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Salty
I see a good brood pattern. I see wax being built. I see lots of bees. They are not really for a super. If you have a good flow on, check them in 10 days. It is possible that there is not enough wax on some of those plasticell frames. Looked like they were building above the plastic on one side of one of them. Then I saw another one that wax being drawn out perfectly. If they are all brand new from the same source, they should be ok.
Jim Altmiller
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thanks for the welcomes.
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Jim do you build your own boxes?  If so, do you use the  dove tail joint? Also what glue do you use? Thanks, Phillip
Ben,
I originally built all of my boxes. Then I bought a large stock of medium boxes so since then I have not had to build any more.
I made an adjustable finger joint jig that works very well. The plans are here on BeeMaster. If anyone wants them, I will do a search and see if I can find it.
I still make Nuc boxes and when I use solid boards, I use rabbit joints. Much easier and I use deck screws. Makes it so that you can take them apart and store them.
Jim Altmiller
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Hi Bill,
interesting topic.
Down our way the pofessional keepers of bees seem to be off fume boards. The seem to use the escape boards. They have the equipment to lift honey supers and slip a board under the day before.
Some years ago they used large blowers with some success.

My mentor, over 40 years ago, used a fume board with Artificial Oil of Almond . I do think this practice was banned years back.

Myself - with 40 or so hives in total have used the brush for many years.
This year, encouraged by a friend, I purchased a Makita Blower - the battery type. Works well for a small set-up.

Soem years ago I enquired about the Fishers product . The manufacturer told me then that it was not permitted in OZ.

Looking forward to the discussion and facts
keep well
max
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G'day... thanks for dropping by. ;-))

As it happens in Life we(royal) get very comfortable with what works and often
will defend that position vigorously. Yet change happens, ocassionly causing
us(royal) to pause to think on the place of our practices/beliefs against that
wave of "this is the new way, your way is redundant against improved methods".
So it is I throw a topic out there in search of veracity for the statement "you
are poisoning bees".

The backstory (paraphrased) goes like;
A very small part of my offline interest in developments around apiary
management is to accept invites to seminars/workshops. It was during one
of these engagements over the Easter break I delivered my rote "How to
succeed at Rescue for Cutouts and Trapouts".
All went well up until the point on producing the spraybottle loaded with
Phenol(tm). A heckler - every crowd has one - interjected with "you are killing
the bees using that poison". Ignoring the temptation to focus on his freshly
ironed beesuit (in denying (eltalia) speakup) I was making some progress
through heavy yards in quieting the interjector who's main claim to fame was
his qualification as an Allied Health Naturopath, g'mnt employed, up until
another spoke up to offer carbolic acid crystal use for fume boards has been
banned in Australia.
I am not aware of such a ban and so was forced to backout in using reference
to commercialy available product as an option for clearing agent.
Now not all of those are available in Australia so I was well outside my comfort
level, and so promised myself to checkout these products at the first chance.
I am surprised at what I found in just a quick logical search.
Sooo if it helps someone else *and* brings out any other points in any
discussion then I guess the only loser is to be that heckler.

References I found;


Jim (sawdustmaker) writes on clearing chemicals used;
"My bee supplier carries Beedun. It works but not as good as bee quick.
She used to carry the Bee Quick but it melts the plastic and the
manufacture refused to change the spray bottle. I have been keeping
 the Beedun bottles so that when i find Bee Quick i can switch the bottles."


https://trademark.trademarkia.com/beequick-85231689.html
Fischer's trademark for BeeQuick.


https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=37998.0
Discussion within BMA on the use of BeeQuick

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/#query=carbolic%20acid
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/butyric_acid
Chemists description of base compound for Phenyl/Phenol


https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-phenol-and-carbolic-acid-on-basis-of-number-of-OH-groups-attached-to-benzene-ring

http://www.apiculture.co.za/cgi-bin/books-read.pl?s=2004%20June%20-%20Harvesting%20Honey&book=pinknotes-db.txt
This American b'keep waxes lyrical on the topic of removing beeless supers
 for extraction and mentions all fume board products.


Cheers...

Bill
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: What's flowering: Victoria
« Last post by Milo on Today at 06:33:17 am »
Ironbark
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Some Wattle - in this case ?flinders rangers? Wattle blooming heavily and the bees are working it for pollen
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: What's flowering: Victoria
« Last post by Milo on Today at 06:29:21 am »
Light autumn flowering of callistemon
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Good flowering of black box
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REQUEENING & RAISING NEW QUEENS / Re: Nicot Queen Rearing
« Last post by Ben Framed on Today at 06:03:32 am »
htt8ps://images.app.goo.gl/HC7yNZurfq9YiHGb9.  That is link to honey bee life cycle chart. Queen cell is capped at day 9

Thanks Ed/La
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REQUEENING & RAISING NEW QUEENS / Re: Nicot Queen Rearing
« Last post by Ben Framed on Today at 06:02:07 am »
Hi Philip,
they will start right away. After one day is a good time to inspect and you will see them drawing out the cells quite clearly. some beeks will remove any not accepted cells and move the accepted ones into the middle of the cell-holder frame.

Thanks blackforest, that sounds good. I have a total of 30 cups on two bars in one frame. I had 110 cups on the grid. I left the grid in place in the breeder hive. This leaves me a window of opportunity to replace any non accepted cups by simply retrieving more from the grid if needed? I do not see where that would be a problem being  several of the cups left in the grid, were still in the egg stage and had yet to hatch or have royal jelly added as of yesterday. Perhaps tomorrow many of those will be hatched and have royal jelly applied and should be ready to go if needed? Thanks for your reply
Phillip
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REQUEENING & RAISING NEW QUEENS / Re: Nicot Queen Rearing
« Last post by ed/La. on Today at 05:56:13 am »
https://images.app.goo.gl/HC7yNZurfq9YiHGb9.  That is link to honey bee life cycle chart. Queen cell is capped at day 9
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