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MEMBER & GUEST INTERACTION SECTION => THE 2ND AMENDMENT => Topic started by: Ben Framed on January 24, 2020, 06:54:04 pm

Title: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: Ben Framed on January 24, 2020, 06:54:04 pm
Quite a number of citizens made it a point to demonstrate that the Second Amendment is to compromised no further by the Constitution Busters in Virginia. Is the Governor and squad still insisting on more second amendment tyranny?
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: Acebird on January 25, 2020, 09:48:12 am
Ben try to learn something from history.  If by some stretch of the imagination you could eliminate the second amendment from our constitution all it would do is turn law abiding citizens into criminals.  Just like prohibition, the use of mary jane, and abortion.  None of these changes will affect what they outlaw.  Secondly, the corruption of our present white house administration has all but eliminated the other two branches of government to the point that the written constitution is meaningless.
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: incognito on January 25, 2020, 10:12:21 am
Brian,
I have to admit that I have a hard time trying to understand the points you make in your posts.
The people have the inalienable right to defend themselves against criminals with ill intent or governments with ill intent. Protecting free speech is nice. Protecting the power of people with meaningful force is crucial.

Why every discussion pivots to Trump baffles me.

As far as I can tell, the Constitution is functioning just as the founders intended it to through today's events. It may be ugly and messy, but we have a less than perfect system doing its job whatever the less than perfect outcome is. Have faith in the system.
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: jvalentour on January 25, 2020, 01:25:12 pm
There is an election in November in Virginia.  I suppose the voters will make some changes.
We do have interference from the Soros groups to be concerned about, but the ultimate decisions will be made by the voters. 
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: iddee on January 25, 2020, 02:14:17 pm
NO, Joe. The ultimate decision will be made by the vote COUNTERS.
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: jvalentour on January 25, 2020, 03:18:24 pm
I haven't read anything about mass voter fraud in Virginia.  I wouldn't put it past Gov. Blackface to try and tip the scales (with Soros $).

Perhaps the NRA and other gun rights groups should spend some time before the election cleaning up the voter rolls in Virginia just in case.
I know from first hand experience, the NRA won Ohio for DJT in 2016.

Attached is an image of Virginia 2A Sanctuary counties. 
https://www.google.com/search?q=virginia+gun+sanctuary+counties+map&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ACYBGNQlqXM3xgmyW2uy82nMoWvdvHnx7Q:1579979439784&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=6DDuZFiO0bqOYM%253A%252CEKumvIHmPBQK5M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQQHFfDtiunoI99LeyyGdg9a15FSQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiv1oqKup_nAhXSF80KHUlVAHgQ9QEwA3oECAoQCg#imgrc=6DDuZFiO0bqOYM:
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: CoolBees on January 25, 2020, 03:25:54 pm
Ben try to learn something from history.  If by some stretch of the imagination you could eliminate the second amendment from our constitution ... ...

.. Then you would end up with a Tyrannical government and a New World Record on Dead People (killed by said gov.). Probably in excess of 100 million dead. Why? Because we in America have a habit of taking things to new [previously un-imagined] heights. ... thought I'd mention it - since we're studying history now ...
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: salvo on January 26, 2020, 09:43:15 pm
Hi Folks,

This is next.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLU3nPBjvFM&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3E5r0APu-wvjVXSs9KFbxmdxQy9_JvGHrSuiQtC3pI_S30nkUnn5kSGdg

Sal
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: CoolBees on January 26, 2020, 10:14:05 pm
Good video. Dark times Salvo. Dark times.
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: sawdstmakr on January 26, 2020, 10:43:24 pm
Thank god you have one good senator.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: Acebird on January 27, 2020, 09:01:49 am
Have faith in the system.
It is not healthy to have faith in a system that is not working as intended.
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: iddee on January 27, 2020, 11:19:30 am
Careful, Ace. You may have accidentally said the truth there.
Title: Re: What's Next In Virginia?
Post by: incognito on January 27, 2020, 11:32:43 am
Brian,
There is a difference between the system not functioning substantially as intended and the system not producing the outcome that we want.
What is not healthy is not being able to accept an outcome contrary to our own wishes. There seems to be a lot of that going around.

When both sides complain about an outcome it sometimes indicates that the outcome was indeed fair.
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There is certainly room for improvement in our system.