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Title: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: paus on June 14, 2019, 04:26:06 pm
Probably an old  topic but new to me.  What does a deep frame with fully capped honey, weigh? I weighed one that weighed 11 pounds + an ounce or two, I have seen frames I think were more uniformly filled out that would weigh more but this is the first one I ever weighed.  Extrapolating this would make a ten frame weigh about 120 pounds.  That is way more than an old codger should lift so that is why I removed the frames one at a time, which is no big deal since I am a hobbyist now.  Is this the norm?
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: sawdstmakr on June 14, 2019, 04:59:43 pm
Paus,
I normally run mediums but at last months Nassau meeting, we extract 2 deep frames and got 20 pounds. So 10 pounds per frame sounds correct.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: iddee on June 14, 2019, 06:13:59 pm
What kind of honey are you people getting?  A medium averages 3 lb. per frame of honey, or 10 quarts per super. A deep is only 50% more than a medium, or 4 1/2 to 5 lbs. of honey. I have never extracted a deep that wouldn't go in a 5 gallon bucket.
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: TheHoneyPump on June 14, 2019, 10:01:33 pm
Generally speaking .... as we run the frames to 3/4 full - never completely packed and capped.
CPnC = lost production. Approximates:

DEEPS:   75 - 85 lbs a box.  Any box over 85 lbs is overfull and you have missed out on some production.

The box alone weighs: 9.5 lbs
8 frames in a 10 frame box.  9 - 10 lbs per frame
9 frames in a 10 frame box.   7.5 - 8.5 lbs per frame
10 frames in a 10 frame box.  7 - 8 lbs per frame

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: Ben Framed on June 14, 2019, 11:28:36 pm
Generally speaking .... as we run the frames to 3/4 full - never completely packed and capped.
CPnC = lost production. Approximates:

DEEPS:   75 - 85 lbs a box.  Any box over 85 lbs is overfull and you have missed out on some production.

The box alone weighs: 9.5 lbs
8 frames in a 10 frame box.  9 - 10 lbs per frame
9 frames in a 10 frame box.   7.5 - 8.5 lbs per frame
10 frames in a 10 frame box.  7 - 8 lbs per frame

Hope that helps!

This is very interesting Mr Claude, especially the 8 frames in a 10 frame box. So as usual, I have a question.
Do you have some sort of frame spacing tool used in order to quickly and efficiently space these frames to the proper width, or simply wing it by eye sight? The reason I ask is I like the idea of producing more honey in a same size box with less equipment. Seems like good common sense to me.
Thanks, Phillip
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: saltybluegrass on June 15, 2019, 01:51:32 am
Probably an old  topic but new to me.  What does a deep frame with fully capped honey, weigh? I weighed one that weighed 11 pounds + an ounce or two, I have seen frames I think were more uniformly filled out that would weigh more but this is the first one I ever weighed.  Extrapolating this would make a ten frame weigh about 120 pounds.  That is way more than an old codger should lift so that is why I removed the frames one at a time, which is no big deal since I am a hobbyist now.  Is this the norm?

I saw my super had some honey for me 2 weeks ago. I finally got the energy to tackle it 90 degrees today and yes I did them one frame at a time as well. I was soaked but smiling
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: CoolBees on June 15, 2019, 02:07:17 am

I saw my super had some honey for me 2 weeks ago. I finally got the energy to tackle it 90 degrees today and yes I did them one frame at a time as well. I was soaked but smiling

 :grin: pretty awesome isn't it Salty.  :grin:
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: sawdstmakr on June 15, 2019, 07:53:52 am
Congratulations Salty,
I bet it is the best honey you have ever tasted.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: paus on June 15, 2019, 12:03:32 pm
When I helped space frames for commercial keepers they gave me a spacer but I soon learned that propolis would not let the frames slide on the rest very easily  so I did like every one else I "eyeballed" them.  They always put 9 frames in a 10 frame deep super.  This is where I saw frames that were bigger than the one I weighed, referred to in my  first post.
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: Ben Framed on June 15, 2019, 12:30:32 pm
When I helped space frames for commercial keepers they gave me a spacer but I soon learned that propolis would not let the frames slide on the rest very easily  so I did like every one else I "eyeballed" them.  They always put 9 frames in a 10 frame deep super.  This is where I saw frames that were bigger than the one I weighed, referred to in my  first post.

Thanks Paus I like the idea.
Phillip
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: saltybluegrass on June 15, 2019, 01:09:16 pm

I saw my super had some honey for me 2 weeks ago. I finally got the energy to tackle it 90 degrees today and yes I did them one frame at a time as well. I was soaked but smiling

 :grin: pretty awesome isn't it Salty.  :grin:

I was told not to expect honey my first year. I set my expectations accordingly. What?s amazing is this is a cutout and my nucs that were purchased around the same time are no where near this haul.

Thanks Alan and Him
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: Ben Framed on June 15, 2019, 01:44:52 pm

I saw my super had some honey for me 2 weeks ago. I finally got the energy to tackle it 90 degrees today and yes I did them one frame at a time as well. I was soaked but smiling

 :grin: pretty awesome isn't it Salty.  :grin:

I was told not to expect honey my first year. I set my expectations accordingly. What?s amazing is this is a cutout and my nucs that were purchased around the same time are no where near this haul.

Thanks Alan and Him

Good deal salty! Congratulations! I have yet to extract my first honey! Being it?s the next day, how much honey did you wind up with?  When you did the cutout, was you able to save the brood comb? Was there a lot of caped brood that you were able to save? If so that would be a big advantage. Apparently you did a good job on your cutout!!
Phillip
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: Vance G on June 18, 2019, 01:19:15 am
I space eight frames and I have long ago calibrated my fingers to space them out very quickly.  It is only quick if you keep your frame rests scraped after last extraction.  Bees supposedly measure cell size by the length of their legs, So I guess I learned to use my front legs like them.  Weighing frames is a curiosity.  What counts is whats in the bucket and barrel.
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: Ben Framed on June 18, 2019, 01:22:41 am
I space eight frames and I have long ago calibrated my fingers to space them out very quickly.  It is only quick if you keep your frame rests scraped after last extraction.  Bees supposedly measure cell size by the length of their legs, So I guess I learned to use my front legs like them.  Weighing frames is a curiosity.  What counts is whats in the bucket and barrel.

Thanks Vance, I appreciate your answer and tips. I will incorporate this knowledge in my program!!
Again thanks, Phillip
Title: Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
Post by: bobll on June 18, 2019, 10:55:14 am
I am just now getting my very first honey frames, where the bees are capping large areas. And I gotta say... It is very exciting to lift them during inspection and feel the weight of them. Amazing! I am hooked on beekeeping!