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Ben Framed:

--- Quote from: The15thMember on October 11, 2020, 07:24:35 pm ---I think that the reason you seem to have trouble getting quality help, John, is that there are so few people on this forum who are truly treatment FREE.  Michael Bush and cao come to mind, but other than them, I'm not sure there is anyone else who is doing absolutely nothing to control varroa.  (Sorry if I've forgotten anyone else who is being successful at this goal.)  I think the other issue is that I don't believe anyone at all is running warres other than you, and the management style is so different with a warre (since intervention of really any kind is challenging because there are no frames) that I'm not sure how much help most people can offer you that is relevant to your situation.  I don't say any of this to dissuade you from practicing your chosen style of hive management, only trying to offer some insight into why is it that no one seems to be able to provide you the help you are looking for.     

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I agree with you Member and very well said Ms Member. I for one am for you John with TF that being your desire. I for one do not know how to help you, but as Member said there are some here that do. I feel like beemaster is a good place to be for any beekeeper, whether proffesional or strictly amature with one or two hives. There seems to be something here for everyone and someone here to help in every need. 

charentejohn:
Good point 15th, I was heading to that conclusion myself.  This is a very good forum in the way it is run and the membership so no problems with that.
I don't mind if people aren't TF and don't have any help to offer, then no need to reply unless they can see a serious problem and want to mention it.  The fameous Scot Mc Pherson's video on non Tf keepers helping Tf keepers with general keeping questions and support is spot on.

I know the organic, natural and TF definitions are blurred but I do think they are a group so should probably be together.  They overlap, please no arguing the detail of this just an example of some areas.  For instance organic can relate to such as no foundation, untreated crops, OA/formic, natural can be log hives or tree hives only and TF is never touching a hive.  All things can bleed into one another most but not all log hives are TF, some natural keepers wll use foundation, TF can involve manipulation.

I often post things just to pass on information, as in this case really, and ask for confirmation.  The idea was to say I had some ideas for people to think about.
Lots of posts here are like that just saying what has happened and sort of asking if others have had the same.  Doesen't have to be from a TF person as, in this case, varroa and brood levels over winter are a general thing only difference is I won't be treating.
The points in that post were, low varroa in winter should give me similar spring numbers to the ones I had when they arrived ?  Also to pass on the thought that as totally TF bees are hard to find (even swarms could be from anywhere) the idea of starting with a first year queen, even if treated once, is as good as most people will get.

My solution is I will put TF in my heading to identify it so people can see what it relates to, I did that a couple of time previously. Putting TF will show that it is that aspect I am looking at, problem solved.

Acebird:

--- Quote from: charentejohn on October 11, 2020, 04:18:39 pm ---Just tripped over the problem of being TF and asking a question in a section (organic and natural) that is not really best placed there.

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Another forum has had a TF category and it doesn't work the way you think.  This forum is far more civil but you still will get post from people suggesting you treat.  There are very few TF beekeepers on forums so the category becomes stale.  There aren't enough post on any topic that you can't just breeze through to what you are looking for.

charentejohn:
I am on a few TF type groups, one group one FB and one forum.  You are right there isn't much there as it is not a place with much going on, that said I do like them as they offer information as much if not more than discussion.
From a logistics ? point of view that seems right, other forums or parts of forums have diverse things to talk about.  The, what did you do with then bees today ?  Nothing.  Becomes a little limited  :smile:  I find they are more a place, like David Heaf's, where people tend to share info for people to ponder that get a couple of comments and additional info links.

Like I say no worries though, I will just put TF or Natural in my headings in that category to identify their content so people can skip them if they want.
As an example when I have a full year's varroa info I will let people know so they can think about it and make of it what they will.  Till then ttfn on this thread as they say  :smile:

Acebird:
There you go.  That is what you should do.  And if you get comments on giving up TF you can ignore them like I have.  As I said this is them most civil forum I have been on.  Good luck to you.

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