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SHB Can Sometimes be Horrendous.
« on: August 23, 2020, 01:21:10 pm »
Our friend Cao has reported of a real battle with SHB on another topic. Cao are you making any headway against these pest?

I wonder what it is that Cao is doing? Cao, if you read this, what are you doing being treatment free and yet prospering with steady increases in you colonies? At this time I can not see myself going treatment free in battling these little varmints. lol. 😬

If you are asking about mites, I'm doing nothing special.  This year I'm dealing with SHBs.  I used to think that a strong hive could handle the beetles, but this year I have seen strong hives dwindle under the pressure of the beetles. 500-1000 beetles in a hive can cause havoc to a hive.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2020, 02:26:52 pm »
500-1000 beetles?  That an insane amount of beetles.  Sorry, Cao!!!   Again, this July and August, I battle the beetles and will continue to do so until the ground cools.  This year, I placed lime dust on the dirt in front of each hive.  The lime has helped tremendously.  I did lose a newly created nuc, one of three, a few weeks ago to beetles.

Lastly, I have placed one strong bait hive, directly under an oak, next to the forest, 100 percent shaded all day.  This hive acts as my beetle trap as once a week, I go into this hive and kill all the beetles with hive tool and freeze spray.  The beetles zero in on this all shaded hive on the wood line.

For those battling beetles, I hear you loud and clear.  Which is worse: Varroa or small hive beetle?  Yes

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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2020, 02:36:50 pm »
>Which is worse: Varroa or small hive beetle?

Good question Mr Van.  From my own experience, I would have to say SHB but others may have different experiences.  Yes good question.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2020, 04:26:47 pm »
Agreed Ben, I can treat Varroa.  But small hive beetle has no treatment, only traps and physical means.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2020, 05:44:24 pm »
This year I'm dealing with SHBs.  I used to think that a strong hive could handle the beetles, but this year I have seen strong hives dwindle under the pressure of the beetles. 500-1000 beetles in a hive can cause havoc to a hive.
That is terrible!  I personally haven't had much trouble with them this year.  The previous 2 years for me were much worse.  My hives are on average stronger this year though, so that's probably playing a part in controlling them.  I haven't even put in Swiffers yet.     

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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2020, 05:46:25 pm »
Running "Beetle Jails" helps.
We had a group of 50 hives that were under pressure from SHB. Every hive got a Beetle Jail. Didn't lose a hive'
Another time they took to 2 hives in a group of 100. Took 400 out of one hive with the BJ catching 180 in one session.
They work because they are a baited trap, mixture of honey, pollen water and yeast, with vegetable oil to drown beetles.

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2020, 06:14:05 pm »
I too am struggling with SHB.  I've lost one hive to it this summer already.  But this hive was one of my first hives that I purchased before I started making my own and it has a solid bottom board.  All of the ones I've crafted have screened BB's and I put DE below the screen.  Once I get ahead in production, I'll swap out the remaining few hives that have solid bottoms to screened.  I've just grown my apiary so much this summer, I haven't been able to keep up...  I feel your pain Cao and others battling SHB this year...

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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2020, 06:36:34 pm »
Mr. Beavo, I am trying apple cider vinegar as bait for a beetle trap.  I?ll let folks know if the cider is good as I have been told.

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They work because they are a baited trap, mixture of honey, pollen water and yeast, with vegetable oil to drown beetles.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2020, 07:01:07 pm »
Just got done swapping some solid bottom boards with some that I modified with screens and oil pan.  A couple of the hives were in a very bad mood.  Understandable considering when I pulled the bottom box of the bottom board, it was solid bees chasing beetles.  With probably a hundred or more trapped in the corners.  Every hive was like that.  Unfortunately I got behind with my bees earlier this year and before I new it I had several hives slimed by beetle larva.  That is probably a contributing factor in the beetle numbers that I have now.  Once I get the rest of my bottoms switched over, the pans will have oil in them until The numbers are back in single digits per hive or less.  I don't know how many larva that I have killed this year already but it would probably be close to filling a five gallon bucket.

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2020, 08:12:30 pm »
Seeing a lot more SHB here the last couple weeks.

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2020, 10:12:44 pm »

Mr. Beavo, I am trying apple cider vinegar as bait for a beetle trap.  I?ll let folks know if the cider is good as I have been told.

Cheers

They work because they are a baited trap, mixture of honey, pollen water and yeast, with vegetable oil to drown beetles.

Mr Van, my first year I had SHB problems and by advise of sawdstmakr (Jim), and Paus I built and used oil traps beneath my hives with screen bottoms along with number 8 hardware cloth. I did something a little different than I had read of, not wanting to use so much oil in each hive. I first added water to the bottom pan, then mixed in Apple Cider Vinegar (the mother type). To seal this in I placed a thin layer of oil on top in order to keep the water/vinegar mixture from everaperating . I was very pleased with the results.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2020, 10:35:26 pm »
I read the beetles are attracted to apple cider vinegar.  Whereas honey bees don?t like the apple vinegar so I use apple cider vinegar, sugar, banana peel in my yellow jacket traps and it does keep the honey bees away while trapping hornets and yellow jackets.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2020, 10:51:39 pm »
I do not know if this was an attractant or not in my case. I'm not sure if they could smell the water/vinegar mixture being I had a thin layer of oil floating on top. I do know the beatles were massacred lol  😁

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2020, 11:01:20 pm »
Just got done swapping some solid bottom boards with some that I modified with screens and oil pan.  A couple of the hives were in a very bad mood.  Understandable considering when I pulled the bottom box of the bottom board, it was solid bees chasing beetles.  With probably a hundred or more trapped in the corners.  Every hive was like that.  Unfortunately I got behind with my bees earlier this year and before I new it I had several hives slimed by beetle larva.  That is probably a contributing factor in the beetle numbers that I have now.  Once I get the rest of my bottoms switched over, the pans will have oil in them until The numbers are back in single digits per hive or less.  I don't know how many larva that I have killed this year already but it would probably be close to filling a five gallon bucket.

I am wishing you the best Cao. What you are doing should be a tremendous help. In your extreme case, oil pans are a good choice. It is my experience the oil pans as one avenue, definitely work.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2020, 06:49:53 am »
The bait of honey, pollen, water and yeast ferments a bit and so is the attractant.
Screened bottom boards and oil trays are not practical when shifting every 6-8 weeks. So traps are used. Also they will work for a week or so depending on the SHB load.

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2020, 07:26:17 am »
The bait of honey, pollen, water and yeast ferments a bit and so is the attractant.
Screened bottom boards and oil trays are not practical when shifting every 6-8 weeks. So traps are used. Also they will work for a week or so depending on the SHB load.

You are right Oldbeavo. The oil bottom pan traps are not practical for hives that will need to be moved. I was looking at the huge number of beetles that Cao had in some hives and could see where the oil pan bottoms (oil trays) would, in his case be a big help. Your experiences with The beetle jail may be just as good, even with these larger numbers. Or even better when hives need to be moved.

I have not used the beetle jail. From what I understand the beetle jail is too keep beetles from ever entering a hive? Knowing nothing about beetle jail, can beetles already established inside a hive such as in Caos problem, easily enter into the trap? Is the jail accessible from within the hive or the just outside going into the hive? The reason I ask, I (half) watched half paying attention to a video advertisement saying the beetle jail detoured beetles from entering the hive and wondered about beetles already inside.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2020, 08:08:40 am »
Ben, I may be wrong but I think the Beetle Jail that Oldbeavo is talking about is one that fits inside the hive between the frames. Kev.

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2020, 10:21:30 am »
Yep two different traps with the same name. lol Thanks Kanga for clearing that up. 😊😁

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2020, 11:03:15 am »
There is another product that looks interesting called the beetle barn. I am thinking they use it with a roach bait, but since bees chase beetles anyway a roach bait might not be needed? Placing a small amount of butter flavored Crisco in the center as a bait may very well do the job. I don?t know as I have not tried it or heard of this being suggested. But if the beetles do congregate inside all a keeper would need to do is carry a small bucket of water from hive to hive, dipping the traps in the water drowning all trapped beetles, no chemicals. Just food for thought.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2020, 01:00:18 pm »
I use Sodium meta hexa phosphate in any water use to control any insect such as SHB, wasp, etc. I buy the SMHP from chemical supply house, and use it in the holding tank of my RV and share with other campers.  You can also buy Calgon which the active ingredient  is SMHP.  It is excellent in clothes laundry.  It is found in many foods and is listed in the ingredients of several blended table syrups which makes me wonder if it is not in some store bought honey

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2020, 05:09:31 pm »
Exactly right Kanga, that one will have 150-200 beetles in it. Put it between the outside frames as the beetles don't like to be in the bee traffic. We run them in the supers under the lid for easy access. SHB are often up there to get away from bees.

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2020, 05:33:33 pm »
Just got done swapping some solid bottom boards with some that I modified with screens and oil pan.  A couple of the hives were in a very bad mood.  Understandable considering when I pulled the bottom box of the bottom board, it was solid bees chasing beetles.  With probably a hundred or more trapped in the corners.  Every hive was like that.  Unfortunately I got behind with my bees earlier this year and before I new it I had several hives slimed by beetle larva.  That is probably a contributing factor in the beetle numbers that I have now.  Once I get the rest of my bottoms switched over, the pans will have oil in them until The numbers are back in single digits per hive or less.  I don't know how many larva that I have killed this year already but it would probably be close to filling a five gallon bucket.

Cao:
Indiana?  I though that was to far north for small hive beetle?  Shows what I know.  Looks like Cao has his hands full dealing with the beetles.  Cao, this year I placed a cup full of lime dust in the soil in front of each elevated hive.  This has helped me tremendously.  The larva are burned by the lime dust as they try to bury in the ground as the larva exit the entrance.  The bee hive is about 18 inches above ground so the bees don?t seem to mind the alkaline soil.

Lime is cheap and easy to apply: just place about one cup on the ground below the elevated entrance.

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2020, 06:17:28 pm »
Exactly right Kanga, that one will have 150-200 beetles in it. Put it between the outside frames as the beetles don't like to be in the bee traffic. We run them in the supers under the lid for easy access. SHB are often up there to get away from bees.

That sounds GREAT!  I am glad you brought this up Oldbeavo and glad Kanga explained there is  a difference in beetle jails.  I might have never known.  :shocked: :grin:


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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2020, 01:14:13 pm »
I found this. Kanga and Oldbeavo. It has the same address as the beetle jail that I posted. I am thinking the same company makes each. I like this, especially since you recommend it Oldbeavo. According to this video the trap does not have to have oil in the trapping compartments. I would like to ask you some questions.

Do you need to remove a frame in order to make room for this trap?

If not and the frames are slid tight together, this may leave a wider gap between the frame and hive body wall where the trap may go. Do bees make bur-comb in this area under the trap? If frame is not removed, will bees make bur-comb in the excessive empty places under the trap etc?

Do you use oil in the trapping compartments or just in the bateing compartment?

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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2020, 03:11:17 pm »
I found this. Kanga and Oldbeavo. It has the same address as the beetle jail that I posted. I am thinking the same company makes each. I like this, especially since you recommend it Oldbeavo. According to this video the trap does not have to have oil in the trapping compartments. I would like to ask you some questions.

Do you need to remove a frame in order to make room for this trap?

If not and the frames are slid tight together, this may leave a wider gap between the frame and hive body wall where the trap may go. Do bees make bur-comb in this area under the trap? If frame is not removed, will bees make bur-comb in the excessive empty places under the trap etc?

Do you use oil in the trapping compartments or just in the bateing compartment?

Thanks!
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I use these when the beetles get bad, and I personally do put oil in them.  I would think with live beetles in there, you'd have to freeze it or something to kill them before you opened it, or they'd just fly out.  I just put vegetable oil in the large compartments, and nothing in the baiting compartment.  I have never baited mine, since I'm worried about drawing beetles in.  If you put the trap between the last frame and the wall, where there is a little extra space, you don't need to remove a frame.   
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2020, 03:44:58 pm »
BenFramed, I purchased the beetle jail from amazon.  I use apple cider vinegar to attract and drown the beetles.  The jail fits snugly between the frames, no need to make additional room.  The cider I used evaporated in about a week.  I placed 3 jails in one hive and the traps did catch beetles.  Currently at my apiary, the beetles are few in number this last part of August.  I am not sure why? Drought, maybe?  Limed soil?

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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2020, 05:39:17 pm »
About 1/8" of vege oil in the large sections either side of the bait.
They fit nicely between frame or box, no burr comb.
Never run them without bait. I don't know what triggers the beetles to invade one hive more than others but find that the worst invaded hives can be down on bees.
Though we have had a triple invaded that had plenty of bees.

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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2020, 06:24:01 pm »
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2020, 12:48:05 am »


This is one of the pans on my modified screen bottom boards that I swapped out for the solid bottom.  It has been on there for about a week.  I am about half way done modifying and replacing the bottom boards on my hives. 

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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2020, 01:11:54 am »
Looks like hundreds! You are doing a good job of getting rid of those rascals Cao! How did you set yours up?
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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2020, 02:01:39 am »
Looks like hundreds! You are doing a good job of getting rid of those rascals Cao! How did you set yours up?

Meaning, how did you modify your bottom boards to fit you needs such as pan size, bottom slot for pan, etc.
When I built mine, I could not find the correct size pan for the size of my hives so I custom made pans out of flashing. Your pans look to be common baking pans or similar? I am supposing you cut the holes in the bottom board to complement your pan size. Number 8 hardware cloth? Thanks.
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2020, 10:34:21 am »
The pans were the cheapest that I could find that would fit under both 8 and 10 frame equipment.  They are 6 1/2" x 9 1/2" Wire in Rim Aluminum Bun Pans that were bought at www.webstaurantstore.com for less than $2.50 each.  I milled out holes and covered with #8 hardware cloth.  Then I cut some rails that screw under the bottom board that the pan rests on.  Since I was modifying solid bottoms, I did not want a large pan.  I'll post a couple pics later.

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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2020, 10:45:30 am »
The pans were the cheapest that I could find that would fit under both 8 and 10 frame equipment.  They are 6 1/2" x 9 1/2" Wire in Rim Aluminum Bun Pans that were bought at www.webstaurantstore.com for less than $2.50 each.  I milled out holes and covered with #8 hardware cloth.  Then I cut some rails that screw under the bottom board that the pan rests on.  Since I was modifying solid bottoms, I did not want a large pan.  I'll post a couple pics later.

✔︎ Good Job.

You should have these pest, (SHB) under control soon.
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2020, 12:14:31 pm »
Didn?t see as many SHBs yesterday during inspections.

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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2020, 12:28:01 pm »
Didn?t see as many SHBs yesterday during inspections.

Nock are you doing anything in particular in SHB control?  I noticed a little over a week ago in your post, you had noticed an increase in your hives. Glad to hear things are better.
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Re: SHB Can Sometimes be Horrendous.
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2020, 01:50:21 pm »
Nothing yet. They never have gotten to the point I need step in. I just kill them as I see them.

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Re: SHB Can Sometimes be Horrendous.
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2020, 04:04:13 pm »


This is one of the pans on my modified screen bottom boards that I swapped out for the solid bottom.  It has been on there for about a week.  I am about half way done modifying and replacing the bottom boards on my hives.


Cao, that an incredible number of beetles.  Sorry you have to deal with such.

A few years back, there was a feral hive seeding my apiary: approx, 40 beetles per day.  Finally the feral hive died and my beetle problem was mostly solved.  I still have beetle problems but not like when the feral hive was seeding.  I also placed lime in the soil as previously texted.

I hope your beetles soon freeze, I know the grief,,, all to well.
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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2020, 10:08:15 pm »
https://illawarrabeekeepers.org.au/catching-small-hive-beetle-how-to-prepare-and-deploy-lantern-traps/

Thanks for posting.
I tried this beetle trap last year and I caught honeybees as well as beetles so I do not use.
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Re: SHB Can Sometimes be Horrendous.
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2020, 02:18:58 am »
I've had mixed success and I usually just catch small flys and one or two beetles, occasionally a bee. Could easily mesh over the holes to only allow SHB through.

Currently trying different additives find something more attractive to SHB.

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2020, 06:28:41 am »
Previously in the thread I mentioned the Beetle Jail bait of pollen, honey yeast and water. The yeast will cause the honey to ferment and together with the pollen seems to attract SHB's.
Those who use pollen patties also talk about attracting SHB's.

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Re: SHB Can Sometimes be Horrendous.
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2020, 08:31:07 pm »
Previously in the thread I mentioned the Beetle Jail bait of pollen, honey yeast and water. The yeast will cause the honey to ferment and together with the pollen seems to attract SHB's.
Those who use pollen patties also talk about attracting SHB's.

I really like the idea of the beetle jail. You bait seems like the key. I appreciate you posting of the beetle jail and your bait. Thank you. 
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