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Title: National Anthem
Post by: mikecva on January 27, 2015, 06:10:58 pm
Is it just me or are others disturbed when 'artist' butcher the US National Anthem by singing it other then the way our country adopted it? -Mike
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Michael Bush on January 27, 2015, 06:47:12 pm
Well... our country was kind of slow adopting it.  Ben Franklin wanted to have "Yankee Doodle" for our National Anthem.  But then he thought we should have the wild turkey as our national bird and the long bow as our national weapon...  actually not bad choices... when you consider the speed of the single shot rifles of the time and an American Indian could have six arrows in the air at the same time...

http://controversialtimes.com/news/video-expert-archer-shows-amazing-speed-and-accuracy-with-rapid-fire-shooting/

We didn't adopt the Star Spangled Banner as our national anthem until 1916 (and not officially until 1931), even though it was written in 1814.  The music, of course, was British (To Anacreon in Heaven).  Up until 1916 we used "Hail, Columbia" and "My Country, 'Tis of Thee", which of course we also stole from the British (God Save the Queen).

I love to hear creative version of the Star Spangled Banner.  Here is one of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZVKVND1acE
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Michael Bush on January 29, 2015, 01:41:14 pm
Nobody liked Chris's version?  I think it's head and shoulders above Hendrix's version...
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: jayj200 on January 29, 2015, 03:42:43 pm
and why should we almost to the entertainer.
By my observation if they are not leftist or promoting leftist liberal addenda they will not be hired, by the entertaining industry, (hollywood) radio television, or movies.

I for one am very critical of what I see hear and watch.
the stars today are not stars they are entertainers and that is all except for the propaganda
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Richard M on February 04, 2015, 07:53:41 am
Star Spangled Banner is great. I love it.

Australian National Anthem (Advance Australia Fair) is really bad and if you want to hear an anthem being butchered, try watching AFL Grand Final Day - shocking. And I don't know anyone here that knows the words past the first three lines.

Personally, I'd have preferred Waltzing Matilda as it sounds great on the bagpipes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE0kyySqMmc&list=RDvE0kyySqMmc

Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Michael Bush on February 04, 2015, 04:01:00 pm
Yes, Waltzing Matilda does sound nice on bagpipes... You have Anzac day and most people in the US don't know anything about Gallipoli... I guess it makes sense to a small degree since we didn't fight in it, but it was one of, if not THE, longest and bloodiest battles in the history of the world...  I never heard much about it until I went to Istanbul..
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Dallasbeek on March 19, 2015, 07:36:09 pm
Question:  "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" was in the soundtrack of a fairly recent movie, I think.  Anyone know what movie?  It's a truly haunting song about the devastation of Gallipoli.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Kathyp on March 19, 2015, 09:13:55 pm
The only time I'm bothered by how the national anthem is done is when they make it sound like a funeral dirge. It's a song of celebration.  I am not opposed to artistic interpretation as long as they don't make it sound like we should be shoveling dirt as they sing it.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Kathyp on March 19, 2015, 09:16:39 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8C7i9kdEf8
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: OldMech on March 20, 2015, 10:25:16 pm
Is it just me or are others disturbed when 'artist' butcher the US National Anthem by singing it other then the way our country adopted it? -Mike

   YES! 
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: jvalentour on March 22, 2015, 11:40:16 pm
I like it most when a member(s) of the armed forces perform it. 
Or a kid, maybe.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Dallasbeek on March 23, 2015, 01:02:06 am
I kinda get offended when black artists sing the national anthem with all the things they do, but then I think it's their national anthem, too, so go ahead with it, man.  Are we all in this together, or not?
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: AR Beekeeper on April 02, 2015, 01:14:58 pm
Had I voted in 1931, my vote for a national anthem would have gone to America the Beautiful.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Michael Bush on April 02, 2015, 03:36:12 pm
> my vote for a national anthem would have gone to America the Beautiful.

Ben Franklin wanted Yankee Doodle... but America the Beautiful is certainly more majestic...
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: cidersabuzzin on August 24, 2019, 05:49:46 pm
The only time I'm bothered by how the national anthem is done is when they make it sound like a funeral dirge. It's a song of celebration.  I am not opposed to artistic interpretation as long as they don't make it sound like we should be shoveling dirt as they sing it.
Kathy I agree about a funeral dirge our present one sounds like one!
But galloping to rescue could be......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvgl_2JRIUs
pity it will never happen :sad:
cider
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Kathyp on August 24, 2019, 10:35:28 pm
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Kathy I agree about a funeral dirge our present one sounds like one!

IDK, I kind of like yours.  It sounds like a prayer in words and execution.  Understanding the origin of ours, It should be joyful.  The flag still stood.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Anonimo22 on August 25, 2019, 03:50:41 am
Hurrah!

This thread proves that not all of America is decadent and evil still; and that patriots still exist. I salute you all.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Ben Framed on August 31, 2019, 04:31:59 am
Cousin Ben did much for our country, and I salute him as a real American! However, only two mistakes come to mind about ole Ben.  1 the wild turkey is no comparison to the Bald Eagle. 2 Yankee Doodle though catchy for you Northern Folks had to lay down for The Star Spangled Banner, and no one preforms it like LeAnn!

https://youtu.be/zeYLSIDic7g
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Bushpilot on August 31, 2019, 12:56:32 pm
Many years ago it bothered me, but I got over it when I (mostly) got over my nationalism.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Dallasbeek on August 31, 2019, 03:06:23 pm
Philip

That is an excellent video.  Thanks for posting that.  I just wish the person making it had had a good editor.  I may have heard wrong but I heard the narrator refer numerous times to Fort Henry instead of Fort McHenry.  And there were several things in the on-screen captioning that bothered me, such as "...so proudly we held" instead of "proudly we hailed."

Sorry to be a nit-picker, but it is distracting to me when an otherwise beautiful presentation is marred by such things.  Before I went to law school, I speant 20 years as a journalist, most of the time as a copy editor, and errors like these just cause me to stop short in reading or listening. 

Just call me an old curmudgeon if you want.  That's the way I am, I guess.  If there's a nit in sight, I can't resist picking it. LOL
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: iddee on August 31, 2019, 04:42:08 pm
""Sorry to be a nit-picker, but it is distracting to me when an otherwise beautiful presentation is marred by such things.  Before I went to law school, I speant 20 years as a journalist, most of the time as a copy editor, and errors like these just cause me to stop short in reading or listening.""

What does "speant" mean?   :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Ben Framed on August 31, 2019, 06:07:49 pm
Philip

That is an excellent video.  Thanks for posting that.  I just wish the person making it had had a good editor.  I may have heard wrong but I heard the narrator refer numerous times to Fort Henry instead of Fort McHenry.  And there were several things in the on-screen captioning that bothered me, such as "...so proudly we held" instead of "proudly we hailed."

Sorry to be a nit-picker, but it is distracting to me when an otherwise beautiful presentation is marred by such things.  Before I went to law school, I speant 20 years as a journalist, most of the time as a copy editor, and errors like these just cause me to stop short in reading or listening. 

Just call me an old curmudgeon if you want.  That's the way I am, I guess.  If there's a nit in sight, I can't resist picking it. LOL

In law, grammar certainly matters! I fully understand.  "so proudly we held" instead of "proudly we hailed." Prehaps her accent could be the difference? 
 :grin:
Phillip
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: John_M on August 31, 2019, 06:10:27 pm
We aren't the only ones.  Try this one;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul_qm3Ym8-k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul_qm3Ym8-k)
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Ben Framed on August 31, 2019, 06:24:57 pm
I do not know what the words are saying but that girl is a bad to the bone pole vaulter...
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: John_M on August 31, 2019, 06:31:36 pm
She's pretty special!  The words to the russian national anthem are pretty neat, they kept the same music as the Soviet anthem but the words are new.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Dallasbeek on August 31, 2019, 06:45:07 pm
""Sorry to be a nit-picker, but it is distracting to me when an otherwise beautiful presentation is marred by such things.  Before I went to law school, I speant 20 years as a journalist, most of the time as a copy editor, and errors like these just cause me to stop short in reading or listening.""

What does "speant" mean?   :wink: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:

Iddee, I read that over twice before posting it, and missed the typo both times.  I was a good editor when dealing with other people?s writing, but always had to have my own work edited by someone else.  When I read what I?ve just written, I tend to see what I intended to write, rather than what I actually wrote.  If I put it aside for a time and then go back to it, errors I made become obvious. 
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Dallasbeek on August 31, 2019, 07:02:20 pm
Philip

That is an excellent video.  Thanks for posting that.  I just wish the person making it had had a good editor.  I may have heard wrong but I heard the narrator refer numerous times to Fort Henry instead of Fort McHenry.  And there were several things in the on-screen captioning that bothered me, such as "...so proudly we held" instead of "proudly we hailed."

Sorry to be a nit-picker, but it is distracting to me when an otherwise beautiful presentation is marred by such things.  Before I went to law school, I speant 20 years as a journalist, most of the time as a copy editor, and errors like these just cause me to stop short in reading or listening. 

Just call me an old curmudgeon if you want.  That's the way I am, I guess.  If there's a nit in sight, I can't resist picking it. LOL

In law, grammar certainly matters! I fully understand.  "so proudly we held" instead of "proudly we hailed." Prehaps her accent could be the difference? 
 :grin:
Phillip


Nah, I think they had spell-check or something involved.  But I see your spell-check let ?prehaps? go through.  Mine just changed it twice to perhaps before I finally convinced it I really meant to type what you wrote.   :tongue:
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: iddee on August 31, 2019, 08:15:17 pm
Just had to poke a little fun, Dallas.  We all make mistrakes.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Kathyp on September 01, 2019, 01:06:23 pm
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When I read what I?ve just written, I tend to see what I intended to write, rather than what I actually wrote.

I do exactly the same thing.  I re-read for errors and still miss them.  Two days later, there they are!   :cheesy:
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: sawdstmakr on September 01, 2019, 01:49:11 pm
Same here. It is easy to see errors in what others wrote. I skip right over my own.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: John_M on September 01, 2019, 03:17:06 pm
I had a standing rule in the office I used to manage that all correspondance was proof read by someone else for this very reason.
Of course the owner would sabotage us by insisting on a letter being typed 15 minutes before the last mail pickup.  He was also the one that expected that no one ever make a mistake.
Title: Re: National Anthem
Post by: Michael Bush on September 09, 2019, 04:27:33 pm
?You can never correct your work well until you have forgotten
it.??Voltaire