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Title: The current state of politics
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Title: Re: The current state of politics
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Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: CoolBees on December 12, 2019, 03:54:00 pm
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Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 12, 2019, 11:13:34 pm
Wow. So accurate....
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 13, 2019, 09:20:01 am
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WOW, the neo-cons must be really really worried. I wonder how much G&T paid for that lot? :rolleyes: But then again he probably deducted it. :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 13, 2019, 09:43:09 am
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WOW, the neo-cons must be really really worried. I wonder how much G&T paid for that lot? :rolleyes: But then again he probably deducted it. :cheesy:

HaHa Yes you are right Cider, again we agree. The neocons have been worried for quite some time, ever since Mr Trump got elected and even before, remember George HW giving the cut throat sign toward Mr Trump at the debate?  Just like the rest of the crooks are worried,  both democrats and republicans, especially  (neocon republicans).  But We The People are excited. We want the swamp drained. The lies and deceit spewed by both sides are coming to the surface! Mr Trump knows what he is doing. He has suckered the crooked suckers. Good job Mr Trump you have taken many cheap shots for your country and We, The People, thank you Sir!  Drain the swamp!

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Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: iddee on December 13, 2019, 10:14:19 am
Hey, Cider, how many deductions do you refuse to take just so you can pay more taxes?
No need to answer, We already know.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 13, 2019, 10:16:30 am
Hey, Cider, how many deductions do you refuse to take just so you can pay more taxes?
No need to answer, We already know.

 :wink:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 13, 2019, 10:24:17 am
Iddee, it looks like the cat has gotten our English-friends tongue!  ha ha 
Cider if you are waiting on Ace forget it! He has bugged out!
 :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: kathyp on December 13, 2019, 10:40:24 am
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WOW, the neo-cons must be really really worried.

I don't think you understand what a neo-con is.  They are generally republicans that are warmongers.  They are usually socially liberal but want to make war on everyone.  In other words, they are liberals who didn't like the pacifist leanings of the Dems years ago, and switched parties.  They can now switch back because the Dems are more in tune with them than the Republicans.  The reason they became never Trumpers is that Trump made it a part of his policy to withdraw from wars that were not ours and were pointless. 
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 13, 2019, 03:00:35 pm
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WOW, the neo-cons must be really really worried.

I don't think you understand what a neo-con is.  They are generally republicans that are warmongers.  They are usually socially liberal but want to make war on everyone.  In other words, they are liberals who didn't like the pacifist leanings of the Dems years ago, and switched parties.  They can now switch back because the Dems are more in tune with them than the Republicans.  The reason they became never Trumpers is that Trump made it a part of his policy to withdraw from wars that were not ours and were pointless.
You only need to look at the tone of the videos to see the neo-con republicanism ousing out. You don't like being tarred with the neo brush, unfortunately for you, the neo's are the republican party. It's in the blood. :rolleyes: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy: 
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 13, 2019, 03:27:30 pm
Hey, Cider, how many deductions do you refuse to take just so you can pay more taxes?
No need to answer, We already know.
Gift tax to a charity, I don't receive anything but the charity gets back the tax they would have paid on my donation. A small amount I know but when thousands do the same it can be substantial. :smile:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: iddee on December 13, 2019, 03:51:15 pm
???????  Charities here don't pay taxes. How crude are you Londoners, anyway?

PS.  Trump gives his whole salary to charity.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Geoff on December 13, 2019, 05:34:17 pm

  You are like the Australia Blue Heeler dog Wally, just get your teeth into a leg and hang on in there  !  !
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: iddee on December 13, 2019, 05:42:55 pm
 :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:  Here it's the Pitt Bull, Geoff. They don't give up.


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Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: kathyp on December 13, 2019, 06:37:36 pm
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You don't like being tarred with the neo brush, unfortunately for you, the neo's are the republican party.

It's not about the brush.  It's about the accuracy of the terms.  There may be neocons here.  I am not among them. Good to know that you consider yourself an expert on American political labels though.   :wink:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 13, 2019, 07:12:23 pm

  You are like the Australia Blue Heeler dog Wally, just get your teeth into a leg and hang on in there  !  !

Iddee is Tuff alright!

I had one of those  Blue Healers Geoff. In fact I wrote telling about him when I had plenty of time while my daddy was in the hospital for a long stay. I was there with him. I had plenty of time then for that true story.  Look up; (My Friend Tuff).   I think it was in the farm section. Brother, Tuff was Tuff!
Phillip
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 14, 2019, 06:20:15 am
???????  Charities here don't pay taxes. How crude are you Londoners, anyway?

PS.  Trump gives his whole salary to charity.
Sorry, I should have realised who I was speaking to! :smile: I pay a membership fee for the National Trust currently $160.00 per annum. The trust can claim gift aid which is 25% of membership fee from the government.

They are recceiving the tax I paid on the income I used to get the membership plus another 5%

Membership numbers have grown from 226,200 when the trust celebrated its 75th anniversary in 1970 to 500,000 in 1975, 1 million in 1981, 2 million in 1990, and by 2015, membership had reached 4.24 million. Members are entitled to free entry to trust properties that are open to the public for a charge.
Membership: 5.6 million (2019)
Purpose: To look after Places of Historic Interest ...
Revenue: $658 million (2014?15)
https://en.wikipedia.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/en.wikipedia.org ? wiki ? National_Trust_for_Places_of_Historic_Intere...

National Trust for Places of Historic Interest or Natural Beauty ...

So as you can see if every member employed gift aid @ 25% it is quite a substantial amount and this can be employed on all charity membership fees.

Someone has to pay to look after the places you lot like to gawp at. :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 14, 2019, 07:03:40 am
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You don't like being tarred with the neo brush, unfortunately for you, the neo's are the republican party.

It's not about the brush.  It's about the accuracy of the terms.  There may be neocons here.  I am not among them. Good to know that you consider yourself an expert on American political labels though.   :wink:
Just the same as many on here, albeit, they think they are of the world :rolleyes: :grin:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: jvalentour on December 14, 2019, 10:13:15 am
Cider once stated he was a pensioner, if so:
He doesn't pay tax.  I don't know if the Brits allow deductions.
He receives $168 per week. 
His next payment is 12/29/2019.
I don't know his retirement date.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 14, 2019, 10:39:21 am
Quote (Someone has to pay to look after the places you lot like to gawp at. :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:)

Yes Cider, I agree with you yet again.  Someone has to pay for it, but not here in America according to some of these DUMB democrats. Some seem to think everything is free! AOC for example, in fact she is so dumb she suggested building a train to Hawaii! Can you believe that?
Another suggested that islands simply float around in the ocean and that if we build too much stuff they will become out of balance and tip over!  Yet dummies keep voting for this type Representation!
Just theory proven fact when a nation dummies down the educational system.  This is what we get! Sad and a Shame.  These same dummies that vote for this type representation, this political party, now want to remove our President:  Democrats: Goodness!!
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: kathyp on December 14, 2019, 12:04:16 pm
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(Someone has to pay to look after the places you lot like to gawp at

And we do.  We pay both state and federal taxes, and in many places additions local taxes to keep parks and recreation AND national monuments and properties.  On to of that, for many places way pay usage fees.  As you point out, nothing is free.   :wink:

The federal government also holds many millions of acres that are not particularly special, but for which we all pay.  Obama expanded that by millions more acres.  Trump has reversed some of that expansion.  While we can go off the deep end with the UN agenda 21 stuff, the government ownership of property for "management" is among their goals.  It forces people off the land and into more urban settings. 
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 14, 2019, 12:19:57 pm
''The federal government also holds many millions of acres that are not particularly special, but for which we all pay.  Obama expanded that by millions more acres.  Trump has reversed some of that expansion.  While we can go off the deep end with the UN agenda 21 stuff, the government ownership of property for "management" is among their goals.  It forces people off the land and into more urban settings. ''

Yes and set up ambushes and kill you right in front of your family. Ask the Bundys!

Oh, was there uranium found on that property? Ask the Clintons!

See: Link Between Hillary's Uranium Deal and the & Bundy Standoff?
imowired.com ? hillarys-uranium-link-bundy-standoff
Dec 21, 2017 - Or was the Bundy Standoff tied to Hillary's Uranium One deal? ... targeting American citizens who own land in uranium rich areas. ... The Bundys and Hammonds found themselves in the crosshairs of DC Swampmonsters
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 14, 2019, 02:33:41 pm
Cider once stated he was a pensioner, if so:
He doesn't pay tax.  I don't know if the Brits allow deductions.
He receives $168 per week. 
His next payment is 12/29/2019.
I don't know his retirement date.
I have to pay tax on any income above my ' tax-free allowance' this is were the gift aid comes from.
My tax-free allowance is swallowed up by my state pension everything else is taxed at a minimum of 20%

He receives $168 per week.?
His next payment is 12/29/2019.?
Sooooo I've been galivanting around the world on $168.00 a week???? I think I should set up a travel agency :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 14, 2019, 05:56:43 pm
Quote (Someone has to pay to look after the places you lot like to gawp at. :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:)

Yes Cider, I agree with you yet again.  Someone has to pay for it, but not here in America according to some of these DUMB democrats. Some seem to think everything is free! AOC for example, in fact she is so dumb she suggested building a train to Hawaii! Can you believe that?
Another suggested that islands simply float around in the ocean and that if we build too much stuff they will become out of balance and tip over!  Yet dummies keep voting for this type Representation!
Just theory proven fact when a nation dummies down the educational system.  This is what we get! Sad and a Shame.  These same dummies that vote for this type representation, this political party, now want to remove our President:  Democrats: Goodness!!
Ben
Would you prefer a one-party state? Certainly sounds like it, to have a democracy you have to put up with the dummies. i.e. the rioting idiots in London
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 14, 2019, 06:28:09 pm
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You don't like being tarred with the neo brush, unfortunately for you, the neo's are the republican party.

It's not about the brush.  It's about the accuracy of the terms.  There may be neocons here.  I am not among them. Good to know that you consider yourself an expert on American political labels though.   :wink:
Takes one to know one, amongst other things. :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 14, 2019, 08:24:54 pm
Quote (Someone has to pay to look after the places you lot like to gawp at. :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:)

Yes Cider, I agree with you yet again.  Someone has to pay for it, but not here in America according to some of these DUMB democrats. Some seem to think everything is free! AOC for example, in fact she is so dumb she suggested building a train to Hawaii! Can you believe that?
Another suggested that islands simply float around in the ocean and that if we build too much stuff they will become out of balance and tip over!  Yet dummies keep voting for this type Representation!
Just theory proven fact when a nation dummies down the educational system.  This is what we get! Sad and a Shame.  These same dummies that vote for this type representation, this political party, now want to remove our President:  Democrats: Goodness!!
Ben
Would you prefer a one-party state? Certainly sounds like it, to have a democracy you have to put up with the dummies. i.e. the rioting idiots in London

No I would not Cider, there needs to be checks and balances. I am afraid a one party system would lead to even more corruption eventually, in the long run.  Actually a well balanced three party system would be more to my liking. And yes there will always be dummies, bless their hearts. Sometimes we all can fall in that category on one subject or another.   I will confess, I have put my foot in my mouth many times and felt like the biggest dummy. haa haa :shocked:
But I try to look for what is right.  :wink:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: kathyp on December 15, 2019, 11:41:17 am
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Actually a well balanced three party system would be more to my liking.

We have multiple parties.  None have been able to field a candidate that could win.  It's not even about the money since Trump was self funded and Bloomberg is self funded.  The organization of the two parties and the money they have to advertise, etc. is helpful. 
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 15, 2019, 11:58:56 am
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Actually a well balanced three party system would be more to my liking.

We have multiple parties.  None have been able to field a candidate that could win.  It's not even about the money since Trump was self funded and Bloomberg is self funded.  The organization of the two parties and the money they have to advertise, etc. is helpful.

That is true Kathy, if only they were balanced. Do you think this is possible in the not so far future? Say the next 20 years or so?
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 15, 2019, 07:41:33 pm
Cider once stated he was a pensioner, if so:
He doesn't pay tax.  I don't know if the Brits allow deductions.
He receives $168 per week. 
His next payment is 12/29/2019.
I don't know his retirement date.
jvalentour, I would stick to the day job, at least I hope you're better at it/was than the above speculation. :rolleyes:
Won't be long before your joining iddee on the medication. Pills, salt, and an early bed. there! there! you know it makes sense. :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: iddee on December 15, 2019, 08:35:22 pm
You sound like a politician, Cider. Never say if he is right or wrong, just hedge around it.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 16, 2019, 05:22:26 am
You sound like a politician, Cider. Never say if he is right or wrong, just hedge around it.
Sussed out at last, mind you, I sussed you a long ago. But not as a politician. :smile:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: salvo on December 16, 2019, 07:56:29 am
Hi Folks,

Se what I mean?

Someone step on this guy's air hose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

Sal

Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 16, 2019, 02:54:59 pm
Hi Folks,

Se what I mean?

Someone step on this guy's air hose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

Sal
It must be frustrating living so high up on your horse, still the harder you fall :wink: :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 16, 2019, 03:16:25 pm
Sal I do not see how this ties in with the coffee house. Maybe it went over my head. 😊😁 Would fit well in the humor section because it did bring a smile. 😊
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: jvalentour on December 16, 2019, 04:44:41 pm
I'd say it ties in very well.
Thanks Sal, good laugh, accurate portrayal. 
Lemme git th't latter fir my horse!
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 16, 2019, 05:36:33 pm
I'd say it ties in very well.
Thanks Sal, good laugh, accurate portrayal. 
Lemme git th't latter fir my horse!
But, just like iddee, you bite every time. :cheesy: Where would we be without you :rolleyes: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Just tweak the neo in you and off you go again.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 17, 2019, 06:14:38 am
Quote (Someone has to pay to look after the places you lot like to gawp at. :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:)

Yes Cider, I agree with you yet again.  Someone has to pay for it, but not here in America according to some of these DUMB democrats. Some seem to think everything is free! AOC for example, in fact she is so dumb she suggested building a train to Hawaii! Can you believe that?
Another suggested that islands simply float around in the ocean and that if we build too much stuff they will become out of balance and tip over!  Yet dummies keep voting for this type Representation!
Just theory proven fact when a nation dummies down the educational system.  This is what we get! Sad and a Shame.  These same dummies that vote for this type representation, this political party, now want to remove our President:  Democrats: Goodness!!
Ben
Would you prefer a one-party state? Certainly sounds like it, to have a democracy you have to put up with the dummies. i.e. the rioting idiots in London

No I would not Cider, there needs to be checks and balances. I am afraid a one party system would lead to even more corruption eventually, in the long run.  Actually a well balanced three party system would be more to my liking. And yes there will always be dummies, bless their hearts. Sometimes we all can fall in that category on one subject or another.   I will confess, I have put my foot in my mouth many times and felt like the biggest dummy. haa haa :shocked:
But I try to look for what is right.  :wink:
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As you probably know we have a multi-party state which used to jog along with two of the main parties more or less alternating
Now we have the Conservative (Rep) Labour (centrist) Liberal-Dems (God only knows) SNPs (Scot-Nationist) Plaid-Cymru (Welsh Nationist) UKIP (UK Nationist) BREXIT (which we will have shortly) and the plethora of candidates in funny outfits, those are amongst the 'idiots you need to put up with' And also the parties in NI (the less said the better)
It all probably boils down to money, have or have not, us and them. In other words a hangover of the class system. This seemed to be breaking down in this election Lab areas turning Con but probably only on loan but you never know.
Before long we may even not have a UK, no Scotland, still no great loss, no more pushing money north via the Barnet Formula :wink: We could even have our own Glen Avon Whisky. :cheesy: 
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: kathyp on December 17, 2019, 11:05:34 am
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Before long we may even not have a UK, no Scotland,

Maybe, but Scotland probably doesn't want to lose it's "stuff", and I can't see you guys booting them.  Would the EU take over their care and feeding?
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: jvalentour on December 17, 2019, 11:53:15 am
How would the loss of the Scots affect the balance of power in Parliament?

I would think the EU would support the Scots just to poke the Brits in the eye.

I am I correct in remembering that the whole Brexit deal began with forced immigration quotas from the EU?  I remember reading about immigration camps in Calais hitching rides on the Chunnel Railway.

What is the average Brits opinion of Poland and Hungry not accepting EU immigration quotas?
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 17, 2019, 02:57:50 pm
How would the loss of the Scots affect the balance of power in Parliament?

I would think the EU would support the Scots just to poke the Brits in the eye.

I am I correct in remembering that the whole Brexit deal began with forced immigration quotas from the EU?  I remember reading about immigration camps in Calais hitching rides on the Chunnel Railway.

What is the average Brits opinion of Poland and Hungry not accepting EU immigration quotas?
How would the loss of the Scots affect the balance of power in Parliament?........It wont

I would think the EU would support the Scots just to poke the Brits in the eye.      Doubtful, it would encourage other breakaway Provinces

I am I correct in remembering that the whole Brexit deal began with forced immigration quotas from the EU?  I remember reading about immigration camps in Calais hitching rides on the Chunnel Railway.

One of the main  reasons for BREXIT was uncontrollable immigration from the EU ie "free movement"
The others are Refugees probably 90% which are economic migrants posing as refugees, wanting free housing, money, healthcare etc.
I shall have to stop this, sounding more like iddee, uck! :shocked: 

With this lot can you see the EU entertaining Scotland? In actual fact, we would have to pay them to take them away.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Europe

re Poland and Hungary, I don't think Poland has a leg to stand on, they come over here in droves. But of refugees most would agree. Refugees who leave the first safe country are not refugees but more or less economic migrants.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: kathyp on December 17, 2019, 09:04:39 pm
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I don't think Poland has a leg to stand on, they come over here in droves.

Are they a large part of your welfare class though?  I was given to understand that they are pretty hard workers wherever they land?
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: Ben Framed on December 18, 2019, 11:04:28 am
Sal I do not see how this ties in with the coffee house. Maybe it went over my head. 😊😁 Would fit well in the humor section because it did bring a smile. 😊

I'd say it ties in very well.
Thanks Sal, good laugh, accurate portrayal. 
Lemme git th't latter fir my horse!

That being the case you might like this also.

https://youtu.be/v2umsI4U4Z8
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 25, 2019, 05:34:44 pm
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I don't think Poland has a leg to stand on, they come over here in droves.

Are they a large part of your welfare class though?  I was given to understand that they are pretty hard workers wherever they land?
It depends where you're coming from. Tens, nay, hundreds of thousands (911,000) and that's just the Poles! As you know it starts to affect the local infrastructure. Housing needs, schools that suffer from lots of students not fluent in English. Pressure on local medical services/hospitals. Child allowance being sent back 'home' when the child wasn't in this country start to grate. Nothing against Poles per se, hard-working as you say and will take on jobs that others won't. But.......they are just one of the unrestrained EU immigrants   :sad: One very large reason for BREXIT amongst numerous others.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: kathyp on December 25, 2019, 11:16:46 pm
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It depends where you're coming from.

We have the same problem here with both legal and illegal people.  multiple languages in schools.  Welfare.  Housing.  Same as you guys only in bigger multiples.  At some point, it does stress the system and who knows where the breaking point is. 
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 27, 2019, 05:40:12 pm
Sal I do not see how this ties in with the coffee house. Maybe it went over my head. 😊😁 Would fit well in the humor section because it did bring a smile. 😊

I'd say it ties in very well.
Thanks Sal, good laugh, accurate portrayal. 
Lemme git th't latter fir my horse!

That being the case you might like this also.

https://youtu.be/v2umsI4U4Z8
He may get a second if he can carry the mugs with him! A la jvalentour, iddee and Ben framed? etc. I was under the impression there was no third term? But who knows what G&T could finagle. He has pulled the wool over so many people's eyes His Twitterati will believe anything. :rolleyes: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: iddee on December 27, 2019, 09:17:26 pm
Are you finally admitting he's smart enough to do whatever he wants?   :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 28, 2019, 07:18:54 am
Are you finally admitting he's smart enough to do whatever he wants?   :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Do you really believe that? :rolleyes:
But then again I did class you as part of his Twitterati :wink: :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: iddee on December 28, 2019, 07:50:32 am
No, I don't really believe you are finally admitting the truth. That's why I asked.   :cool: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: jvalentour on December 28, 2019, 11:44:06 pm
He may get a second if he can carry the mugs with him! A la jvalentour, iddee and Ben framed? etc

I'll be voting early and often, now Cider, be a good chap and get the horse.
Title: Re: The current state of politics
Post by: cidersabuzzin on December 29, 2019, 05:30:57 pm
He may get a second if he can carry the mugs with him! A la jvalentour, iddee and Ben framed? etc

I'll be voting early and often, now Cider, be a good chap and get the horse.
Nay :grin: I don't have anything to do with equines, previously you have provided your own. I'm just concerned you may fall off before getting down. So canter off until at least next year, or middle of hopefully. Happy New Year :cheesy: