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Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: tom on July 04, 2006, 12:20:58 am
Hello

  I was sitting looking at my hives today when i saw a japanese hornet grab one of my workers and kill her but before it could fly off i killed it. If the hornet left would it have brought back her sisters and attack my hive this is the second one i have killed.


Tom
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: Brian D. Bray on July 04, 2006, 01:00:27 am
I believe the Japanese hornet is much like a hawk.  It will kill a worker bee and take it home to eat.  If there are a lot of them around and you only have one hive they may be a problem.  I've found they usually don't do much harm over all.  But then I live in a fairly moderate climate.
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: Jerrymac on July 04, 2006, 03:04:53 am
what is a Japanese hornet???

Surely not those great big killer hornets I've seen on TV where 30 of them wipe out a hive. I didn't think those were in the USA.
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: BeeHopper on July 04, 2006, 08:32:07 am
No way is this bugger here, better check again. These hornets can wipe out a colony in a few hours. (http://www.vespa-crabro.de/mandariania/mandarinia2.jpg)
Title: hornet
Post by: wayne on July 04, 2006, 10:48:48 am
Not sure if it's the same or not but the Pest Control magazines were talking about a new Hornet that was an invasive last year. They are a cavity nester and quite agressive.
  The picture looks right, and they were described as looking alot like Cicada Killers. If it's the same critter they have spread as far north as Indiana. We have them around here.



wayne
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: randydrivesabus on July 04, 2006, 11:42:03 am
so is the one in the picture sedated?
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: TwT on July 04, 2006, 11:42:58 am
as for as I know we do not have Japanese hornets here in the USA, but we do have a European Hornet here that is still moving into new places, here a post I posted awhile back'''''

found one of these hornets flying around me to while I was cooking on the grill, its called the European Hornet and will attack a hive and eat everything. this thing is huge I knocked it down and put it in a jar... first one I ever saw...I thought it was a humming bird at first glance... had to seach the internet to see what it was and this was it


here's a quote from the site below >>>

Workers usually hunt active insects, which they masticate and feed to the larvae in the cells of the nest combs. They have been known to raid bee hives, taking the bees and their larvae and pupae as food, but leaving the honey

http://www.uark.edu/depts/entomolo/museum/crabro.html
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Title: this is a japanese hornet
Post by: tom on July 04, 2006, 12:14:20 pm
Hello


    The picture is right they are the japanese hornet and they are around here. I have killed alot of them using my bottle catcher with sugar and bananna peels and water they seem to love it but i have only killed two at my hives i am going to make some more of my bottles and hang them in the trees. They are mean and i have seen them come to my big hive and try to catch a worker when her back is turned but i kill them but beware if they are around it is best to make some of those bottle  traps and catch them. I catch wax moths and all kinds of bee pest.


Tom
Title: Re: this is a japanese hornet
Post by: TwT on July 04, 2006, 01:54:36 pm
Quote from: tom
Hello


    The picture is right they are the japanese hornet and they are around here. I have killed alot of them using my bottle catcher with sugar and bananna peels and water they seem to love it but i have only killed two at my hives i am going to make some more of my bottles and hang them in the trees. They are mean and i have seen them come to my big hive and try to catch a worker when her back is turned but i kill them but beware if they are around it is best to make some of those bottle  traps and catch them. I catch wax moths and all kinds of bee pest.


Tom



if your sure they are you need to get a few of the hornets and take to a university so they can do their investigation and put the word out about them being in the USA. if they are Japanese giant hornets someone should be told.... the University Of Georgia has not heard of a confirmed case of the Japanese Hornet in the USA... They are researching the European hornets movements....
Title: This is what the old folks call them
Post by: tom on July 04, 2006, 04:47:27 pm
Hello

  All i know is what alot of people call them every since i was a small boy and when i asked some of my beek buddies they called them the same thing these things live in old hollow trees and old walls they are mean only when bothered but alot of people here has been killing them but as far i i know we call them japanese hornets.

Tom
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: ctsoth on July 04, 2006, 04:55:51 pm
You can not accurately tell the species of most any insect or arthropod by just a picture alone...   You would need to send it to a university for examination...  I highly doubt that it is the "japanese" hornet.  I would personally not except that it is until I viewed the results of the study...  Many different species of wasps and hornets look similar, if you are trying to tell one exotic invasive species from another more than a casual glance and some pictures is needed.
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: wayne on July 04, 2006, 05:45:31 pm
The Brown Hornet often called the Japanese Hornet

http://www.vespa-crabro.de/hornets.htm
 
  The real Japanese Giant Hornet

http://www.vespa-crabro.de/manda.htm

wayne
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: Jerrymac on July 04, 2006, 05:51:44 pm
A face only a mother could love


(http://www.vespa-crabro.de/mandariania/manda4.jpg)
Title: They look like twins
Post by: tom on July 04, 2006, 10:17:31 pm
Thanks

   I see that they are look alikes and i was wrong but if they were placed side by side they would be twins  i am glad you cleared it up for me.

Tom
Title: Will japanese hornets hurt a hive
Post by: TwT on July 04, 2006, 10:21:51 pm
Quote from: wayne
The Brown Hornet often called the Japanese Hornet

http://www.vespa-crabro.de/hornets.htm
 
 



that hornet you are calling the brown hornet is the European Hornet, you can tell by the dark tear drop spots on the rear end.....