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charentejohn:
Just tripped over the problem of being TF and asking a question in a section (organic and natural) that is not really best placed there.
TF is different as there are many organic compounds used that are not TF.  Fine for those who use them but muddys the water, having asked about varroa was advised to treat them, presumable OA or formic, ok but a TF section would be a help the likes of me 

Ben Framed:

--- Quote from: charentejohn on October 11, 2020, 04:18:39 pm ---Just tripped over the problem of being TF and asking a question in a section (organic and natural) that is not really best placed there.
TF is different as there are many organic compounds used that are not TF.  Fine for those who use them but muddys the water, having asked about varroa was advised to treat them, presumable OA or formic, ok but a TF section would be a help the likes of me 

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John if you are referring to your last topic under that heading, I will say,; f you want a new treatment free Only heading, separate from organic and treatment free combined, I?m for you if that is what you want but in all fairness in that organic and treatment free category, on your very first post, you did say:

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>I was thinking of some small treatment to 'wean them off' treatments but as queens are first year they have only seen chemicals once. <

That suggestion coming from you, did not sound so treatment free to me? Is that fair?

It appeared sawdstmkr answered you along those lines of thought from your suggestion. At least that is the way I understood it?  😊   Isn?t that an unfair foul on your part? 😊.  Maybe I missed something? If so please advise. Thanks.

charentejohn:
That's the topic.  The wean them off part says this and can be interpreted many ways I suppose.  What was meant was the last bit - What I have now is new workers from whatever drones were around, so best chance to do nothing I think I will get.
I thought this (and all my other TF posts) would have made sure this was what I meant, maybe not.  I thought the best chance to do nothing bit would have given my intentions.  It was, I thought, not a question but a statement else I would have said something like I may be able to do nothing.
From the previous post -
I was thinking of some small treatment to 'wean them off' treatments but as queens are first year they have only seen chemicals once.  There will be some in the foundation but they have built their own now in the warre boxes and all treated workers are long gone.   What I have now is new workers from whatever drones were around, so best chance to do nothing I think I will get.

A TF section would get around this sort of misunderstanding as it would at least eliminate the chemical options.  The other options that require frame pulling (I won't have frames eventually) are a 50/50 thing.

The15thMember:
I think that the reason you seem to have trouble getting quality help, John, is that there are so few people on this forum who are truly treatment FREE.  Michael Bush and cao come to mind, but other than them, I'm not sure there is anyone else who is doing absolutely nothing to control varroa.  (Sorry if I've forgotten anyone else who is being successful at this goal.)  I think the other issue is that I don't believe anyone at all is running warres other than you, and the management style is so different with a warre (since intervention of really any kind is challenging because there are no frames) that I'm not sure how much help most people can offer you that is relevant to your situation.  I don't say any of this to dissuade you from practicing your chosen style of hive management, only trying to offer some insight into why is it that no one seems to be able to provide you the help you are looking for.       

Ben Framed:
Thanks John, I did not go back and look at your older post on other topics. I was specifically referring to the one you are talking about now and the words there, being it was a new topic. I do not know what the administrators will do about creating a dedicated TF section only. I agree that it might eliminate confusion? I have been posting here for about 2 1/2 years and noticed from time to time some strictly TF folks, reaching the point of being offended when a fellow member, suggesting in good faith, treating organically. Perhaps you are right, a total TF section dedicated to and for you TF folks may eliminate confusion of this type? I am just a fellow member so I have no say in this one way or the other.

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