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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. => Topic started by: Michael Bush on December 15, 2020, 02:37:05 pm
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Some college students have contacted me about a project they are working on to make a hive monitoring tool. The survey is on Google. I tried it to make sure there was nothing nefarious. They would appreciate your input.
https://forms.gle/e8pi9DkhKZ1ppxnNA
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Taken! :smile:
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X2
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Done
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Submitted
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I took it, I'm curious the emphasis on temperature. How would temperature/distribution be useful for remote monitoring?
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Matt,
For one thing, it would tell you the size of the brood area or lack there of.
Jim Altmiller
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Done. :)
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Servey is done.
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I think you could tell most everything that a sensor would tell you if you put a temperature sensor in the brood nest and one at the top and then analyzed the differences between those two and the fluctuations. And you had a microphone and analyzed the sound. The differences in temperatures and the fluctuations would tell you if it's a strong colony or a weak one. Maybe even tell you if the top box is oocupied or not, which would tell if you need to add a super. A weak colony has trouble maintaining a constant temperature in the brood nest. The sound could tell you if they are being robbed, about to swarm, or are queenless. You would need a computer probably to do a good analysis of those situations, but from having an observation hive in my living room I think you could program it to tell.
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Survey completed.
As for what data can be gathered, is helpful, and is of value: check out the graphs of some of these
https://map.beecounted.org/citizen_science/embedded_map
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Done.
Sal
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Done.
I suppose they want all different levels of beeks.
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Survey completed.
As for what data can be gathered, is helpful, and is of value: check out the graphs of some of these
https://map.beecounted.org/citizen_science/embedded_map
Wow ! That is the first time I ever really spent time looking at temperature data for a hive (looked at a Rochester NY hive). You really CAN see cluster movement. That is quite interesting!
I have been successfully avoiding spending the money for electronic hive monitoring.
Darn you HoneyPump ! You're going to "make" me spend money! :wink: :grin:
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Survey completed.
As for what data can be gathered, is helpful, and is of value: check out the graphs of some of these
https://map.beecounted.org/citizen_science/embedded_map
You can see them move up on this one. https://map.beecounted.org/hive/summary/h5LO
Pretty neat! I could use it for sure. Tho it would be a different sort of experience, reading a graph vs reading a brood frame. especially at scale.
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I took it, I'm curious the emphasis on temperature. How would temperature/distribution be useful for remote monitoring?
Matt,
For one thing, it would tell you the size of the brood area or lack there of.
Jim Altmiller
I think you could tell most everything that a sensor would tell you if you put a temperature sensor in the brood nest and one at the top and then analyzed the differences between those two and the fluctuations. And you had a microphone and analyzed the sound. The differences in temperatures and the fluctuations would tell you if it's a strong colony or a weak one.
It's unreal what you can learn with a few sensors. Some kid turned me onto these Govee bluetooth temp/humidity sensors on Amazon for ~$14. I bought a couple, then decided to buy several more. I have one on my porch for a control. I have them on top of frames between sugar bricks, in 10-frame hives of several sizes/strengths as well as Lyson 6-frame poly nucs.
They make a WiFi model for about $35, but I decided I didn't need to be checking them all day from work or other places on earth. I can get a reading on some from my back door, and the rest from my kitchen window (they broadcast every 2 minutes). I have one strong colony that's cranked up heat and started brooding (pollen sub outside may have been a mistake, we'll see), and another that was started late and robbed. Don't think they would make it but now they are over a double-screen board enjoying a strong colony's heat. Admittedly, it's just nice to know everyone's alive without resorting to other methods.
I haven't aggregated any data or drawn any conclusions. Also, never even thought about the microphone thing so thanks Mr. Bush. I can tell you that if I would have made predictions about the temp/humidity of these hives I would have been wrong. Come to think of it, if I'd made predictions about anything bee-related, I'd be wrong so don't go by that.