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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING => Topic started by: Jburkey on April 07, 2017, 07:59:04 pm

Title: euodia danielli
Post by: Jburkey on April 07, 2017, 07:59:04 pm
Anyone know where i might be able to find some euodia danielli(bee bee tree) plants? Seems to be popular with many overseas beekeepers but hard to find down here.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 07, 2017, 09:10:29 pm
I give up.  Where's down here?
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: max2 on April 07, 2017, 10:08:57 pm
" Down under"  is Australia.

I don't think you can find trees in Australia - maybe seed.
Watch out - could be next weed!!
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 08, 2017, 05:19:20 am
Not necessarily, in th south of the USA we also call it down here.
Jim
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: max2 on April 08, 2017, 07:31:48 am
But this is the " down under" forum:) - the REAL Down Under. Not the Down South Down Under
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 08, 2017, 08:20:22 am
" Down under"  is Australia.

All of Australia has one climate?  The small islands of Hawaii have 11 out of the 13 climate zones.  I haven't been to Australia but there must be more than one climate zone.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Jburkey on April 08, 2017, 03:20:00 pm
WOWZA! thanks guys. Didn't think i needed to explain that i was in Australia on a down under forum page.
Thanks max2. Yeah I've heard it could possibly become weedy.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: 220 on April 08, 2017, 06:28:04 pm
Think Acebirds comments are due to a lack of location in your profile, location does make a difference to the replies you will get to any questions you ask.

Acebird the USA style climate maps are rarely used in AUS, all of Aus falls into zones 7-13 and probably 95% in zones 8-11, zones 9-10 cover around 80% of the country and probably over 90% of the population so as far as many are concerned there is only one climate zone.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: max2 on April 08, 2017, 07:07:45 pm
Hi Brian,

Australia is the only continent with ALL climate zones.

We have the wet Tropics up North  and go right down to Alpine in Tasmania and parts of NSW.

You need to visit!!

Few people realize that OZ has more land under snow ( in winter) then Switzerland.

Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Geoff on April 08, 2017, 07:54:47 pm

    Just a bit of refinement, here in Gippsland, Victoria, Australia it is not an unusual occurrence to have 4 climates in the one day let alone the different seasons. Hot dry summers and dry cold winters combined with all the other variations. These deep thoughts have just been inspired by the thunder booming in my ears right now and the beautiful autumn rain belting onto the window next to me.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 08, 2017, 08:25:27 pm
Australia is the only continent with ALL climate zones.
Pardon my ignorance but is Australia a continent and a country?  It just seems to me that with such a land mass surrounded by a whole lot of water there would be different things happening in different areas.
I would love to visit.  I am told the woman have nice hooters.  LOL
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Geoff on April 08, 2017, 08:45:04 pm


Australia is both a country and a continent Acebird, as for the last comment you had better come and judge for yourself. Make it to Melbourne and you have got a bed. Airfares Melbourne to LA available at the moment for AU $1000 return.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 08, 2017, 08:56:40 pm
I am on the east coast.  Is it still shorter to go over LA?
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: max2 on April 08, 2017, 09:19:10 pm
Brian - unlike in the US you don't have to take your shoes off at our airports but talking about " hooters"  will get you into hot water...or 6 moths in jails...or both. And I'm not joking.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 08, 2017, 09:30:06 pm
No kidding?  Certainly not what is portrayed about the country here.  I have heard it as what use to be the wild wild west in this country many years ago.  If I have offended you please accept my apologies.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: max2 on April 08, 2017, 09:38:31 pm
Brian - no kidding. Some of our roads are now sealed, many towns now have electricity, even phones.

OK, our internet connection is slower then Cambodia and many of us are living in mud houses.

We are quite modern here - you have to leave your gun at home.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: 220 on April 08, 2017, 10:47:10 pm
Brian - no kidding. Some of our roads are now sealed, many towns now have electricity, even phones.

OK, our internet connection is slower then Cambodia and many of us are living in mud houses.

We are quite modern here - you have to leave your gun at home.

I don't know about that I still have unsealed road to the farm, had no electricity this morning when I got up and had to revert to boiling the jug on gas to make a cuppa and our landline hasn't worked for nearly 2 years although my internet is quite good.

Given how generous our deer seasons are (6-12months) for most species it might be worth bringing a rifle, not overly difficult to bring them in and out just a bit of paperwork to do.


Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 08, 2017, 11:16:39 pm
I wasn't saying anything about being modern.  There are areas of this country without power.  Really, I didn't mean any disrespect.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Milo on April 08, 2017, 11:32:37 pm
Follow the link below to a map that give a better view of climate in Australia.

Linky-link (http://www.bom.gov.au/iwk/climate_zones/map_1.shtml)

Also Australia is just about the same size as continental USA. Just lookup Australia overlaid on USA
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 09, 2017, 08:45:14 am
Looks to be quite a bit of variation.
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: 220 on April 09, 2017, 05:34:26 pm
Yep snowing in the south east of the country and temps around 100f in the north west.
The big difference between Aus and USA is minimum temp, while a lot of Aus does see minimum temps below freezing temps below the mid teens f (-10c) are almost unheard of as are daytime winter temps below freezing.
Im in one of the colder areas we get snow annually 60+ nights below freezing yet our coldest month of the year still has a daytime average of 10c (50f) and minimum average of -0.1c (32f).

Im not far from the highest town in Australia, snowing there yesterday and more predicted for today. They usually spend 3 months under snow but by USA standards still have a very mild winter. Coldest month has a average max of 3.6c (39f) and minimum of -0.8c (30f)
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Milo on April 09, 2017, 05:40:45 pm
That's right Acebird

So your initial question of 'where's down here' is absolutely warranted and should stand despite all the blah blah blah this is the down under section...  :grin:

Rather than the temperate zone I would put myself in the 'freaking dry hot summer/dry cold winter busted up with floods zone'
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: 220 on April 09, 2017, 05:58:16 pm
USA style climate map for Aus

https://www.diggers.com.au/media/products/144986/l.jpg
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Nico on April 09, 2017, 07:16:38 pm
Re Digger's climate map- it would be interesting to see a comparison map of the max average temp. for the last 20 years of Aust.
Nico
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Milo on April 09, 2017, 07:29:34 pm
Linky-link (http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/climate_averages/decadal-temperature/index.jsp?maptype=3&period=8605&product=max#maps)

Tag! Your turn
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Nico on April 09, 2017, 07:37:00 pm
Milo read last 7 words in my previous reply
Nico
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Milo on April 09, 2017, 07:39:46 pm
Yeah that link will do exactly that the decadel averages, 10 20 or 30 years and choose the timeframe

Now if you want the maximums without averaging you would need to do it by year

Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Milo on April 09, 2017, 07:42:38 pm
Ahh I see... Cut off is 2005


Post tenebras lux
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Milo on April 09, 2017, 07:57:02 pm
My apologies to OP but this is somewhat fun

Increase in temp since 70s Linky-link (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/index.shtml#tabs=Tracker&tracker=trend-maps)

Maybe a mod will split the thread
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Nico on April 09, 2017, 08:08:50 pm
Touche lets get back to trees n bees
Nico
Title: Re: euodia danielli
Post by: Acebird on April 09, 2017, 10:12:01 pm
That's right Acebird

So your initial question of 'where's down here' is absolutely warranted and should stand despite all the blah blah blah this is the down under section...  :grin:

Rather than the temperate zone I would put myself in the 'freaking dry hot summer/dry cold winter busted up with floods zone'

Yeah well it is my belief that temperature is not a detriment to honeybees as much as moisture is.  Our friends in Canada keep bees.  Sure as you go further north you have to change your management and timing but bees survive, I would say better than desert conditions.  It is way easier to provide heat then water.