good as any book you could buy here.

https://www.agrifutures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/publications/14-098.pdf
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I have seen some of his videos, I have met him in person, and agree with a lot of what he preaches.  I realize he is a successful commercial beekeeper in a location that poses some hurdles.  He talks about back yard beekeeping but he does not understand the goal because he a solid commercial beekeeper with unwavering goals.  Learn what you can from him but don't think he is prophet.  His beekeeping is not fun.
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: how long to wait
« Last post by Garigal on July 12, 2020, 09:53:41 am »
Yeah or just follow the advice from most of our state based Primary Industries Departments that has worked here in Australia for decades where we have a lot less beekeeping problems than the rest of the world.
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: how long to wait
« Last post by Acebird on July 12, 2020, 09:39:28 am »
Follow Iddee's advice.
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: how long to wait
« Last post by Garigal on July 12, 2020, 09:35:12 am »
I'd usually give them a few days to a week to settle in to their new surroundings and the stress from transporting them home etc before any transfer.

Main thing is to not let them over heat in the car and never leave a nuc in direct sun while the entrance is still closed.

If you need to keep them in for any period of time a cool shady place is best and water can be sprayed on the vent openings as required.

As for when to transfer them into a full size hive I would wait until they are strong in numbers and covering most if not all of the 5 frames then do the change over on a warm day with good weather.

Usually just put the 5 frames in the centre of the hive in the same order they came out of the nuc and fill the remaining space with frames of foundation. push all frames together tightly. Reduce the entrance.

Also you can pack them all to one side and fill the dead space with some sort of dummy board so the bees don't have too much space to manage too soon and add frames as required. This approach can help where SHB or cold snaps are a problem.

Add a second box once bees have built out at least 8 frames as adding it sooner they may ignore the outer two frames. Using an excluder with a super full of fresh foundation the bees can be reluctant to move up, they can be encouraged to move up by pulling a frame or two of brood up above the excluder but just make sure the queen isn't on that frame or shake all the bees off before lifting. Replace those brood frames with new frames.

Can also not use an excluder until they start drawing the frames then shake them all down below the excluder although you risk having a generation of brood hatching from frames you will be extracting later, that may not worry you though.
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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: HERE'S A GOOD QUESTION
« Last post by iddee on July 12, 2020, 09:25:11 am »
That's the very question the republicans are asking. Why ask for capital punishment for jaywalking? It just doesn't make sense, which is the norm for libs.
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