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Offline Sydney guy

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Human interference
« on: January 02, 2017, 07:49:42 pm »
Hi all,

I'm curious to why bees are now facing all these problems in the world and I wonder if its just down to human interference. I have only had bees for a bit over a year now and ive helped them out by getting good quality queens and helping with the SHB by using traps but I wonder if this is part of the problem. I know 3 feral colonies in trees that have been there for years, they don't have quality bred queens supplied or any form of SHB traps. Also my uncle had a hive in his yard that had not been touched in around 10 years till I got mine and we did a split and gave them a new queen because they were so aggressive. Maybe this aggressiveness is why it was such a strong hive and had not one single SHB. Maybe its time to leave the bees to develop on there own again and not interfered with by humans. This is completely just a thought of mine and not based on any form of scientific research or fact. Just interested to know what others think??

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Re: Human interference
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2017, 08:31:49 pm »
:-) you can do it as a backyard beek.
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Re: Human interference
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2017, 09:24:29 pm »
What do you mean Acebird? You think I should try my thought out? You would probably need to try it out in a isolated area. My new bees may have already affected the feral hives by breeding with them.

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Re: Human interference
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2017, 09:27:08 pm »
I would really like to see inside these feral hives but they are way out of my reach even with a ladder lol.

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Re: Human interference
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2017, 09:02:39 am »
My new bees may have already affected the feral hives by breeding with them.

What you are hoping for is the opposite.  You want your production bees to gain the survivability of the feral bees without picking up the aggressiveness.  Your interference becomes simply eliminating the colonies (or just the queen) that don't meet your criteria and letting the ones die that can't make it on their own.  As a back yard beek you can afford to do this.  However it would be a poor business model for a sustainable income.  I maintain only three hives.  Most of the ones that died on me were because I did something stupid.  So if you can read about all the stupid mistakes that people make with their bees and not do it yourself you are further ahead.  It is harder then you think.  I have been pretty creative on coming up with new mistakes.
Some people try to use just feral bees.  But these bees are not very productive and they swarm a lot.  I think you are better off taking the advantage of many years of professional breeding until you find one that can make it through it first year and then splitting to gain the feral genetics in your area.
Many people claim they get good production from feral bees and cut outs but how do they know that the bees are actually feral and not just a swarm from a managed hive?  The one thing you have control of as a beekeeper is the hive (structure).  You can replace comb and move it around.  A feral bee has to leave (abandon) the hive so another insect can come in to clean it out.  Once cleaned out another swarm can come in and make new.  That is the only way a feral bee can rotate out old comb.  Keep in mind that most feral hives are small in comparison to a managed hive.
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