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Title: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on December 21, 2010, 12:51:55 am
Several of ya'll have asked me about making candles and such so I figured I'd post a little video. Hope you enjoy and Merry Christmas!!!

dipping candles_0001.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuYi1n6LJ7M#)

Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: Bee Happy on December 21, 2010, 01:19:35 am
Fun video. I'm honestly still undecided whether I want to do the dipped - tapered candles, gonna do the poured ones though.
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on December 21, 2010, 01:35:18 am
Hand dipped sell better and if you set it up right you can make lots of them in a short time. I'm only set up to do 48 at a time but I've seen where a guy that makes them for the Catholic Church can dip 10,000 in a day!

Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: bud1 on December 21, 2010, 08:54:23 am
scott; been playing with my first ones, don't look to good, but they burn
 take care pard and looking to see youall soon
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Post by: JP on December 21, 2010, 10:09:56 am
Some nice lookin' candles there. I see you were blessin' 'em at the end, just before your elf woke up from...     "pacing " herself.  :-D


...JP
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: Robo on December 21, 2010, 10:21:03 am
Nice video Scott.  I just pinned it so it won't get lost.
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: AllenF on December 21, 2010, 07:40:55 pm
That was great.   Loved it.     X:X

So how do you fix the turkey inside the bigger pot to keep it off bottom?
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on December 21, 2010, 09:29:06 pm
Allen, I put a rack like the ones you cool cookies on in the bottom of the big pot.

Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: annette on December 21, 2010, 09:57:32 pm
Wow, I had no idea that is how they were made and I have always admired those candles.
Thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us.  Also you were sure drinking lots of diet coke there!! :-D

Annette
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: ronwhite3030 on December 22, 2010, 02:25:32 am
what size wick did you use hardwood?
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Post by: rdy-b on December 22, 2010, 02:26:41 am
  12 oz-- :lol:  RDY-B
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: ronwhite3030 on December 22, 2010, 02:58:29 am
i said wick, not liquid rdy
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Post by: ronwhite3030 on December 22, 2010, 03:08:56 am
what do you make your candle holders out of hardwood?
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on December 22, 2010, 09:13:39 am
ronwhite, I've tried several wick sizes and 2/0 square braid seems to work the best. These candles have an 8hr burn time and drip very little.

The candle holders are just simple hexagonal blocks of various exotic woods with a 3/4 hole in the top. When you crowd several of them together it looks like honeycomb.

As for the actual dippers in the video, they're made out of some aluminum plate I had laying around and some threaded rod. I've been thinking you could make some out of bicycle sprockets pretty easily.

Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: VolunteerK9 on December 22, 2010, 05:37:55 pm
*POOF* you are a sticky
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on December 22, 2010, 06:08:08 pm
That's odd...I didn't feel a thing :-D

Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: Robo on December 22, 2010, 06:31:13 pm
That's because you where well hydrated.

As we preach to our scouts - "Hydrate or Die!"

But we don't recommend diet coke for them  :-P
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: AllenF on December 22, 2010, 09:05:38 pm
Diet coke?    My eyes may be playing a trick on me.    :-D
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: VolunteerK9 on December 22, 2010, 09:28:42 pm
Diet coke?    My eyes may be playing a trick on me.    :-D

oh it was prolly 'diet'

like miller diet
bud diet or
coors diet

reckon why cokes and pepsis arent lite? sorry its the meds talking
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: AllenF on December 22, 2010, 10:09:50 pm
The prescription meds or the liquid (may intensify the effects) meds?
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: VolunteerK9 on December 22, 2010, 10:55:56 pm
The prescription meds or the liquid (may intensify the effects) meds?

well..i dunno...how can you tell which one is doing what? i have taken both  :evil:
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: BeesNeeds on January 03, 2011, 02:06:27 pm
question... what is your stringing pattern for the wicks? It was kind of hard to tell but it looked like in the end the wicks were perfectly measured.. Do you string every other notch till all the way around, or string opposite notches till done? Also, how are you tying the wick on and off?

And you made your rack disks out of metal, and I don't really have that type of equipment. Could I make the disks out of wood instead?

Outstandingly informative video BTW :)
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Post by: ziffabeek on January 03, 2011, 03:00:13 pm
Great video!  do you use just straight melted beeswax? Or is anything mixed in?

I would really love to try this.  Wonder how long it would take me to collect enough wax with my one hive!? lol

Thanks for posting this!

love,
ziffa
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on January 03, 2011, 03:39:38 pm
Thanks for the feedback. It makes me feel good that ya'll are able to get something from it :)

BeesNeeds, I don't see why a wooden frame wouldn't work unless it would try to float too much...give it a try! Each of my dipping racks has a small hole in the bottom plate to start the wick. I thread the wick up through the hole and tie a figure eight knot making sure to leave about two inches if tag end. I wind the wick up to a notch (let's say notch 1) then back down at notch 4, come back at the bottom to notch 3, up and then across to notch 6, back to notch 5 at the bottom and so forth. This leaves notch 2 open to bring the wick back down when the rack is full and tie off to that tag end left hanging. Hope that helps...if you need I'll take a pic for you.

Ziffa, I use just straight bees wax but you can add colorants and scents too. The 100% beeswax and all cotton wick seems to be a pretty strong selling point...just sold a bunch to a LMT from Miami that uses them in her massage practice. It'll take a while to build your wax stash with only one hive for sure! If you'd like I can hook you up with a friend that sells and ships beeswax at a really reasonable rate...several from this site have bought from her.

Peace be yours,
Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: BeesNeeds on January 03, 2011, 06:55:17 pm
sweet, the stringing pattern makes total sense to me.. but then, I play with circular weaving and trim making, stuff like that.. Maybe post a pic so everyone can see anyway?
Extra easy and nice to only need one finishing hole in the base plate.

and lol... when showing the video to my hubby, I said "wow, I could use your brewing kettle for this!" and he said "no way".. I said "for the boiling of water, not the melting of wax", and he said "nope, wax could drip into the water, and mess up the kettle for brewing"
So.. does wax get into the boiling water? Or is it just a matter of being neat and just shaking it off over the wax pot? I don't want to accidentally wreck his kettle if it will leave any trace wax from drips in it..
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on January 03, 2011, 07:00:14 pm
You could easily rig something to catch any drips but you could clean his pot with hot water anyway. Just do it one day when he's gone fishing! :-D

Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: WPG on January 10, 2011, 03:38:06 am
. Could I make the disks out of wood instead?

You could possibly use a couple of aluminum spoked pulleys with a piece of all-thread and nuts to space them, or a shaft and set screws that fit the center of the pulleys. Drill and file evenly spaced notches for the wick.  Find pulleys that will fit easily what ever size pot you'll use for the melted wax.

Goodluck


Great video, Hardwood
and great to have a nice tuck-ee into beddee after sufficient dehydration prevention. :evil: :-D
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: ScooterTrash on September 02, 2012, 12:49:13 pm
appreciate all the youtube videos Hardwood. That's a heck of a pot for the water, how many gallons? Burn a 20lb tank of gas to get water up to temperature?
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: hardwood on September 02, 2012, 09:54:00 pm
Wow scoot...dug up an old one! The pot is 30 gal if I recall. Takes about 1/2 hr to get it up to temp. I've got a water jacketed 40 gal SS tank that I made an elec model from but it takes 3-4 hrs to heat.

Scott
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: Intheswamp on September 03, 2012, 12:00:26 am
Wow scoot...dug up an old one! The pot is 30 gal if I recall. Takes about 1/2 hr to get it up to temp. I've got a water jacketed 40 gal SS tank that I made an elec model from but it takes 3-4 hrs to heat.

Scott
It got me interested!!!  :)   I just don't have much wax.  :-\

What's the going price for selling to one of the vendors like Kelleys or Rossman?  My mentor has some that he may sale to this year and I've thought about buying some from him...just don't know what to offer.

Ed
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: divemaster1963 on September 03, 2012, 01:20:42 am
I have started dipping tapers. I got a used coffee brew pot from a second hand resturant supplier for 10 bucks. I put a restat on the heating element to keep from burning the wax. I can heat it up slowly then keep it set to temp. then I can pour molds and dip thru the top using the same pot. when done I just let it harden or use the spikit to fill forms of bricks. works great.

john
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: ScooterTrash on September 03, 2012, 03:46:41 pm
Just a little wax try http://www.candletech.com/general-information/do-it-yourself-wax-melter/ (http://www.candletech.com/general-information/do-it-yourself-wax-melter/)
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: broke-t on January 14, 2013, 10:00:49 pm
I just purchased this system for dipping tapers, hope it works.

http://www.candlewic.com/store/category.aspx?q=c44&title=Taper%20Candle%20Dipping (http://www.candlewic.com/store/category.aspx?q=c44&title=Taper%20Candle%20Dipping)

Johnny
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: Vance G on February 18, 2013, 04:37:17 pm
So thats where the money I sent you for queens went! :<}  Please let us know if it is good system sir.
Title: Re: Dipping tapers
Post by: my-smokepole on February 20, 2013, 08:28:10 pm
Broke t
 I made my own On the same idea. And it works fine. The most inportant thing is to get the right wicking. For it. Keep your eye open for one or two of the old stainless fire extinuisher. Cut the top off and you have a great tank for dipping. Looking forward to Queens a high of 25 deg
David