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Title: Fun with a table saw
Post by: The Bix on December 31, 2010, 04:00:37 am
I and a buddy of mine worked on a few projects with my table saw. It was an enjoyable day.

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Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Robo on December 31, 2010, 08:44:13 am
Nice!

You using a single layer of screen or two?
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: specialkayme on December 31, 2010, 10:45:49 am
looks great
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: nella on December 31, 2010, 11:36:48 am
To make a split I used a screened bottom board and put 2 screens in it, put it on top of the strong hive and the split on top of the sbb, used an entrance reducer untill the split got established on top of the strong hive. It seems to have worked well .
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: The Bix on December 31, 2010, 11:46:21 am
Nice!

You using a single layer of screen or two?

I used a single layer...is that bad?  I used the plans from the Beesource DIY section for the one on the right, and it does call for a screen on both sides of the center board.  I'm curious why that matters. I couldn't find plans for the Imirie shim, so I just took a guess.  The one on the left is a modified version to be used with a 5 frame nuc on top instead of a 10 frame Langstroth.
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Robo on December 31, 2010, 12:04:11 pm
 The theory is that with double screens provide a gap that prevents the bees from communicating through the screen.   The original Snellgrove plans called for it and every plan I have seen also called for it.  I have never tried just one screen, so I can't say it won't work,  but I'm sure someone has.

I can say that I have had large hives with upper and lower entrances that have raised a queen above an excluder though.
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: The Bix on December 31, 2010, 01:02:20 pm
The theory is that with double screens provide a gap that prevents the bees from communicating through the screen.   The original Snellgrove plans called for it and every plan I have seen also called for it.  I have never tried just one screen, so I can't say it won't work,  but I'm sure someone has.

I can say that I have had large hives with upper and lower entrances that have raised a queen above an excluder though.

Thanks Robo, won't be hard to modify them.  I'll just staple another screen down.  Any thoughts about my modified version using a nuc on top instead of a 10-frame?
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Jim134 on December 31, 2010, 01:16:33 pm
 I have use Snellgrove Boards for about 45 years all double screen. Have  never tried just one screen at may or may not work.






   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: The Bix on December 31, 2010, 02:06:53 pm
I have use Snellgrove Boards for about 45 years all double screen. Have  never tried just one screen at may or may not work.
   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)

No sense in trying to reinvent the wheel, I'll just staple another screen onto the other side.
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Robo on December 31, 2010, 03:05:32 pm
Any thoughts about my modified version using a nuc on top instead of a 10-frame?

I think it will work good.  The heat from the lower colony will give the nuc a boost in brood rearing.
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: rdy-b on December 31, 2010, 06:32:18 pm
I have use Snellgrove Boards for about 45 years all double screen. Have  never tried just one screen at may or may not work.






   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)
  bees have sent pads on there feet -so gota keep there feet out of contact with the other half -RDY-B
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: The Bix on December 31, 2010, 11:22:14 pm
Screen stapled to the other side...ready to go...just need Spring to arrive. :)
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Dave360 on December 31, 2010, 11:34:17 pm
never have used a double screened board what are they for

Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: The Bix on January 01, 2011, 12:50:04 am
never have used a double screened board what are they for

Dave,  here's a link for an explanation: http://www.derbyshire-bka.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Snelgrove_Swarm_Control_Method (http://www.derbyshire-bka.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Snelgrove_Swarm_Control_Method)

Also, do a google search for "five things to do with a snelgrove board" and it will provide a iink to an interesting powerpoint presentation
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Jim134 on January 01, 2011, 08:38:14 am
never have used a double screened board what are they for



  You can get the book Swarming:It"s Control & Prevention  by L.E.Snellgrove

    
  http://www.betterbee.com/Products?search=b130 (http://www.betterbee.com/Products?search=b130)
  

        BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Robo on January 01, 2011, 10:11:41 am
Among other things, they are perhaps the safest way to requeen -> http://robo.bushkillfarms.com/beekeeping/queen-introduction/ (http://robo.bushkillfarms.com/beekeeping/queen-introduction/)
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: Jim134 on January 01, 2011, 10:19:28 am
I have the Snellgrove Boards A lot for 2 Queen hives


   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)
Title: Re: Fun with a table saw
Post by: The Bix on January 01, 2011, 01:14:17 pm
I have the Snellgrove Boards a lot for 2 Queen hives


   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)

Mr. 134,

Why do you do two queen hives and how do you set them up?

--John