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Title: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 13, 2009, 12:19:03 am
I've decided to put together a series of short videos on frames and frame assembly to help new beekeepers better understand the options and assembly methods.

The first clip is an overview of frames  -> https://youtu.be/at24aXV5OO0
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: millermann1972 on March 13, 2009, 12:45:54 pm
very nice video robo, very informative for a new beek :)
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Jim 134 on March 13, 2009, 05:46:36 pm
Link is not working for me  :(  :? I am using IE



   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: dpence on March 13, 2009, 06:31:35 pm
Works for me.  Nice Video Rob,

David
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: MustbeeNuts on March 13, 2009, 07:01:59 pm
Very nice Rob, when's part two coming out. LOL I hate to wait for sequels.  :-D
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 13, 2009, 08:30:21 pm
Very nice Rob, when's part two coming out. LOL I hate to wait for sequels.  :-D

Soon :-D
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: my-smokepole on March 13, 2009, 08:45:16 pm
Haven't made it all of the way through. First great job what I have seen. For me it keep stopping to load more. Don't now if it was my side or what. Sec when you had the two med frams out you might want to go through what the differnct is and why.
David/toledo
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 13, 2009, 10:24:16 pm
Sec when you had the two med frams out you might want to go through what the differnct is and why.
David/toledo

Stay tuned ;)
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Irwin on March 14, 2009, 10:54:45 am
Haven't made it all of the way through. First great job what I have seen. For me it keep stopping to load more. Don't now if it was my side or what. Sec when you had the two med frams out you might want to go through what the differnct is and why.
David/toledo
Do you have dialup or high speed :?
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Shawn on March 14, 2009, 01:22:57 pm
Great video. Thats what I needed to see! Sure hope I dont have to wait for a week for part two like on TV  :-D
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: gwalker314 on March 15, 2009, 07:09:52 pm
Nice Video. Answered many questions I had about frames and foundation. Looking forward to more videos in the future.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: mherndon on March 15, 2009, 10:46:42 pm
Great video Rob.  Can't wait to see more! :lol:

Mark
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: beemaster on March 16, 2009, 12:26:35 pm
Awesome Rob - both the Frame and Queen marking. I liked the HQ options at youtube these days, as soon as I find what is wrong with my usb/software issue from camera to PC I'll be back at Beemaster Studios myself :)

Great Work!

Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Irwin on March 16, 2009, 12:30:38 pm
Awesome Rob - both the Frame and Queen marking. I liked the HQ options at youtube these days, as soon as I find what is wrong with my usb/software issue from camera to PC I'll be back at Beemaster Studios myself :)

Great Work!


Well get on it John let's see the vid's :-D
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 16, 2009, 11:36:07 pm
Part 2 - Foundation and Wiring is now available. More still to come.....

https://youtu.be/UjIJV-oCbO8
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: jdpro5010 on March 17, 2009, 02:28:42 pm
Very nice again Robo.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 21, 2009, 08:09:41 am
Part 3 - Installing eyelets and assembly with hammer & nails - now available.   Next up is jigs and air stapler.

https://youtu.be/1OYPSBevkrk
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: vermmy35 on March 21, 2009, 09:07:04 am
thanks rob I just found out that I need to go back and add the last 2 nails to my frame's.  I would have never known that if I wouldn't have watched the video.   Thanks again.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 21, 2009, 09:15:32 am
thanks rob I just found out that I need to go back and add the last 2 nails to my frame's.  I would have never known that if I wouldn't have watched the video.   Thanks again.

Excellent.  It is often hard to explain them with text,  but the video makes it clearer.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: jdpro5010 on March 21, 2009, 12:00:06 pm
You oughta be charging for this Robo.  You could be making millions! :-D  Seriously, this is a very good thing you are doing for the beginners of the forum.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: blckoakbees on March 21, 2009, 09:12:37 pm
Rob,

Thank you so much.  I really enjoyed these they are great.  I would love to see how to put the wax in the frame for comb honey, if you do another.  I am sure all who watch these learned something.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: dpence on March 22, 2009, 12:22:11 am
Rob, the video clips are great.  Looking forward to the clips on jigs and air stapling.  Hopefully my wife will let me buy one soon... :-D
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: TwT on March 22, 2009, 02:03:12 am
Rob, very nice video's, I even learned some thing from these (perma comb and supercell parts) plus totally agree on the Duragilt part, but the main thing I want to learn is where did you get that shirt in the last video????  looks like you just come from the 60's  :-D :-P ,,
cant wait to see the sequels, very nice Job, like said above you should charge for a video like this, nobody else even makes them like what you covered, just something for you to think about.....
 
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 22, 2009, 04:52:24 pm
Ah come on Ted, I live a few miles from Woodstock,  tie-dye has never been out of style :mrgreen:

You'll have to put up with it for another segment :rainbowflower:

Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 23, 2009, 11:54:00 am
Part 4 - Jigs & Air Nailers is now available.  Installing wire is next up.

https://youtu.be/NPvnO-Yqw94
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: dpence on March 25, 2009, 04:43:34 pm
Built the frame jig last night.  Works great.  Your dimensions were right on. 

David
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on March 25, 2009, 04:49:17 pm
Built the frame jig last night.  Works great.  Your dimensions were right on. 

David

Great, thanks for letting me know.   The plans where an after thought and unverified, until now :-D
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: TwT on March 27, 2009, 06:39:34 am
Robo, you should do one also on the frame I think is the easiest and best for wood and wax people, the new Kelly frame, it is so easy to install the wax without having to use a wedge.

http://go.netgrab.com/secure/kelleystore/asp/product.asp?product=266
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: MustbeeNuts on March 28, 2009, 06:19:50 pm
Excellent , all videos very informative, nice job!!! I learned lots from watching them.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: MustbeeNuts on March 29, 2009, 09:29:59 am
I also just made the frame jig yesterday, you were so right, I had one of them convaluted spring wing dings. They are a pain compared to the one you have, took me all of an hour to make it. Fast, easy and no hassle to use. Right on! Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: dpence on March 29, 2009, 07:45:20 pm
Went to Harbor Freight yesterday and bought an air stapler and a box of 5000 staples.  My son and I whipped out 50 brood frames in no time today.  No more nails here...LOL.  My wife says I will have more time for the recliner now...LMAO.  I'm thinking -- wonder what I can build now...

David
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Irwin on April 02, 2009, 03:00:59 pm
I just watched your vid's in less time then it took to watch one. Great job thanks
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: jdpro5010 on April 02, 2009, 03:18:04 pm
I just watched your vid's in less time then it took to watch one. Great job thanks
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 :cheer:]   Now that is funny!
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: dpence on April 02, 2009, 03:42:13 pm
Hi-speed is nice isn't it.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Irwin on April 03, 2009, 11:27:33 am
I just watched your vid's in less time then it took to watch one. Great job thanks
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 :cheer:]   Now that is funny!
just got high speed !
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: OldMech on November 09, 2013, 08:51:01 pm

   Frame jig... Honestly havent used one...    I usually glue/nail make sure they are flat, stand them up and use a square to make sure they are straight and drop them in the frame rack on the wall...

   (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/KnitePrince/015.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/KnitePrince/media/015.jpg.html)


   The bar on the right is cut from a 2x 10  the next bar and the one beside it are after trimming it down to one inch giving me the top bar and bottom bar.   Next is after shaving the ends to fit the side plates.. then after shaving the ends to the right depth and cutting them to a 45.. all parts ready to assemble the frame on the left.
   The 2x piece was shaved in the table saw, then both ends routered, and cut to width to make the side plates again using the table saw..  The hardest part is shaving the top bars so they fit correctly.. the side plates can be made FAST and a lot of them, the top bars take time, but work well and add a lot of strength...    Your post has me thinking about making a jig so I can nail up 20 or so of these at a time rather than doing them one at a time. Would certainly speed the process!!!
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Jim 134 on November 18, 2013, 06:32:06 am
May be you will like this one.


http://youtu.be/ULR8F5TBcqQ (http://youtu.be/ULR8F5TBcqQ)




                   BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: itsme on December 07, 2013, 11:05:35 am
I just got 300 frames so I'm going to make the assembly jig.  Seems worth the time.

Thanks for the videos and also for the plans which makes things quite a bit easier for me.  I've printed them off and as soon as I get a good chance I'll work on getting ready for Spring bees!
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: GDRankin on May 21, 2014, 03:22:07 pm
Great stuff and well done vids. Dig'n the woodstock tee as well! :-D
Thanks for taking the time to put these together and post them for us all.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Nico on May 21, 2014, 09:06:39 pm
Hi Robbo,
Great videos, have I missed something on the frame jig? I did not find the thickness of the timber when I downloaded the specs. of the jig.
Regards,
Nico 
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: jayj200 on December 12, 2014, 10:30:36 am
cool
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: donnti on June 12, 2017, 02:48:30 am
I have a stupid question, Why is this post still a sticky post if the links are no longer working or have been updated? I was hoping to see how you made your jig.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Robo on June 12, 2017, 07:37:13 am
I have a stupid question, Why is this post still a sticky post if the links are no longer working or have been updated? I was hoping to see how you made your jig.

Links have been updated.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Acebird on June 12, 2017, 10:51:51 am
Just for fun I built this frame building fixture.
Because there is too much variation in the milling of the parts even when you buy from the same supplier things wouldn't line up from batch to batch to make the assemble glitch free.  Anyway I had fun building it.

https://www.facebook.com/100011367786490/videos/556040678118187/
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Jim 134 on June 13, 2017, 08:07:40 am
Just for fun I built this frame building fixture.
Because there is too much variation in the milling of the parts even when you buy from the same supplier things wouldn't line up from batch to batch to make the assemble glitch free.  Anyway I had fun building it.

https://www.facebook.com/100011367786490/videos/556040678118187/

  Of all the different Jig assemblies. This is the first one that I have seen that. Works off of the outside of the frame. All the other ones I have seen that work well measure off the inside of the frame. Just maybe something you think about. Hope you have a great day.

              Bee HAPPY Jim 134  :smile:
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Jim 134 on June 13, 2017, 08:16:53 am
If you'd like something a little low Tech. Which most Woodworkers can make. This is a jig I would recommend.

https://youtu.be/ULR8F5TBcqQ

        BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :smile:
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: Acebird on June 13, 2017, 10:29:34 am
  Of all the different Jig assemblies. This is the first one that I have seen that. Works off of the outside of the frame.

Look at it again Jim, the stop blocks (gauging) are on the inside of the end bars.  That was not a issue.  The issue was the rabbit in both the top and the bottom of the end bars was not centered the same between lots.  For hand assembly this doesn't matter but when you automate something you have to control the gauging.  In other words every lot must be the same and there is no reason it can't be.  It doesn't cost the supplier any more to make it the same it is just that it doesn't matter to hand assemble so they don't bother.
A large manufacture of frames could take this concept and totally automate it if they had the volume to support the cost of automation.
All I did is cobble up a prototype out of wood.  The concept is sound.
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: tycrnp on August 20, 2017, 12:08:05 am
All very helpful videos.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Frames and Frame Assembly Videos
Post by: little john on August 20, 2017, 05:46:26 am
If you'd like something a little low Tech. Which most Woodworkers can make. This is a jig I would recommend.
Yes, it's a brilliantly simple method.  I made that jig woodwork in two pieces: one being a side and two ends; the other being just one side.  Held together with shock-cord as per video. If you make the ends very slightly under-size, then you can insert shims to cater for (pretty-much unavoidable) variations between manufacturers.  Then, removing those shims makes completed frame extraction so much easier.

A great method.
LJ