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Title: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 02:36:24 am
Please read this press release:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-24/varroa-mite-detected-at-newcastle-port/101180446

This is not an ideal time to inspect hives in many parts of Australia...BUT if at all possible I urge beekeepers to check hives, do an Alcohol Wash if you are anywhere near the location.

I have written to the Federal Minister for Ag and hope that if enough beekeepers write, swift action will follow.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 02:39:57 am
Here is a great instruction regarding an alcohol wash:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=how+to+do+an+alcohol+wash#kpvalbx=_zE21YoKXNN7Fz7sP04W9wAY16
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 24, 2022, 08:55:10 am
Max that is big news, but not good news. I hope y'all have caught the situation in time. I have a question, does your country have wild bees, (feral hives), in the same area? If so, these could become 'uninhibited' breeding grounds for Varroa Destructor.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on June 24, 2022, 10:46:40 am
Oh man, hopefully you guys can somehow get it under control before it spreads.  What a shame. 
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 08:27:24 pm
Hi Ben,

Newcastle is quite a long way away from us here and I'm not up with the local situation.

I would assume that there would be wild nests of honey bees in the forested areas near the port - say withing 5 km.

SHB have knocked the wild population here and I would expect a similar situation there.

The information is still poor. I understand that the swarm was found at the port but ...maybe on an arriving ship? I will keep you posted.

I have sent out e-mails to many beekeeping friends but mostly elderly they often don't use e-mails as a means of communication.
I'm partially deaf and hardly use the phone.

I will visit a good beekeeping friend who has connections with the beekeeping organisations.

max


Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 08:31:10 pm
Thhis has just come in:

https://honeybee.org.au/varroa-mite-detected-at-the-port-of-newcastle/

It looks like the authorities are taking it seriously....and have success!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 24, 2022, 10:36:44 pm
Thanks Max, wishing you the best.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 25, 2022, 12:41:00 pm
Hi Max, I have sent to you a PM.

Below is a video just put out by Richard Noel of Brittany France. Richard is a hard enemy of Varroa Destructor. I introduced Richard previously a couple years ago here at Beemaster on another topic. See the topic here at Beemaster: "Treat for No Treaters"

Richard, as we are, is VERY concerned about (Varroa Destructors') recently found presence in your Australia. Hopefully these concerns will be short lived as the beekeeping community in your country will have things nicely under control. I am enclosing a video he just put out with some of his thoughts on the matter.

Phillip


https://youtu.be/dD7mb-zD2yY
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on June 25, 2022, 05:01:40 pm
Thanks for your support guys....fingers crossed Max!

We have been through this before in the port of Townsville which is up here in North QLD and we managed to contain it. Let's hope we have been successful this time as well.

Arrrh...very scary!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 25, 2022, 07:38:16 pm
Yes, thanks for the video and concern.

I have written to the fellow who is in charge of the operation and will keep you posted if I hear some news.

Lots of questions...
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 27, 2022, 02:27:32 am
Here is the lastest:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-27/beekeepers-suffer-multi-million-dollar-set-back-deadly-parasite/101185494

I had a meeting with 3 other beekeepers - professional ones, not small hobby ones. Interesting to note that the avearage age of the four of us is 74!

I understand that the beekeepers who have their hives destroyed will be compensated .

As you can see in the article noy only are beekeeprs affected but with the movemnet of hives banned for now, the Almond industry and other Horticultural crops will be affected.

It may well be the wake-up call the country and our leaders needs.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 27, 2022, 04:43:27 am
The latest:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-27/what-is-varroa-mite-and-how-will-it-impact-australias-honey/101185714
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 27, 2022, 09:04:05 pm
Thanks for the updates Max.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 28, 2022, 02:55:03 am
Sorry, but there is not good news:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-28/bee-eradication-nsw-government-control-varroa-mite/101188568
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on June 28, 2022, 12:06:07 pm
Max, am I correct in remembering that varroa was introduced to Australia several years ago, like 2014 I think, and was successfully eradicated?  I feel like I remember seeing articles from around that time and it was gotten under control again, but maybe I'm incorrect. 
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 28, 2022, 07:12:18 pm
You are correct.
I think they found Asian Bees in the Cairns area and the area was declared varroa free some time back.

It seems this incursion is much more serious.

Reading between the lines ( I hope I'm wrong) this time varroa was around for some time before it was noticed.

Of course we all hope that it can be erradicated - time will tell.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 29, 2022, 12:07:36 am
More bad news - Varroa is spreading...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-29/varroa-mite-red-zones-added-in-nsw-hives-to-be-destroyed/101191926
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on June 29, 2022, 12:27:39 am
Not good Max

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 29, 2022, 12:28:18 am
It had once seemed to me that a 'thought to be' blind, slow moving, tick looking tiny bug would be slow to move, slow to spread. However, after viewing a video that The15Member posted here a time ago, showing a varroa mite 'seeming to jump' as a paper clip might be drawn to a magnet. The speed and distance of the varroas' move was a real eye opener for me. Perhaps Reagan will repost it here for you all if she can can find it...

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Jim134 on June 29, 2022, 05:53:37 am
At will be very difficult to get rid of all the Varroa );


        BEE HAPPY  Jim134   :smile:
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on June 29, 2022, 08:25:22 am
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on June 29, 2022, 12:20:09 pm
It had once seemed to me that a 'thought to be' blind, slow moving, tick looking tiny bug would be slow to move, slow to spread. However, after viewing a video that The15Member posted here a time ago, showing a varroa mite 'seeming to jump' as a paper clip might be drawn to a magnet. The speed and distance of the varroas' move was a real eye opener for me. Perhaps Reagan will repost it here for you all if she can can find it...

Phillip
I think FloridaGardener actually posted that first, let me see if I can dig it up. 

Edit: Here it is.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oij1HOxD3iU
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 29, 2022, 09:55:51 pm
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?

I agree NigleP. Though not a death sentence, this news is a hit below the belt.
Lets consider:
Even if every single domestic hive which has varroa is eradicated, feral bees which may be affected and harboring Varroa Destructor are still a breeding ground and a solid bridge for varroa. If just 'one' feral hive having varroa is missed, then the spread starts all over again. Millions of dollars wasted not counting the heartbreak and heartache.

I will in no way try and dissuade efforts to control this pest by any method or means our friends see fit to try and deem necessary. At the end of the day they must be able to say "we did our best and we controlled the problem", or "we did our best even if the problem is not solved".

Whether a successful eradication of varroa or not; It may well be time for our friends Down Under to educate themselves about Varroa Destructor if they haven't already...
There is LOADS of GREAT information here at Beemaster for your convenience concerning 'every conceivable aspect' of Varroa; From research papers posted from all over the world concerning every aspect of varroa, including treatment methods along with the breakdown of treating tools. The Search engine at the top of the page, might be a best friend to our friends from DownUnder at this time, win, lose, or draw...

I think it is safe to say, if we at Beemaster can be of aid, please call on us. Not only will the staff try and help but our many members from all over will try and help as well. I say this with complete confidence.

Sincerely,

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 30, 2022, 12:23:40 am
Further restrictions:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-30/victoria-and-queensland-ban-bees-from-nsw-amid-varroa-outbreak/101196640

I'm located in Queensland - the staet just North of NSW .

It is interesting to note that the introduction of Honey is also banned.

Many of us have pushed for the ban of introduced honey from Varroa areas for a long time.

Our local supermarkets purchased 50 kg of honey from me just today. Covid has made a lot of people aware that we have to become more self sustaining locally and honey is just one item.

It will be interesting to see how this will unfold...in a few weeks time.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on June 30, 2022, 03:46:51 am

Many of us have pushed for the ban of introduced honey from Varroa areas for a long time.

What is the rationale behind that idea?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on June 30, 2022, 06:30:51 am
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?

Yes...everyone else around the globe has learnt to deal with them but obviously we still dont want them!

Even if there is a slight chance of eradicating them i say go for it 100%. Most of our Aussie beekeepers are happy to sacrifice their hives to fight this invasion...yes it's a shame to destroy hives, let's hope it's not in vane.

There has been a massive media push here highlighting the threat in an attempt to raise awareness.

Although our chances of eradicating this incursion are becoming less likely its still possible.

We dont have to eradicate every feral hive in the red zone, not every colony has the mites (yet). But every colony destroyed increases the odds of success.


Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 30, 2022, 07:34:58 am
more...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-30/varroa-mite-red-zone-added-near-newcastle/101198984
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 30, 2022, 07:17:12 pm
Valuable genetics at risk at Tocal: https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-07-01/varroa-mite-threatens-tocal-ag-college-queen-bee-research/101196944
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on June 30, 2022, 09:14:57 pm
My understanding through my sources is that >100hives is compensated so there is no financial incentive to hobbyists.
Feral colonies are likely to be poisoned open fed with fipronil.
Although it?s unlikely the eradication program will work if the outbreak is as bad as it seems, and it does seem to be worse than originally thought it is worth the attempt. The ?oh well it was always going to happen? attitude riles me. I?ve heard it regarding hive beetles here in the SW yet it is still contained and we enjoy the benefits.
Fingers crossed.
Sometimes living in one of the most remote cities in the world has its benefits.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 01, 2022, 08:44:53 am
Will killing 'SOME' feral bees in these areas be good enough?

"We're also looking at a release of chemical in certain parts of those eradication zones which will help nullify some of the feral populations that we know exist."

"These latest discoveries mean that we've got, potentially, a widespread issue and we need to be extremely vigilant about how we're dealing with the disease," he said.

"The next few days will really tell whether we're perhaps able to hopefully control this or how widespread the actual situation is."


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-29/varroa-mite-red-zones-added-in-nsw-bees-hives-to-be-destroyed/101191926
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 01, 2022, 11:41:46 am
It has been determined that Varroa can not live more than 5 days without a host which is a promising good thing.

Honest Questions:

If all domesticated managed hives are completely destroyed in the kill zones, what will become of the bees which may have missed the eradication process while out forging, which may host live varroa? Will they beg into unknown feral hives? The same question for eradicated hives on the outer limits of the kill zone. What will become of the forging bees which no longer have a home. Can they simply find their way to a hive 'outside' of the eradication zone, or an unknown feral hive 'outside or inside' the kill zone? Will they beg into a nearby hive, bringing with them the varroa they may have in their possession, (on their person)?

If a feral hive is eradicated (killed on the spot) with a 'certain chemical' which was suggested in the article I posted earlier, will the chemical kill the capped brood in these feral hives as well where varroa may be living and developing? Will this varroa survive? Will the varroa emerge from the capped brood and live for 5 days, allowing time for a robber bee from another unknown feral hive to come along allowing themselves to becoming a brand new Varroa host?

Most likely the officials there In Australia have already asked themselves these very same questions and probably many more? If so, what are their answers?

Varroa Mites | Texas Apiary Inspection Service (TAIS)
They are spread within a colony when bees come into contact with one another. Mites are also spread between colonies and apiaries via robbing, drifting, swarming, and absconding. Varroa mites are unable to live for more than a few days without a host and therefore, you will not find Varroa mites in a dead out hive.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on July 01, 2022, 12:42:25 pm
An article in ABJ by Randy Oliver showed some of his marked bees ended up in different apiaries of his approx 5? miles away.....
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 01, 2022, 05:36:29 pm
Quote from: Skeggley it is worth the attempt. The ?oh well it was always going to happen? attitude riles me.
[/quote

Me too Skeggley.

Even controlling the spread could give you guys decades over there if its done properly.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 01, 2022, 05:40:08 pm
It has been determined that Varroa can not live more than 5 days without a host which is a promising

It is Ben...thanks for that fact I was not aware.

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 02, 2022, 01:03:24 am

Thank you The15thMember and thank you FloridaGardener.

Phillip



It had once seemed to me that a 'thought to be' blind, slow moving, tick looking tiny bug would be slow to move, slow to spread. However, after viewing a video that The15Member posted here a time ago, showing a varroa mite 'seeming to jump' as a paper clip might be drawn to a magnet. The speed and distance of the varroas' move was a real eye opener for me. Perhaps Reagan will repost it here for you all if she can can find it...

Phillip
I think FloridaGardener actually posted that first, let me see if I can dig it up. 

Edit: Here it is.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oij1HOxD3iU
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 02, 2022, 04:21:59 am
Varroa is spreading South - very close to Sydney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1coHT0KUQ
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 02, 2022, 04:41:29 pm
Thanks Max

Unfortunatly that makes me think it may have arrived some time ago.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 02, 2022, 04:43:35 pm
Thanks Max

Unfortunatly that makes me think it may have arrived some time ago.

Bee North, I do not know how fast in actuality they can spread in ideal circumstance, but I am wondering the same as you;
 "how long have they really been here."
🤷🏼‍♂️

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 02, 2022, 04:54:30 pm
Just curious, are they testing hives Nation Wide? Or as far over as
Alice Springs, or further down towards Melbourne and Adelaide?

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 02, 2022, 11:32:29 pm
Directives can vary from state to state.

QLD, where I'm from, have closed their borders to all bees, equipment and products etc from NSW....NSW hives etc are at a standstill.

They (Biosecurity QLD) have also suggested we monitor and check our hives for varroa and report any findings with instructions on the various methods etc.

In QLD you must register your hives and conduct regular inspections for pests and diseases, document findings and report listed diseases such as AFB.





Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 03, 2022, 06:59:05 pm
Just arrived home from a holiday out west. Looks like our worst fears are coming to reality. With spring and swarm season only a couple of months away, I am guessing an explosion in the spread of mite numbers will occur as the bees become more active. I?m only about 400km from the outbreak so I will expect to see the little critters on my door step before summer.  While away we went past a few almond plantations. They must be concerned at the moment due to the ban on bee movement. Haven?t checked yet but I expect my hives will be full of honey. Won?t be able to extract until we get the OK to do so.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 03, 2022, 08:18:15 pm
Les,
What does extracting honey have to do with the spread of mites, especially if you are doing it on site.
I definitely would not haul supers around but mites can?t hide in honey.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: D C Boon on July 03, 2022, 09:44:13 pm
We're banned throughout NSW from moving or "tampering" with our hives (yes, that is actually the word they used. What it means is anyone's guess, but presumably includes extracting) except for doing varroa tests.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 03, 2022, 11:50:12 pm
Thanks for your answer DC and welcome to Beemaster!

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 04, 2022, 12:35:37 am
Yes that is correct. Extracting honey or comb is not permitted at the moment. I am guessing that the experts want minimal impact in relation to disturbing hives. The weather has been awful over the past week and bee movement (within individual hives) has been almost non existent. I am not overly confident at the moment but we need to give the people who are running the show a chance to do their job.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 03:52:39 am
I went to the chemist today to buy some alcohol for an :" alcohol wash"  . She told me that she can't sell me Alcohol - illegal as it can be used as an explosive.

I guess Metho will do the trick?

I notice in " Scientific beekeeping" that " DAWN ULTRA" works even better. see here: https://scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/

I have no idea if this detergent is available in Australia. Who makes it in the US? maybe the same company sells the same product under a different name.
Can anybody help?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 04, 2022, 04:32:04 am
Hi Max,

You should be able to use some of your 18 year old single malt. That should do a great job. Metho would also work.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 04, 2022, 06:39:08 am
Ha ha...brilliant Les!!

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 07:53:29 am
I've decided on the 18 year Single malt..

19 sites now...

Varroa mite emergency order extended to include Port Stephens

3 Jul 2022

The properties at Tanilba Bay, Salt Ash and another at Mayfield East are part of 16 premises now confirmed to have varroa mite infiltrating their hives.

?Further reporting by beekeepers and investigations by NSW DPI officers, has identified three varroa mite infestations at these properties,? Dr Anderson said.

?This means that the emergency order has been updated to include the Port Stephens Peninsula within the red 10km eradication zone, where hives will be euthanised.

?NSW DPI Biosecurity experts continue to act to protect the NSW Bee Industry in conjunction with the apiary industry, Local Land Services, NSW Police, Rural Fire Service and the wider community as part of the mammoth effort to arrest the spread of the threat.?

Mr Anderson said the NSW DPI continues to ask all people who have acquired honeybees (including queen bees, nucleus hives and hives with honeybees) from within the 50km emergency notification zone of the Port of Newcastle in the last 12-months to report them to help ensure business continuity for the honeybee industry.

?Community reporting will importantly help us facilitate and free up the movement of honeybees in the rest of NSW, especially around almond pollination,? Dr Anderson said.

?The varroa mite response plan has also been updated so that while it remains necessary to euthanise honeybee colonies in the eradication zones and destroy internal hive equipment such as brood and honey frames, other equipment will only be destroyed when a risk assessment deems it necessary, with options to decontaminate external equipment such as hive boxes, pallets and straps as well as metal ware, so they can be retained by beekeepers.

?Beekeepers are reminded of the group permit that allows flood-affected honeybees and hives in current flood watch areas to be moved to a higher location on premises, or if that?s not possible, within the same emergency zone.

?After the hives have been moved as per this Permit, they cannot be moved back to the original location. Notification of any change in location must be notified by the Beekeeper Notification ? Varroa mite online form at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa,? Dr Anderson said.

Further Information:

Throughout the remainder of NSW, no beehives or honeybees may be moved.

More information is available from NSW DPI: www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

Notification of any change in location must be notified by the Beekeeper Notification ? Varroa mite online form at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

Online form: Report honeybee acquisition

Current flood warnings that may impact on the emergency zones can be sourced at http://www.bom.gov.au/

If you are not in a flood watch affected area you must not move honeybees or hives; significant penalties may apply under the Biosecurity Act 2015 if you do.

Exotic Plant Pest Hotline on 1800 084 881 (9am to 5pm, 7 days a week).

Continue to check FAQs www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

Media contact: 02 6391 3686
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 09:59:07 am
Do the officials believe there is a realistic chance of eradicating the mite at this point?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 10:24:09 am
Max I have been told windshield cleaner works well. (As poured in resolvers under the bonnet,used to squirt on the front glass of car windshields). This is sold in one gallon jugs here in America and is inexpensive.

At this point, it might not be a bad idea if everyone in Australia would check their hives regularly?

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on July 04, 2022, 11:24:54 am
I went to the chemist today to buy some alcohol for an :" alcohol wash"  . She told me that she can't sell me Alcohol - illegal as it can be used as an explosive.
If you guys can't buy isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, what do you use to clean propolis off of your hive tools?  Because that's what I use, 70% isopropyl. 
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 04, 2022, 11:43:47 am
Do the officials believe there is a realistic chance of eradicating the mite at this point?
They wouldn?t be carrying out such drastic measures if they didn?t. I think they need to exhaust all options before admitting defeat.
Quote from: Ben Framed
At this point, it might not be a bad idea if everyone in Australia would check their hives regularly?
Everyone in NSW yes, I agree and would be surprised if they are not. However this may be difficult if as @D C Boon says tampering with hives is not permitted.
Anyway I wish them all the best over there.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 11:57:42 am
Thanks Skeggle, as I said in reply 22 and it still holds true. I am 'still' rooting for you... I am looking at the reality of the situation as it seems to be spreading at an 'alarming rate'; Therefore the honest question... As from the beginning, wishing you the very best and total success in this.

Phillip




Taken from reply 22:
"I will in no way try and dissuade efforts to control this pest by any method or means our friends see fit to try and deem necessary. At the end of the day they must be able to say "we did our best and we controlled the problem", or "we did our best even if the problem is not solved".

Whether a successful eradication of varroa or not; It may well be time for our friends Down Under to educate themselves about Varroa Destructor if they haven't already...
There is LOADS of GREAT information here at Beemaster for your convenience concerning 'every conceivable aspect' of Varroa; From research papers posted from all over the world concerning every aspect of varroa, including treatment methods along with the breakdown of treating tools. The Search engine at the top of the page, might be a best friend to our friends from DownUnder at this time, win, lose, or draw..."
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 12:10:59 pm
Quote from: Ben Framed
At this point, it might not be a bad idea if everyone in Australia would check their hives regularly?

Quoting Skeggley
"Everyone in NSW yes, I agree and would be surprised if they are not. However this may be difficult if as @D C Boon says tampering with hives is not permitted.
Anyway I wish them all the best over there."


I do too.. I am on the outside looking in. I am a simple hobby beekeeper in America, feeling pain for my beekeeping friends in Australia. I despise having to deal with varroa and do not want y'all to have to deal with it either.
My thinking was it might be a good idea to check hives Nationwide to get a clear picture and an accurate assessment of the actuality of the depth of the problem, giving a clear point of view as where to go from there.  Just my little input if effort of trying to help..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on July 04, 2022, 12:39:29 pm
Not sure if this would come in the brief of "tampering"....but with open mesh floors just stick a tray underneath and pull it out 24-48 hours later. Varroa are quite obvious, red and round like a horseshoe crab. The only thing they can really be mistaken for is braula, but that is more insect looking.
It's not a good way of assessing levels of infection, but gives a rough and ready indication.

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:48:23 pm
"If you guys can't buy isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, what do you use to clean propolis off of your hive tools?  Because that's what I use, 70% isopropyl. "

We generally use 18 year old Single Malt. :grin:
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:49:28 pm
Do the officials believe there is a realistic chance of eradicating the mite at this point?

Yes, they are still positive.
I understand that all the 19 cases are connected.
I try to stay positive
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:53:22 pm
Thanks Skeggle, as I said in reply 22 and it still holds true. I am 'still' rooting for you... I am looking at the reality of the situation as it seems to be spreading at an 'alarming rate'; Therefore the honest question... As from the beginning, wishing you the very best and total success in this.

Phillip

Phillip - I'm sure I'm not the only one her in Australia who has a laugh each time you in the US are " rooting" for us.
I'm lucky the police is not turning up and cnfiscating my computer!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:58:45 pm
I understand that " tampering" does NOT include doing an alcohol wash.
Also, as part of NSW is flodded ( again) beekeepers are allowed to move hives to higher ground on the same property.

The weather has turned quite nasty over the weekend ( it is Tuesday here now)

There is no way I could open a hive right now but I was able to do a check in one of my yards while the sun was shining.

I'm not in anaffected area ( not yet, anyway, and hoping for the best) but I have always done regular checks. I sell nuc's!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 07:02:52 pm
The report below does give a good indication of the situation regarding the weather.

On the map note " Newcastle" - this is the EPI center for Varroa at this point.

I'm North, off the map. It is raining here too. No floods this time...

https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/windsors-worst-flood-since-1978/671286
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 08:13:34 pm
"Phillip - I'm sure I'm not the only one her in Australia who has a laugh each time you in the US are " rooting" for us.
I'm lucky the police is not turning up and cnfiscating my computer!"



Max - When I look at the map last map posted by you in reply 48; www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa showing the sites of positive detection, I see the detection zones are as far away from one another as 200 plus miles. I see no humor here.

Phillip


Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 04, 2022, 09:47:07 pm
I think Phil, that it?s the differing definition of the term ?rooting? is where the laughing comes from.  :wink:

The inland zone screams commercial migratory beekeeper. Here in the West it will be the migratory beekeeper that brings SHB into the SW, and it?s been tried too I might add, the old cutting off the nose in spite of the face I?m afraid. For the varroa to migrate it will be due to the commercial migratory beekeepers actions.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 09:57:17 pm
Ah ok! lol I get it now!   :cheesy: Thanks Skeggly I am Rooting for you is a Southern Country saying here in my part of America meaning I am on your side and you have my support lol 
Hang in there friends, I am still (rooting for you)!
😂



Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on July 04, 2022, 11:21:57 pm
"If you guys can't buy isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, what do you use to clean propolis off of your hive tools?  Because that's what I use, 70% isopropyl. "

We generally use 18 year old Single Malt. :grin:
:cheesy:  I am genuinely curious.   
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 01:22:36 am
Thanks, Phil, for still r.....g for us. Glad you got the energy. Skeggley got it.

Varroa is indeed  far too serious for a laugh.

I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now.

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 01:50:36 am
Latest in
Narrabri - big jump.

I'm also concerned that they are talking about lifting some restrictions.

2000 hives - one mite...sounds like nothing but this is all it takes

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/AHBIC%20Varroa%20incursion%20update%206.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 05, 2022, 05:32:52 am
Thanks, Phil, for still r.....g for us. Glad you got the energy. Skeggley got it.

Varroa is indeed  far too serious for a laugh.

I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now.



Max now that you posted my word as  r.....g I think I finally, fully understand. In Australia that is seen as a vulgar expression? If so please accept My humble apology. I meant it as working for something good. Now Im really embraced.
:oops:
Yikes Now I understand why you said the police may come and take your computer! I apologize to each of you. I never meant anything out of the way, vulgar or offensive, but have been sincerely sympathetic in a moral and good way as described in Webster below. 

Phillip

Merriam Webster  American Dictionary
rooted for; rooting for; roots for
Definition of root for
: to express or show support for (a person, a team, etc.) : to hope for the success of (someone or something)
They always root for the home team.
Good luck on your upcoming show. Remember that we're all rooting for you.
rooting
: to encourage a team or contestant by cheering or applauding enthusiastically. to lend moral support: The whole group will be rooting for him.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 05, 2022, 06:04:18 am
Quote:
Max2
"I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now."


Max I did not think of that. Looking back, I had trouble finding number 8 here a few years ago. I finally found it in an old family owned hardware store. (No telling how many years the stuff had been sitting on the shelves).

Phillip


Worker bees can fit through #7 if there is a bent wire.  Workers can fit through #6 but it's a squeeze and they can't get pollen through it.  Workers can fit through #5 and it's a squeeze but they can get about half their pollen through it.  Workers and drones can fit through #4.  Some workers will lose pollen just because it caught and popped out, but the won't lose much.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 07:40:26 pm
Phillip wrote:
Max now that you posted my word as  r.....g I think I finally, fully understand. In Australia that is seen as a vulgar expression? If so please accept My humble apology. I meant it as working for something good. Now Im really embraced.
:oops:
Yikes Now I understand why you said the police may come and take your computer! I apologize to each of you. I never meant anything out of the way, vulgar or offensive, but have been sincerely sympathetic in a moral and good way as described in Webster below.

Phillip

No problem and no need to apologiese.
We all think we speak 'English" but it is a different "English"

We in Australia verymuch appreacite the support from our US ( and other) beekeeping friends .

Looks like the sun will shine  agin by tommorrow.
We had ther second lowest daytime temperature in recorded history here yesterday - around 13 C!

No bees to be seen
keep well

max
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 11:07:47 pm
Varroa - on imported queens?

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2022/07/06/australias-food-security-is-under-attack-from-varroa-mites-that-kill-bees-was-it-an-accident-or-was-it-from-illegal-importation-of-bees/
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 06, 2022, 12:44:30 am
277 000 hives needed for Almonds in a month -New rules

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-06/varroa-mite-outbreak-prompts-new-sunraysia-bee-restrictions/101212750
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 06, 2022, 11:03:07 am
Quote:
Max2
"I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now."


Max I did not think of that. Looking back, I had trouble finding number 8 here a few years ago. I finally found it in an old family owned hardware store. (No telling how many years the stuff had been sitting on the shelves).

Phillip


Worker bees can fit through #7 if there is a bent wire.  Workers can fit through #6 but it's a squeeze and they can't get pollen through it.  Workers can fit through #5 and it's a squeeze but they can get about half their pollen through it.  Workers and drones can fit through #4.  Some workers will lose pollen just because it caught and popped out, but the won't lose much.


Max another way to check for varroa is the sugar roll method. Though I personally have little confidence in the accuracy of this method for bee management, in your countries case of emergency, even if one mite were to drop the answer would be answered for a hive, as well as the area the hive is located in. I am not recommending this however, just food for thought. It is my opinion that the alcohol wash is the way to go in such critical times as yours..

Phillip


Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 06, 2022, 06:28:31 pm
Victoria - the state past NSW has now extra conditions:
The basis of tonight's email is to provide an update to our members who are seeking additional information on some of the requirements now in place for the migration of hives to the almond growing regions in Victoria.



The following information has been taken directly from the Agriculture Victoria website (DAF equivalent in Victoria).

Victorian Control Area
An Order declaring Victoria as a Control Area is now in place prohibiting the movement of bees, beehives, beekeeping equipment and bee products into and within Victoria.

Anyone seeking to move bees, hives, used beekeeping equipment and bee products, including pollen and honeycomb into Victoria, from New South Wales, or that which have been in NSW at any time after 1 January 2022 and have since moved to another State or Territory, must obtain a permit. Movement restrictions will also apply to any other State or Territory if Varroa mite is declared present.

This does not include processed honey and wax and new beekeeping tools and equipment which can be transported within Victoria and from interstate.

In addition, anyone seeking to move bees, beehives, beekeeping equipment and bee products into Victoria?s Sunraysia region, from within Victoria or from another state, must obtain a permit. This measure has been put in place ahead of Victoria?s almond pollination season. This applies to all Victorian and interstate beekeepers.

No permits will be granted for applications seeking movement from NSW while the standstill is in place, in line with NSW emergency orders. This also applies to Victorian beekeepers seeking re-entry to Victoria.

Applications from New South Wales will be assessed once the current standstill in NSW has lifted.

This Order has been made to prevent the exotic Varroa mite from coming into Victoria from NSW. Currently Victoria remains free from Varroa mite.

To learn more about the requirements and relevant permits to enter Victoria please visit:

https://agriculture.vic.gov.au/biosecurity/pest-insects-and-mites/priority-pest-insects-and-mites/varroa-mite-of-honey-bees/varroa-mite-current-situation

Please also note, given the current standstill (Movement Control Order) in NSW, movement from other states into NSW is strictly prohibited.

Information and updates on when the standstill in NSW may be lifted will be communicated to our members and contacts as a priority.

As a final update, similar to our efforts during the COVID-19 pandemic, a national task force has again been mobilised to manage the immediate challenges of industry to coordinate and control the movement of hives for pollination events across the country.

The QBA Management team have asked that I continue to represent the QBA and greater QLD  industry given my past involvement and expertise in the exercise to see bees delivered to pollination during the uncertainty of COVID. The QBA is supported in the meeting by Biosecurity Queensland and an expert from Transport and Main Roads who provided assistance during the COVID-19 border closures.

The task force includes representation at a high level from AHBIC, state bodies, and state agencies and a broker, all working together towards a common goal. The group has held 3 meetings over the past 12 days with much progress being made as a result of each meeting. We hope to be in a position in the near future to provide some clarity to Queensland based apiarists who provide pollination services to our dependent industry partners.

On behalf of the QBA Management team I would like to express our sincere appreciation for the continued support we've received through the significant volume of calls and emails.

Thank you for your support as we too increase commitment towards the national effort to contain and eradicate varroa.

Kind regards,





Jo Martin

QBA State Secretary
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 08, 2022, 04:28:26 am
Number of invested premises 34.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGnNrtDkDmLZWvllkRjVwqjfj
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 09, 2022, 08:09:39 am
Compensation for beekeepers:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-09/18m-packaged-for-varroa-mite-impacted-beekeepers/101224222
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 09, 2022, 09:05:27 pm
Thanks, Phil, for still r.....g for us. Glad you got the energy. Skeggley got it.

Varroa is indeed  far too serious for a laugh.

I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now.


Max this is an old Thread but maybe it will help..  Using the search bar provided at the top of the page look up: "Where do you get hardware cloth in Aust"

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 01:25:36 am
NSW bees to Vic?
I wonder what the full story is?

JUL 9, 2022 ?

In a shocking turn of events NSW commercials beekeepers will be able to get a permit to cross into Victoria Sunraysia district to pollinate Almonds.

Intense lobbying from the billion dollar Almond industry and commercial beekeepers represented by AHBIC who have been told they will not be compensated for missed pollination income they rely upon.


While they burn billions of bees in Newcastle and apply a poisoning program that will kill wild and indigenous bees it beggars belief they will allow the potential spread of the mite to Victoria.

After leaving the Almond?s potentially infected hives will be dispersed throughout NSW and Victoria.

I am sad thinking of those poor NSW beekeepers whose hives have been destroyed may will be all in vain.

Thinking of all the volunteer workers, beekeepers and DPI staff that are trying to contain the infestation only to have a doggy permit system hurt the potential of Australia remaining Varroa free.

We need to stop all hive movement in NSW until Varroa is contained and I am attempting to get a federal court injunction to make certain no hives are moved into Victoria from NSW until we are certain Varroa Mite is contained and at least until 1 January 2023.

Please help me raise funds to protect Australian bees and the Australia?s food industry and Australia?s food security and 460000 beekeepers against varroa mite. I want instruct lawyer Michael Morehead to commence proceedings to put an injunction on the movement of hives in NSW until we know that varroa mite has been contained or irradiated.

 

Any extra funds raised will be dispersed amongst beekeepers in the Newcastle region that have lost their apiaries and may be waiting a long time for compensation.

Please Donate

https://gofund.me/9d4bb7d6
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 10, 2022, 06:34:43 am
NSW bees to Vic?

Max..I cant find any information on this. Can you please provide a link or let us know where the article is? That's shocking news! Surely this cannot happen.

On a positive note, I did see that State and Federal governments are reimbursing both hobby and commercial beeks for their losses putting 18 Million up for compensation.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 07:54:11 am
This came from Simon Mulvany:
JUL 9, 2022 ?

In a shocking turn of events NSW commercials beekeepers will be able to get a permit to cross into Victoria Sunraysia district to pollinate Almonds.

I don't kniow anything more.

Yes, good to see small beekeepers also getting  some payment

I had a look for # 8 mesh - no luck so far.
I'm thinking about bringing in some of the shakers.

I also noticed that the " Alcohol wash" is now the " Ethanol Wash" which would be the " Metho Wash" here in OZ!

Take it out of the fridge, mate!

I post somethinbg more positive on another post...

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 10, 2022, 08:21:49 am
Max, our friend Oldbeavo is from Nth Victoria and is a pollinator. Is their enough beekeepers such as Oldbeavo as well as beekeepers from other parts of Australia to cover the emergency needs for pollination of Almonds this one season, without hives being brought from NSW?  If small hobby beekeepers chimed in with a few hives each, volunteering the service of those hives for the effort of the cause, could there be enough to find a way around this, this one season? No doubt, in appreciation, the Almond Industry would reward the owners of these volunteered hives generously... I realize their is a no move ordinance for your country, but wouldn't this be a better alternative than what is being planned?

(Kind of like the candle burning effect of one candle multiplied by One Hundred Thousand, each together making a bright light, as described just yesterday: by Former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee; Dad of Sara Sanders Huckabee, former Press Secretary for Donald Trump for 3 1/2 years, on the topic). "Mike Huckabee Opens With Reflections of Expo 72"

Phillip

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 06:37:54 pm
Hi Phillip,

A lot of hives would generally be taken from Queensland to the Almonds.
It is a long way and they have to travel via NSW.

The reason hives are taken for pollination from the North  is simple - it is much warmer here and we can build up hives.

Vitoria is much colder and I would assume it would be very difficult to get hives ready.

The other issue is numbers - very much like in the US were such a high number of hives are required for Almonds.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 10, 2022, 06:40:34 pm
Looks like we can now inspect hives, extract honey etc (with some restrictions in place) With swarming season only a couple of months away, the timeline for potentially eradicating this outbreak is quite short. It would be an amazing effort if authorities can eliminate this pest but my heart and head are seeing this situation differently.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 06:48:32 pm
LESGOLD - I'm in Qld - no restrictions here.

Are you in NSW?

max
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 10, 2022, 06:57:19 pm
Yes Max. I?m on the South Coast at Batemans Bay.  I?m only about 400km from the outbreaks.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 08:12:05 pm
A worry.
I spend a lot of time researching Varroa - always did have an interest and have been breeding Hygenic Queens for years. I also have 20 queens on order - from a NSW breeder to keep my genetics in good order. Not sure if I will be able to bring them up - probably best not to.Which means I will be spending more time breeding queens

As far as I know I have two other hives within close range but this does not make it safe.

My brother in law lives near Nowra.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 10, 2022, 09:52:20 pm
https://scientificbeekeeping.com/the-varroa-incursion-in-australia-4-july-2022/
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 11, 2022, 04:33:11 am
" I made the point that if they were not willing to take strong actions ? including using fipronil bait stations to kill feral colonies ? that their chances of eradication would be zero.
Although I have only had indirect communication with the DPI during this incursion, I am encouraged that they are indeed preparing to perform such baiting.
The commercial beekeepers in the country are well aware that the possibility of complete eradication are slim, but it?s clear that the agency, based upon lack of detections outside the containment zone, feels that they still have a fighting chance."

I have read someweher that they are using fibronil baits.

Can't find it.

I do hope that we have a " figthing chance"
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 12, 2022, 08:25:36 am
No new dedections today!!

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwhzgRXwvzLgMsMwwfWRngrQ
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 12, 2022, 08:47:44 pm
That?s encouraging Max. Can?t read your link but that?s OK.  This outbreak has made me rethink and evaluate what I?m doing and why. At this point in time I?m thinking of selling most of my hives in the spring and down sizing to about 6 hives. The idea of an increasing work load and potentially having to use chemical treatments to control a pest saddens me. I will rely on this forum for advice and methods over the next year or so if this problem takes hold.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 13, 2022, 04:34:30 am
Hi Les,
I'm going to wait a while before I make any decisions. Early days but I have heard other beekeepers mentioning retirement
I have a few mates here who keep bees  and we should be able to help each other.

I'm making frames and boxes at the moment - quite a few 1/2 boxes as I'm not able to lift 10frame , FD supers full of honey. Maybe the way to go - 1/2 supers.
Also thinking about making some foundation but not sure where to buy the moulds.
Interseting You Tube here with lots of Vies.
You may like it :grin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjq-ilNd39M
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 13, 2022, 07:41:31 am
Ha ha. That was my very first YouTube clip. I made a lot of foundation using that technique. Saved me a fair bit of money early on.  I?ll make my decisions early in the spring after the swarming period. Should know by then as to what?s happening.


Cheers

Les
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 13, 2022, 06:40:10 pm
For QLD.

The following information I just received from my beekeeping club:

Survey 123. A new app just released for reporting varroa incursions as well as negative test results directly to Biosecurity QLD. The survey to report within the app is Bee 123.
You must download Microsoft Teams software first deforest down loading the app survey 123.
The app allows hive data collection from all registered beekeepers across QLD, early detection and tracing...like having thousands of trap hives across the entire state.

I see this as a very cost effective and positive move towards controlling this incursion and others moving forward. Hopefully having an app to report any findings encourages testing too. I would like to see all states take this up.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 13, 2022, 07:09:21 pm
Yes, I got the message too and a easier follow up.
The problem is that so many Australian Beekeepers don't use e-mail or other communication technology - I don't own a mobile, simply as we have no reception here.

The avearage age of beekeepers here is above 60 - not the group which is glued to phones.
Also, I can't buy # 8 screen material so far...or the cups for a sugar shake or Alcohol wash.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 13, 2022, 10:31:55 pm
> Also, I can't buy # 8 screen material so far...or the cups for a sugar shake or Alcohol wash.

Max as I reported earlier I had a hard time finding #8 locally here in America when I was seeking it. I do not know if the following suggestion will work but I see no reasons why it won?t. Here in America 1/4 inch Hardware Cloth is readily available in most hardware stores included major box chains such as The Home Depot and Lowes. Do you have access to 1/4 inch?

If so, what  if we were to use two layers of 1/4 inch  ?lapped together in a cross pattern or hatch pattern? This should allow the mites to pass through to the desired inspection side of our tester, while restraining donor bees in the wash side from passing through, realizing our desired motive?

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 14, 2022, 12:29:36 am
Hi Guys.

A few years ago I made a couple of top bar hives. I had the same problem in finding a small gauge mesh. In the end I found this stuff :



It?s actually a brand of gutter guard that I found at a local hardware store. It?s made from aluminium and comes in at about 7 segments to the inch. As you can see, the spaces are not square and the thickness of each aluminium section is slightly thicker than what you would see on hardware cloth. The main point is that bees did not get through it. It can be purchased in rolls up to about 250mm wide. Max, if you want a piece, PM me with your address and I?ll post a piece to you.

Cheers

Les
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 14, 2022, 01:14:13 am
Thanks, Les and Phillip,
I'm going to town ( a much bigger town then our village!) and will check these out first.

Good idea about the gutter guard. I may have some hiding in the shed

I will also check if I can find a copy of " Honey Flora of Qld" in the second hand bookshop - supposed to be the biggest one in Qld
max
( Les, please check your PM)
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 14, 2022, 02:19:19 am
Live Webinar - Tonight ( Australian time)

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwlRQhHZhkNkcdhlwQRBMwxH
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 14, 2022, 07:52:30 am
Les, you have the answer! 

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 14, 2022, 08:31:09 am
https://www.gofundme.com/f/stop-varroa-mite-spreading-in-australia?member=20521647&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30745158?cs_tk=AjbadPi-S_mJIReV2GIAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvNPz_aW0k7XeYjzYoRFC36o%3D&utm_campaign=84ac58c32d634250855ccb7179f8f2b5&utm_content=initial_v0_6_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 14, 2022, 09:09:52 am

https://www.gofundme.com/f/stop-varroa-mite-spreading-in-australia?member=20521647&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30745158?cs_tk=AjbadPi-S_mJIReV2GIAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvNPz_aW0k7XeYjzYoRFC36o%3D&utm_campaign=84ac58c32d634250855ccb7179f8f2b5&utm_content=initial_v0_6_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs

Very compelling articles Skeggley. Thanks for posting.  It seems the battle with Varroa Destructor is not the only battle being fought; But the legal battle of what to do, or what not to do next as well.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 14, 2022, 10:42:52 am
This is beyond belief. If you have enough money you can do anything you want. The whole country is worried about these mites spreading, burning hives in large numbers and then they allow bees from an infected area mix with 2/3s of the country?s bees. On top of that, we already know from experience here that every disease that goes to our almonds gets spread all across the US.
Insanity.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 15, 2022, 01:38:26 am
Yeah watching from the other side of the country it does make me scratch my head, typical short term thinking. Here on the West Coast raw honey and used equipment has been banned for years, 2 roads in has its benefits.
Due to the floods over East veggie prices have shot through the roof with lettuce heads selling for such a high price cabbage is being mixed in, even substituted. No such problem here in the West however our fast foods chains are under instructions from their management to do the same even though lettuce is cheaper than cabbage in the supermarket
 :cheesy: Sigh, it'd be sad if it wasn't so ridiculous.
There's now foot and mouth disease in one of most popular holiday destination, Indonesia's Bali, and the advice is to leave your thongs there. :cheesy: (That's flip flop footwear btw.) Once again, sigh.
Oh my was that a rant? Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 15, 2022, 01:51:09 am
"Oh my was that a rant? Sorry about that."



We understand Skaggley. No sorry necessary. We all have to let the steam off every now and then, let it blow even as Old Faithful!!!  :cheesy:

Phillip




      "Old Faithful"





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 15, 2022, 07:38:39 am
Qld Beekeepers allowed to Almonds

This has just come in: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwmbclpRwdmRCNhpFMdwxqjz
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 16, 2022, 03:27:16 am
Some NSW Beekeepersallowed to move hives.

This looks high risk and premature to me

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-16/nsw-beekeepers-be-able-to-move-their-hives-varroa-mite/101244458
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 18, 2022, 04:11:42 am
The number of sites are increasing but they have not spread far past the original site ( with the one, related site)

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwptvQJQRBSVTJVdkBwFNpMS

What worried me is that soon beekeepers will start to move hives for pollination...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 18, 2022, 06:44:26 am
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 18, 2022, 06:46:29 am
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller

Yes Jim I am getting the same results.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on July 18, 2022, 07:21:13 am
Me too.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 18, 2022, 07:41:52 am
Just to keep everyone in the loop.

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30751440

Spoke too soon?

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30755678

:Eye roll:
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Garigal on July 18, 2022, 09:42:46 am
The NSW DPI site is the best way to keep track of what's happening:

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/emergencies/biosecurity/current-situation/varroa-mite-emergency-response

Last update was Sunday evening 17/7.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 18, 2022, 03:07:04 pm
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller

Sorry about this.
I have no idea why the links don't work..
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 18, 2022, 09:11:20 pm
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller

Sorry about this.
I have no idea why the links don't work..

I sent a PM to you Max.

Thanks,
Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 20, 2022, 01:51:16 am
" No new dedections for a few days" - this is positive.

Also:


- Applications will open tomorrow for registered commercial beekeepers to request to move hives within the low risk general biosecurity zones in NSW.

- You can start alcohol washes now, for more information view the DPI website at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa.

- 🐝 There have been no new infected premises for a couple of days. Number of infested premises remains at 40.


- 🐝Activity in eradication zones
Our effort and people are currently working on surveillance activities around the edges of red eradication zones, to help us define the outer limits of where Varroa mite is.
This information then feeds in to our response activities, where our aim remains to eradicate Varroa mite.
We'll update beekeepers and the community on our response activities ongoing.



Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 20, 2022, 05:28:23 am
"Ag minister is confident Varroa can be eliminated"..

New South Wales Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders is confident that authorities can eliminate the varroa mite from the state, despite relaxing a lockdown on the movement of beehives in low-risk areas.

Key points:


- Nearly 2,000 beehives have been destroyed by state authorities since the detection of Varroa destructor
New South Wales Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders says the elimination strategy is ongoing. Currently, hives outside of varroa mite biosecurity zones can be moved with a permit

- Varroa destructor was first detected in surveillance hives in the port of Newcastle late last month and has now been found at  40 properties across New South Wales, including near Narrabri, 400 kilometres from the original site.

- The mite weakens and kills European honey bee colonies, which are vital to the honey and farming industries.

- Speaking to ABC's 7.30, Mr Saunders said the government was embarking on an elimination strategy.
  "We believe we can eradicate the mite and, if we can do that then that's a big tick," he said. "Ongoing, that's going to continue                              to be the plan, but you never say never."

- Varroa destructor has never taken hold in Australia until now, but was intercepted at a Victorian port in 2018.

- A different type of mite, Varroa jacobsoni, was found in Townsville three separate times previously but was eradicated each time.





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on July 20, 2022, 10:08:11 am
>we already know from experience here that every disease that goes to our almonds gets spread all across the US.

Like in a matter of days as opposed to years.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 20, 2022, 11:12:42 am

- Nearly 2,000 beehives have been destroyed by state authorities since the detection of Varroa destructor
New South Wales Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders says the elimination strategy is ongoing. Currently, hives outside of varroa mite biosecurity zones can be moved with a permit


Any news to report concerning the success, or 'percentage' of success, in the efforts of eradicating feral hives in the infected areas? I still believe the pendulum of 'success or failure' may hinge or swing, by the results of 'this' critical 'factor' in this exasperating, yet noble endeavor.

Phillip





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 20, 2022, 05:14:04 pm
"If they find mites in the hives at the almond farms"

Good point Jim. Lets hope they don't find any varroa in the Almonds. If they do not, such a report will be a wonderful sign! The well informed officials making these decisions must be loosing a lot of seep, while sweating bullets, trying to weight and juggle the facts of the situation while seeking an outcome that will turn out positive for the good of all. What a stressful time of tribulation for these folks... 

Our friend OldBeaveo and Karen may be in the Almonds. The good news is he is not located in NSW if I remember correctly. I feel for him and the other good pollinators who are probably sitting on pins and needles at this point, not knowing what the fate and future will be concerning Varroa Destructor. That goes for all of Australias" Beekeepers. They need our prayers and moral support..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 20, 2022, 05:23:01 pm
Thanks Phillip.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 20, 2022, 05:29:15 pm
Your Welcome Bee North.  👍🏻

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Garigal on July 20, 2022, 10:22:55 pm
Here's a fairly unbiased and factual account of the situation from last nights edition of 7:30 on our ABC (national broadcaster).

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/the-race-to-save-australia%E2%80%99s-bee-industry/13981824?jwsource=cl
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 22, 2022, 07:09:11 am
On the outside looking in, I see at least a couple of things 'that concern me' in this report.

At 3:23 Anna Scoaby shows her remaining hives as she explains that at least 30 of her infested hives have been destroyed. My concern here is still one of my original concerns mentioned in my Reply #30 July 01, 2022,

"If all domesticated managed hives are completely destroyed in the kill zones, what will become of the bees which may have missed the eradication process while out forging, which may host live varroa? Will they beg into unknown feral hives? The same question for eradicated hives on the outer limits of the kill zone. What will become of the forging bees which no longer have a home? Can they simply find their way to a hive 'outside' of the eradication zone, or an unknown feral hive 'outside or inside' the kill zone? Will they beg into a nearby hive, bringing with them the varroa they may have in their possession, (on their person)?"

Also Darren Minter, an almond producer, says at 4:23 "If it does get out; If this varroa mite enters into the whole bee industry, it will take out 80 to 90 percent of our bees." Though his great concern is rightfully expressed, though education his words do not have to be written in stone or come to pass if Australians will educate themselves 'individually' and act on that education. With education this does not have to be the case. TheHoneyPump from my Countrys' neighboring Canada and a member here, has written a great paper explaining much about this mite. I highly recommend investigating Mr HoneyPumps paper, along with many other topics which some of which include 'sources of research' concerning Varroa Destructor by a variety of Beemasters' Members .

Its true we beekeepers in America lost great numbers of our bees when varroa was introduced to my Country and the future looked gloomy; 'until we became educated' about this dreaded pest. High numbers of hives were lost for the same accurate reasons of Mr Minters' rightful concerns such as spreading of viruses etc.

Learning how to deal with these mites from shared lessons learned from other countries, along with research from other countries, (countries already experiencing Varroa before its arrival in America), 'was a tremendous leg up for us here in America'. This valuable information along with conducting our own research turned things around. Therefore with education Mr Minters' forecast does not have to come to pass. Again quoting Mr Minter; "If varroa is not contained".

I wish to encourage our beekeeping friends DownUnder.  The results do not have to be as Mr Minter fears... Again education and putting that education into effect by each individual beekeeper is the key to success in my opinion. Lets continue hoping the toothpaste is not out of the tube. And the effort and hard work to stop varroa in Australia will bare fruit of success!

Phillip





 
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 22, 2022, 07:30:00 am
Notice the expansion of infestation in the map below, which was shown in the news clip provided by Garigal July 20 (reply 121) as compared to the map shown on July 4 in Reply 61.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 22, 2022, 07:31:23 am
Infestation map July 4

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Garigal on July 22, 2022, 07:50:42 am
Notice the expansion of infestation in the map below, which was shown in the news clip provided by Garigal July 20 (reply 121) as compared to the map shown on July 4 in Reply 61.



Yes the map expanded rapidly but has been relatively stable for a week or so, there was a flurry of testing activity followed by cooler and quite wet weather again with a possibility of another four months of La Nina.

Euthanising of hives was suspended while they established the edges of the incursion and today's update was that they are shifting back to the eradication program, they released the info on Facebook and haven't been consistent on where they release informantion unfortunately.

Today's update

🐝 There has been an additional detection within the current Eradication Zone (red zone).

🐝 The Biosecurity Emergency Group Permit and Hive Movement Declaration form is in place to allow the movement of bees in the General Biosecurity Zone (blue zone) for critical pollination services for registered commercial beekeepers. See www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

🐝Activity in eradication zones
We have conducted extensive surveillance at the edges of the emergency zones to establish the limits of the current infestation and will now reprioritise our efforts within the red zones to continue the euthanasia of infected hives.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on July 22, 2022, 12:48:28 pm
I wish Australia the best of luck.  But eradication has been tried everywhere Varroa showed up and it has never worked.  It only takes one Varroa to spread eventually to everywhere.  They don't even need two...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 22, 2022, 08:41:29 pm
Michael wrote: " eradication has been tried everywhere Varroa showed up and it has never worked"

Has anybody writen up what beekeeprs did in the US or Canada when Varroa arrived? Can we do better?

I sense a will here in Australia to learn and not to repeat mistakes which were made, even Governments are spending good money to stop the invasion.

We are also dealing with Foot and Mouth, Lumpy Skin..in our neighbour countries ( not on bees..)

Biosecurity has been busy.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 24, 2022, 06:30:23 pm
No reported outbreaks outside the red zones in the past week. The focus will now return to those areas. Interesting few weeks coming up. The outbreak areas on the coast have a temperate climate. With spring and swarming season only a month away, the timeframe for eradication is reducing rapidly.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 02:19:11 am
Almond Growers face Beehive shortage

Up to 16,000 registered Victorian beehives that were stranded in southern New South Wales due to the varroa mite outbreak can now be returned home.
Key points:


    North-west Victoria's almond industry relies on beehives from multiple states to help with pollination
    Some Victorian hives currently in southern NSW will now be allowed to return home
    The industry says it will still be short 65,000 hives this season

- Agriculture Victoria announced the change late on Friday, enabling more beehives to re-enter the state to help with almond pollination.

- Almond trees in north-west Victoria are about to bloom, and usually hives from across Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland are used for pollination.

- Victoria's Chief Plant Health Officer, Rosa Crnov, said beekeepers needed to apply for a permit and test their hives before and after moving them to ensure they were free of the destructive pest.

- Dr Crnov said the honey bees were low risk because they had been quiet over winter, not gathering honey and not pollinating.

"We also have a level of comfort with them in the fact that they're registered with Agriculture Victoria so we have ready access to all the records and testing regime on file," she said.

Last month, a bee parasite called varroa destructor was found in sentinel hives at the Port of Newcastle.
New South Wales authorities have been working to eradicate the mite, which has since been found at 41 premises.




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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 25, 2022, 07:20:12 am
Infestation Map Update:  July 24, 2022



Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 07:40:28 am
Some 200 hives have been moved to Almonds

New research gives some hope - for the future

It has been just over a month now since varroa mite was detected in sentinel hives at the Port of Newcastle, with millions of bees in emergency zones since euthanased.
Key points:

    Hive movement is now underway in and through NSW's blue zone
    Surveillance and euthanasia of infected hives in the red zones have ramped up
    Researchers hope to develop a varroa mite pesticide safe for honey bees

While authorities in New South Wales remain confident the deadly parasite can be eradicated, beekeepers could soon have a new tool to help in their fight against future outbreaks.

Australian researchers are hoping to develop a world-first hormone-based pesticide, safe for honey bees but fatal to varroa mite, and another destructive pest, the small hive beetle.

The University of Sydney research project has been underway for a year, but it could be two to three years before it is ready for commercialisation.
A man with blonde hair smiling.
Joel Mackay is leading a $1.2 million research project into developing a varroa mite pesticide.(Supplied: Joel Mackay)

Project lead Joel Mackay says indications are the fight against the current incursions will be successful as with previous detections in Australian ports over the past decade.

"Hopefully the same will happen now and we buy ourselves some more time through which we can develop technologies like the one that we're working on," he said.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 25, 2022, 07:46:59 am
Max2
"Australian researchers are hoping to develop a world-first hormone-based pesticide, safe for honey bees but fatal to varroa mite, and another destructive pest, the small hive beetle."



Max this report is also very interesting. Please keep us updated as this research moves along.

Thanks,

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 08:07:21 am
This has just come in - the new site is connected to previous ones. They seem to do a good tracing job.

Dear max,

Please find below today's update published from NSW DPI Biosecurity just moments ago. This information was taken directly from the NSW DPI Biosecurity Facebook page (25/07/2022 at 9.00pm)



NSW DPI Varroa mite tracing and surveillance work has confirmed one new detection of Varroa mite, as field officers continue hive inspections with beekeepers across the state.

The new detection is near Nana Glen, north-west of Coffs Harbour and brings the total number of infested premises to 43.

The new infested hives where the Varroa mite was detected falls outside of existing emergency zones. NSW DPI has established emergency zones around the infested premises.

Our tracing efforts discovered this infested premises near Nana Glen, where infested hives were moved in earlier this year, prior to our Biosecurity Emergency Order was in place. This is connected to one of our existing infested premises in the Hunter cluster.

As an industry group, our intensive surveillance and tracing activities, in addition to the state-wide lockdown and creation of emergency zones, continue to play a critical role in emergency response efforts.

Visit www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa and use the interactive map to search for your address, to determine what emergency zone you?re situated in.

 What should I do? 

- All beekeepers responsible for honeybee colonies or hives within 50km biosecurity zones are either in the Notification zone, Eradication or Surveillance zones.

-In those zones, beekeepers must tell NSW DPI where their honeybees and hives are. This includes queen honeybees in cages and packaged honeybees.

You can notify NSW DPI:

- to the Exotic Plant Pest Hotline 1800 084 881

- by using the online form at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

If anyone in NSW has found Varroa mite, they must tell NSW DPI immediately.

Kind regards,

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 08:34:16 pm
Nana Glen - this is very bad.

15 beekeeprs affected - lots of hives.

Beekeepers on the NSW Mid North Coast are the latest to prepare to destroy their hives after the detection of varroa mite in hives at a blueberry farm.
Key points:

    NSW Apiarists Association president Steve Fuller says the outbreak will affect 15 beekeepers in the area
    There are concerns about the impact on the agriculture industry in the area
     About 5,000 hives are needed to pollinate blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, avocadoes and macadamias in the region until the end of September

The deadly bee parasite has been detected in Nana Glen, 25 kilometres inland from Coffs Harbour, where a 10-km eradication zone has been established.

It was the 43rd detection since an initial case in the Port of Newcastle last month.

"I'm shocked. I'm devastated," beekeeper Alan Elks said.

Mr Elks' family has been keeping bees in the area for several generations, and their hives are just a few kilometres from the detection site, putting them within the eradication zone.

Mr Elks said he had to find out about the detection on his doorstep from a fellow beekeeper.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 10:11:54 pm
Max2
"Australian researchers are hoping to develop a world-first hormone-based pesticide, safe for honey bees but fatal to varroa mite, and another destructive pest, the small hive beetle."



Max this report is also very interesting. Please keep us updated as this research moves along.

Thanks,

Phillip

Hi Philip,
I have written tot the researcher and hope that I will be up-dated  on the progress of the work.

I have just come in from a check on some of my hives ( it is about 24C here) and the SHB are still active.
Our winters are so mild now that we don't seem to ever get a brood break and a rest from SHB

max





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 26, 2022, 02:38:52 am
Quote
Hi Philip,
I have written tot the researcher and hope that I will be up-dated  on the progress of the work.

I have just come in from a check on some of my hives ( it is about 24C here) and the SHB are still active.
Our winters are so mild now that we don't seem to ever get a brood break and a rest from SHB

max

Thanks Max for doing your part 'and much more' with steadfast dedication such as informing beekeepers 'as in this topic', while seeking better beekeeping for all by bridging key important people with information you carry. Hopefully in time you and folks like you, who work so diligently will see your work bare much good fruit, boosting beekeeping to a higher an more enjoyed adventure for all.
 
I have hope that your countries' research on these matters (controlling Varroa and Small Hive Beetles) will turn out to be 'good for all',  and a chance for beekeepers like myself, who missed the Golden Age of beekeeping will 'realistically' have the chance to experience beekeeping as when beekeeping was Varroa and SHB free! I can only imagine 🙂

Phillip





 
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 27, 2022, 01:25:02 am
I hope this link works:
Just in from ABC News  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwiohx0ZECU
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 27, 2022, 02:27:35 am
Hives can leave Queensland for Victoria...but not certain that they can come back.

27 July 2022
Dear Members
I am writing to address the concerns of members over the movement of bees outside the state of
Queensland. We understand there is a great deal of anxiety within our membership in relation to the
movement of bees and for this reason I have prepared this letter to you.
Firstly, the Queensland Beekeepers? Association (QBA) do not make the decisions with relation to bees
crossing borders (re-entering Queensland). Whilst we advocate in the best interest of all Queensland
Beekeepers, ultimately the decisions relating to the movement of hives is at the discretion of the
Queensland and Victorian State governments.
The association has expressed the range of views and concerns of our members and wider industry to
government. The QBA management committee has and will continue to advocate for strong border
measures, enhanced surveillance, and strict enforcement.
We strongly recommend all QBA members considering migration of honey bees outside the state of
Queensland should conduct their own individual risk assessment, understanding that should they choose to
migrate hives outside of Queensland, they do so at their own risk.
The Queensland Government have communicated that there are no guarantees that honey bees will be able
to re-enter the state. We recognise there are stranded hives in New South Wales owned and operated by
Queensland based beekeepers and we are continuing to work with the Queensland Government to provide
continuity of business operations for the those impacted beekeepers.

The QBA will continue to work with government and advocate in the interest of all Queensland beekeepers.
The QBA will always put the interests of Queensland beekeepers first.
Sincerely,
Jacob Stevens
President
Queensland Beekeepers? Association.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 30, 2022, 01:02:56 am
Infestation map July 29


Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 01, 2022, 01:10:59 am
I have not seen any updates on the spread or otherwise of varroa. I take it that no news is good news.

This has just come in:

Growers to source local bees for pollination services 
Queensland growers who engage beekeepers for pollination services should make arrangements for a local supply now ahead of the growing season.

The threat of varroa mite makes it even more critical to source local bees.

Under current restrictions, bees and hives from New South Wales cannot be brought into Queensland.

Anybody who usually sources bees from interstate for pollination is encouraged to engage with local Queensland based beekeepers for these services.

It?s a critical time for the beekeeping industry and we urge growers to consider how they could support beekeepers to maintain bee biosecurity responsibilities.

If you require hives from multiple beekeepers, ensure you are consulting with the beekeepers on hive placement and encourage beekeepers to undertake mite surveillance checks and report their findings to the Bee 123 online form, prior to the arrival of hives on farm.

Growers that generally source bees from interstate should contact their grower industry body in the first instance if they need to source bees for pollination. 

The Queensland Beekeepers? Association supports growers and can connect them with local beekeepers.

More information
Read more about varroa mite.

Visit the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries engagement hub?help protect our bees by reading the latest FAQs or ask us a question.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 01, 2022, 04:09:17 am
The latest up date :

Incursion update 31/07/22
Reporting of this incursion has been focused on mite detections and the red dots on maps.
The work that has been conducted by the 30 odd field teams of beekeeper volunteers,
DPI, RFS and LLS staff across the red, purple, yellow and blue zones is often not
highlighted.
To date there has been over 18,000 hives surveyed for mites across all the zones with a
combination of alcohol washes and strips/mats. Despite 18,000 hives being tested only 56
infested premises have been detected with only 3 of these infested premises being outside
the Newcastle red zones.
Over the past couple of weeks, the focus has been on surveillance in the perimeter of the
Newcastle zone to ensure the incursion has been delimited and a solid edge could be
found. This surveillance has only identified a few new IP?s in the Newcastle area. This
provides the Incident Management Team (IMT) with a renewed confidence that the
incursion is contained.
Tracing efforts have been successful in following hives that have moved out of the zones
over the last few months. Thousands of hives, identified through tracing across the blue
zone have been tested and resulted in 3 detections outside of the Newcastle zone
Trangie, Narrabri and Coffs Harbor. All of these detections have all been low mite
numbers and traced to direct, recent movements out of the Newcastle zone. Surveillance
around these detections have not detected any transfer of mites to other managed hives
or feral colonies. Further, intense surveillance, including mats and strips in these remote
zones will give the IMT greater confidence with the goal of declaring these areas free from
mites and remove the zones in time.
The associated intensive surveillance with the movement of hives to pollination will give
us, as an industry, a good indication that the incursion is contained or not. All beekeepers
that are moving hives have signed a legal declaration to say their hives have only been in
the lower risk, general emergency zone. If no mites are found then the IMT will be given a
high level of confidence it is contained, and eradication is achievable.
Eradication is the focus of the IMT until the National Management Group decide it is not
technically feasible to eradicate
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 01, 2022, 08:32:47 am
Max, I appreciate the attention to detail you placed in your update. Very encouraging report.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 01, 2022, 06:56:27 pm
Thanks Philip...BUT....I'm simply repeating press realease  as a " cut and paste". All cudos to the public servants
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 03, 2022, 08:15:16 am
I found this Max just now. 

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 03, 2022, 08:23:46 am
Updated infestation map...

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 05, 2022, 01:24:16 am
NSW     Department of
                 Primary Industries


Thursday 4 August                                                                                                                                                          .
Varroa Mite response Daily Update.

Tracing and surveillance have confirmed 9 new Infected Premises bringing the total to 73. Seven of the new IP's have been detected in the Port Stephens LGA at Raymond Terrace, Ferodale and Heatherbrae and the remaining two have been identified in Tarro and Mayfield east in the Newcastle LGA. All of these cases 'either have' clear links to existing cases or are geographically related through the movement of hives or equipment.

We have refocused our efforts on tracing and euthanising hives within the eradication zone, which has led to the increased number of Infected Premises.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 08, 2022, 01:59:00 am
NSW     Department of
                 Primary Industries


Sunday 7, August

Latest updates
For previous updates, visit the archive page.
Sunday 7 August
Varroa mite response - Daily Update

Two new cases of Varroa mite have been detected at Seaham and Anna Bay. This brings the total number of Infected Premises to 79. These cases are located 'within existing eradication zones' and are geographically related.

Beekeepers in the surveillance zones should continue monitoring their hives for the presence of Varroa mite. You can keep up to date with the latest information on the NSW DPI Biosecurity Facebook page www.facebook.com/NSWDPI.Biosec
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 09, 2022, 04:08:09 am
83 sites :sad:
Varroa mite response - Daily Update 8/8/22
Ongoing Varroa mite tracing and surveillance has identified 4 additional infected premises (IPs), bringing the total number in NSW to 83. These IPs have been detected inside the eradication zone in the localities of Hinton, Brandy Hill, Macquarie Hills and Black Hill.
Beekeepers in the surveillance zones should continue monitoring their hives for the presence of Varroa mite.
The Emergency Zone map can be found here: https://fal.cn/3qQJz
You can keep up to date with the latest information on the NSW DPI Biosecurity Facebook page https://fal.cn/3qQJy
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 11, 2022, 05:05:10 am
Just in...
Dear max,

Earlier this week a new movement control order came into effect. As the situation stands, bees, used equipment or bee products (including unprocessed honey) cannot be moved into Queensland from any state or territory without a permit.



We must reiterate that processed honey and processed beeswax can be moved if:

honey has been extracted, filtered, strained or settled to remove wax cappings and dead bees
it has been packed in a facility without bees
the outside of the container, and any frames, pallets and packaging are free from honey or beeswax
it is a quarantine secured diagnostic honey sample for testing at a recognised diagnostic facility.
DAF have confirmed that all registered beekeepers have been emailed information relating to the new movement control order as at the close of business today. If for some reason you are not receiving RBE (Registered Biosecurity Entity) emails, please contact DAF on 13 25 23 to confirm your contact information as a matter of priority.

To read the new movement control order, please click on the attachment below.

movement-and-control-order-notice.pdf.pdf
We anticipate we will have a better understanding of the Queensland Government's risk assessment process and the plans and provisions for the permit system in the coming days. As soon as the permit provisions have been finalised we will communicate the updates on permits as a matter of high priority to our members.

The QBA continues to engage consultatively with the Department of Agriculture and Biosecurity Queensland to advocate in the best interests of our members and greater industry, protecting the future of beekeeping in Queensland.

Kind regards,





Jo Martin
Title: Varroa in Australia
Post by: Oldbeavo on August 11, 2022, 06:50:19 am
So far the authorities have the varroa restricted to a few locations, which all have links.
Last report was 83 infected locations.
Bees from outside the restricted zone have gone to almonds in their own states, which leaves the Victorian almonds short of bees, only about half the bees per drop.
Our are in 55 hives per drop but alot of others are as low as 48.
We had to Sugar shake 10% of our hives before going and Dept of Ag are also testing 10% of hives at almonds.
The outbreak seems contained at the moment.
Title: Re: Varroa in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 11, 2022, 07:40:55 am
Thanks Oldbeavo..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 12, 2022, 10:42:18 pm
97 sites
Temperatures are expected to start warming up by the end of next week ( at least here)

I have not seen any drones as yet. I would expect swarms are only a few weeks off. This the time when will be in trouble if more and more hives are found with Varroa.

The quaetion I have - if the new sites are within the eradictaion zone - why have they not been eradicated?


Varroa mite response - Daily Update
Ongoing Varroa mite tracing and surveillance has identified 4 additional infected premises (IPs) today, with the total number of IPs in NSW now at 97.
The new infected premises are at Salt Ash, Mayfield East and Beresfield, all within the eradication zone.
All cases to date either have clear links through the movement of hives or equipment, or are geographically related.
The Emergency Zone map can be found here: https://fal.cn/3qYSE
Beekeepers in the surveillance zones should continue to monitor their hives for the presence of Varroa mite.
You can keep up to date with the latest information at https://fal.cn/3qYSF
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 13, 2022, 12:16:08 am
max2
> The quaetion I have - if the new sites are within the eradictaion zone - why have they not been eradicated?

Its a tough battle Max. May I refer first paragraph in reply 22 and reply 30 to help those who may not understand what a real chore this battle is in the effort to element this awful mite. I an not attempting to dissuade the honest effort set forth by your officials and countrymen. As Michale Bush 'paraphrasing' also stated somewhere on this topic: If even one mite is overlooked or not eliminated the battle is lost.

Its all or nothing in my opinion. When I watched a video showing that some hives were eliminated in an apiary which tested positive,  while other hives in the same apiary were sparred, I felt sick for the following reasons in reply 22 and 30

Phillip





Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
>>Reply #22 on: June 29, 2022, 09:55:51 pm <<
Quote
quote NigelP
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?

Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
>>Reply #22 on: June 29, 2022, 09:55:51 pm <<
"I agree NigleP. Though not a death sentence, this news is a hit below the belt.
Lets consider: Even if every single domestic hive which has varroa is eradicated, feral bees which may be affected and harboring Varroa Destructor are still a breeding ground and a solid bridge for varroa. If just 'one' feral hive having varroa is missed, then the spread starts all over again. Millions of dollars wasted not counting the heartbreak and heartache. "

"I will in no way try and dissuade efforts to control this pest by any method or means our friends see fit to try and deem necessary. At the end of the day they must be able to say "we did our best and we controlled the problem", or "we did our best even if the problem is not solved"."

"Whether a successful eradication of varroa or not; It may well be time for our friends Down Under to educate themselves about Varroa Destructor if they haven't already...
There is LOADS of GREAT information here at Beemaster for your convenience concerning 'every conceivable aspect' of Varroa; From research papers posted from all over the world concerning every aspect of varroa, including treatment methods along with the breakdown of treating tools. The Search engine at the top of the page, might be a best friend to our friends from DownUnder at this time, win, lose, or draw... "

"I think it is safe to say, if we at Beemaster can be of aid, please call on us. Not only will the staff try and help but our many members from all over will try and help as well. I say this with complete confidence."

Sincerely,

Phillip
 




Also:

Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
?<<Reply #30 on: July 01, 2022, 11:41:46 am >>
"It has been determined that Varroa can not live more than 5 days without a host which is a promising good thing."

Honest Questions:

"If all domesticated managed hives are completely destroyed in the kill zones, what will become of the bees which may have missed the eradication process while out forging, which may host live varroa? Will they beg into unknown feral hives? The same question for eradicated hives on the outer limits of the kill zone. What will become of the forging bees which no longer have a home. Can they simply find their way to a hive 'outside' of the eradication zone, or an unknown feral hive 'outside or inside' the kill zone? Will they beg into a nearby hive, bringing with them the varroa they may have in their possession, (on their person)? "

"If a feral hive is eradicated (killed on the spot) with a 'certain chemical' which was suggested in the article I posted earlier, will the chemical kill the capped brood in these feral hives as well where varroa may be living and developing? Will this varroa survive? Will the varroa emerge from the capped brood and live for 5 days, allowing time for a robber bee from another unknown feral hive to come along allowing themselves to becoming a brand new Varroa host? "

"Most likely the officials there In Australia have already asked themselves these very same questions and probably many more? If so, what are their answers?"

"Varroa Mites | Texas Apiary Inspection Service (TAIS)
They are spread within a colony when bees come into contact with one another. Mites are also spread between colonies and apiaries via robbing, drifting, swarming, and absconding. Varroa mites are unable to live for more than a few days without a host and therefore, you will not find Varroa mites in a dead out hive."

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 15, 2022, 07:46:59 am
National Varroa Update:
At the time of writing Sunday 14th August there are 97 confirmed Infested Premises. Although there has
been a significant increase in the number of infested premises reported in the last two weeks, all cases
remained link or are geographically expected. The eradication zone has not grown at the same rate as the
new IP?s and has only grown slightly on the western edges of the Newcastle Zone. The Eradication covers
over 5000km2. Surveillance continues to be a priority at the Narrabri and Coffs Harbour Zones and to date
there has been no other mites found other than the original IP?s, this is encouraging. Surveillance has now
been conducted on 24,971 hives.
As for the destruction of hives there have been some challenges, subsequently there have been some
changes to the prescribed plan. These changes have related to retaining boxes and dealing with poly hives.
There is now a process where hives are being euthanised and sealed for a period, the bees and frames are
then disposed of, and the boxes are retained. To date 5,279 hives have been euthanised.
The Consultative Committee on Emergency Plant Pests or CCEPP meeting was held Tuesday 2 August 2022.
There was agreement at the meeting that varroa mite in New South Wales (NSW) is still technically feasible
to eradicate. However, there were concerns expressed over how NSW is going to manage feral beehives.
Currently, the priority of the NSW DPI is the eradication of hives in the red zones. NSW DPI have been asked
to come back with a strategy for the management of feral bee populations.
In addition, forward command posts or FCP?s are now located at Narrabri, Coffs Harbour, Balranald, and
Griffith. The Narrabri and Coffs Harbour forward command centres are focused on surveillance and ensuring
any mites that are in those zones are found. The FCP?s at Griffith and Balranald are focused on conducting
surveillance in almond pollination. This surveillance will be done with miticide stripes and sticky mats, which
has been identified to be the most sensitive method of surveillance at our disposal. The NSW DPI expects
around 47,000 hives to attend almond pollination in NSW and intensive surveillance would help confirm that
the outbreak is contained.
There has been some confusion and misinformation surrounding protocols to save high value genetics from
the eradication zones. Up until last week Tocal Collage, the home of the Plan B Breeding stock was not in an
eradication zone. A protocol has been in the works for several weeks and is soon to be finalised. This
protocol will see queen bees individually inspected under a microscope to clear them of varroa before being
relocated out of the zone. This will be offered to all commercial queen bee breeders in the zones to save as
much high value genetic stock from eradication as possible.
The process to reimburse beekeepers that have had hives destroyed in the zones is nearly finalised. The
Owner Reimbursement Costs or ORC?s are an already agreed upon mechanism to compensate commercial
beekeepers for their losses in a biosecurity response. The details of the ORC?s are available on the Plant
Health Australia website. As for the amateur beekeepers effected, there has already been an announcement
of the compensation that they will be offered
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on August 15, 2022, 08:16:03 am
Max2,
Any idea of what they are paying Beekeepers for the hives that they are burning?
Jim Altmiller 
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 15, 2022, 09:19:28 am
Thanks Max... The updated infestation map looks pretty much the same as the last one to me. Hopefully no mites made it to the almonds.

Phillip

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 15, 2022, 06:18:47 pm
Yes, I hope too. Almonds are a huge issue right now.

I understand that bees can't get back into Queensland ( my state)

About payment - sorry, I have not seen any information as yet.

max
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 16, 2022, 02:37:51 am
Hives to Qld ( my state) need permit

Keep varroa mite out of Queensland

A new Movement Control Order means there will be no movement of bees or beehives into Queensland from anywhere in Australia without a permit.   

We're working to make sure our honey bee industry and recreational beekeepers remain free from the threat of varroa mite. If you want to bring bees or beehives into Queensland, including returning bees which originated here, you will need to apply for a permit prior to entry.

Processed honey or processed beeswax, new or unused apiary appliances, and quarantine secured diagnostic honey samples for testing at a recognised diagnostic facility can continue to enter Queensland without restriction.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 19, 2022, 07:48:00 am
Max2,
Any idea of what they are paying Beekeepers for the hives that they are burning?
Jim Altmiller


Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 19, 2022, 07:53:45 am




The Green Dots are assessed negative cases.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on August 19, 2022, 08:00:17 am
How is it being hey have all of those negative results in the middle of the hot zone? I tho they were burning all of those hives.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 19, 2022, 08:17:21 am
How is it being hey have all of those negative results in the middle of the hot zone? I tho they were burning all of those hives.
Jim Altmiller

Same here Jim. It is my opinion those results can not be 'trusted' to hold up. See reply 151
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on August 19, 2022, 06:57:56 pm
Infected hives that will be destroyed will have a $550 reimbursement paid to the beekeeper. If frames only are destroyed or nucs are burnt, the reimbursement is less. My understanding is that testing will occur in all areas (even in the hot zone) This obviously provides invaluable information. You may have read that the yellow zones have now been removed (turned to blue). This is encouraging.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 20, 2022, 11:48:38 pm
"If they find mites in the hives at the almond farms"

Good point Jim. Lets hope they don't find any varroa in the Almonds. If they do not, such a report will be a wonderful sign! The well informed officials making these decisions must be loosing a lot of seep, while sweating bullets, trying to weight and juggle the facts of the situation while seeking an outcome that will turn out positive for the good of all. What a stressful time of tribulation for these folks... 

Our friend OldBeaveo and Karen may be in the Almonds. The good news is he is not located in NSW if I remember correctly. I feel for him and the other good pollinators who are probably sitting on pins and needles at this point, not knowing what the fate and future will be concerning Varroa Destructor. That goes for all of Australias" Beekeepers. They need our prayers and moral support..

Phillip

What are the reports concerning the bees in the Almonds? Meaning, what are the testing procedures and protocols? 

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 22, 2022, 02:58:12 am
Not sure if this will paste...

Two months, 99 infected sites and still no answers on where bee parasite varroa mite came from
ABC Rural
/ By Amelia Bernasconi, Joshua Becker, and Kim Honan
Posted 41m ago
41 minutes ago
, updated 35m ago
35 minutes ago
A beekeeper holds a comb in his hand covered in bees
It's still a mystery where the varroa mite came from but early testing is showing promising results.(ABC Rural: Laurissa Smith)
Help keep family & friends informed by sharing this article

Since the varroa mite was found at the Port of Newcastle two months ago, backyard gardeners to big business have kept a close eye on daily developments.

Ninety-nine infected bee hive sites later, the threat of the deadly bee parasite remains for Australia's $70-million-a-year honey industry, and the industries that rely on pollination.

To date, it has been found at New South Wales properties from the Central Coast, through the Hunter and up to the Coffs Coast and inland at Narrabri.

So, what have we learned and where to from here?
Backyard beekeepers beware

Could well-meaning backyard bee enthusiasts bring down Queensland's honey industry?
Bees swarming on an exposed rack from bee hive.
Read more
How did varroa mite get to Australia?

Millions of bees are being destroyed as a result. But how did varroa mite get here?

"It's a little bit too early to say," said Department of Primary Industries (DPI) acting chief plant protection officer, Chris Anderson.

Varroa mite was first detected on June 22 at two sentinel hives at the Port of Newcastle, so it could have come in via ship.

The sentinel hives are designed to detect pests and diseases at their earliest entry and are checked every six to eight weeks.

Given the COVID impacts on shipping, and subsequent delays at the port, the NSW DPI says it is difficult to tell how long the mite could have been lingering.

"One of [the COVID challenges] is the large backlog of container ships sitting off the coast of places like Newcastle," Dr Anderson said.
A close-up of a bee on an orange flower
Bee movements have been halted since June.(ABC Landline: Leah White)

Dr Anderson says there are currently a lot of different theories.

"If you look at the numbers of mites on the IPs [infected premises] around Newcastle, there certainly is a particular area, which is around Williamtown, on both sides of Williamtown, where there are higher numbers of mites than there are anywhere else, which would indicate that that's the epicentre," he said.

"That doesn't indicate that someone has done anything illegal. It may simply be an accidental import on cargo or it may be a swarm that's come off a ship off the coast of Newcastle and has flown into that area."
WA beekeeper on high alert

WA is thousands of kilometres from the varroa mite outbreak near the Port of Newcastle. But it has still put this beekeeper on high alert.
He has a big beard and looks at the camera
Read more
Where in the world did it come from?

Again, we are not sure yet but more testing is underway.

Australia had been one of the few countries around the world to have kept the varroa mite out, and there is a long list of where these mites could have come from ? Asia, Europe, North America, South America or New Zealand.

We know from early testing that the varroa mite that NSW is dealing with does not have any issues with chemical resistance to miticides used overseas.

"Which is good news," Dr Anderson said.

"That means that the chemical applications that we would be using to control varroa in Australia would be effective at this point in time.

"But we still don't have that answer yet on the actual source country, the country of origin."
A man wearing a high vis shirt crouches next to a bee hive.
NSW Apiarists' Association president Steve Fuller says early testing shows positive results.(ABC Rural: Kim Honan)

NSW Apiarists Association head Steve Fuller says that gives some industry some confidence and miticide strips have been bulk ordered.

"It's caught us a little bit unawares because we didn't have a great big stockpile because it has a [short] shelf life," he said.

"I think we had 80,000 come in a couple of weeks ago and we've got another container coming in."

Mr Fuller said most beekeepers would be facing a $50-$80 a year price to have the strips in their hives ? if varroa cannot be eradicated.

"The bees actually brush against the strips and that coats them with a miticide, then the mite comes into contact with it and the mite dies," he said.
Bees swarm
There are conflicting views regarding whether the mite can still be contained.(ABC Rural: Kim Honan)
Can varroa mite be eradicated?

With nearly 100 infected hives, has the horse bolted?

Ben Oldroyd, emeritus professor of biology from the University of Sydney, praised the efforts from industry and government but warned the prospect of eradication was unlikely.

"The first point that we must remember is it's never been eradicated in any other country in the world," he said.

"The second point is that we're probably better prepared than any other country in the world.

"It does seem to me that there are a large number of infected premises and the likelihood of keeping it under control from overseas experience would seem to be very low."
Title: Re: Varroa in Australia
Post by: Oldbeavo on August 22, 2022, 06:16:49 am
No more new infections for the last few days. They have found 99 in total.
Seems like he control areas are working, They have inspected hives in the 50k radius of infected hives and not found any Varroa outside the 10k infected zone around any infection.
At present they are euthanizing all hives in the 10k zone and once this is done they will move onto destroying feral bees.
I am confident they have things under control, i hope.
Title: Re: Varroa in Australia
Post by: Bob Wilson on August 22, 2022, 01:06:02 pm
I hope so, Beavo. I tend to think of Varroa like Covid-19. Nations work hard to keep it out, but it's only a matter of time. We eventually learn to live with it as a community.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on August 22, 2022, 02:03:07 pm
Just want to let everyone know that I merged Oldbeavo's topic "Varroa in Australia" with this one.  If anyone has any updates, questions, or comments about varroa's incursion into Australia please post them here instead of starting a new thread.  We are trying to make this a master thread for the discussion so that anyone looking for information on the subject will have it all in one place.  Thanks.  :smile:
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 24, 2022, 01:05:15 am

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 27, 2022, 06:37:29 am
From NSW
Saturday 27 August


🐝 Varroa mite emergency response daily update 🐝

🐝 No new detections......

🐝 Euthanasia operations continue in the Eradication zones.....
    Affected beekeepers will be contacted directly by NSW DPI to make arrangements as the operation progresses.

🐝 The response team understands the challenge of this task and thanks the community for working with us.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 29, 2022, 04:41:05 am
This is the latest:
Dear Beekeeper,

Victoria remains free from Varroa mite.

Agriculture Victoria has reported a detection of Braula fly during surveillance for Varroa mite.

Braula fly is a small species of wingless fly that lives in honeybee colonies and is similar in appearance to Varroa mite.

It is established in Tasmania and is widespread overseas. The fly is considered exotic in Victoria and as such, the bees from the infected hives are being euthanised as a precautionary measure to prevent spread.

Braula fly is not considered to be a serious threat to commercial beekeeping or honey production, but it does affect honeycomb quality.

Chief Plant Health Officer Dr Rosa Crnov said the detection highlighted the importance of surveillance programs and well-tested response protocols.

?The detection gives us confidence that the surveillance system is working,? Dr Crnov said.

American foulbrood disease has also been detected in a small number of hives by the surveillance teams during testing for Varroa mite.

The detection of Braula fly is a good reminder for beekeepers to be vigilant and continue to monitor their hives coming into spring.

?We are encouraging people to do these tests regularly and report results,? Dr Crnov said.

Beekeepers need to conduct test for mites, looking for Varroa mite, tropilaelaps, and Braula fly. These tests include the sugar shake test, alcohol wash test and brood uncapping.

?It?s also a good idea to add an extra step to your pest and disease tests with a visual inspection of the bees for Braula fly,? Dr Crnov said.

?We now know that the Braula fly can get caught on the bees and won?t always come away in an alcohol wash or sugar shake, so it?s important that you visually inspect adult bees to check for any Braula fly clinging to their backs.?

Beekeepers also need to inspect their hives for brood diseases ? including American foulbrood, European foulbrood, Chalk foulbrood and Sacbrood.

?If you see anything strange make sure you report it to the relevant authorities,? Dr Crnov said.

?It?s all part of keeping bees, beekeepers and the broader agriculture industry safe.?

To report the presence of an endemic notifiable bee pest or disease contact 136 186 or email  honeybee.biosecurity@agriculture.vic.gov.au.

To report an exotic pest or disease such as Varroa mite, Braula fly, and tropilelaps, immediately call the Exotic Plant Pest Hotline 1800 084 881.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 29, 2022, 07:04:08 am
Max did the report show a 'close up picture' of this detection? Thanks for the updated post.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 29, 2022, 07:57:47 am
No Philip, no picture.
Here is a link to this pest: https://beeaware.org.au/archive-pest/braula-fly/#ad-image-0

One more thing to watch out for
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 29, 2022, 10:30:23 am
Thanks Max....
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on August 29, 2022, 12:45:53 pm
Braula fly is a small species of wingless fly that lives in honeybee colonies and is similar in appearance to Varroa mite.

It is established in Tasmania and is widespread overseas. The fly is considered exotic in Victoria and as such, the bees from the infected hives are being euthanised as a precautionary measure to prevent spread.

Braula fly is not considered to be a serious threat to commercial beekeeping or honey production, but it does affect honeycomb quality.

It's unclear to me why an entire hive would need to be euthanized for this pest.  In the same breath they are recommending killing a colony to prevent the spread, and reassuring you that it's not a serious problem.  How do those things go together?  Braula flies (also commonly and incorrectly called bee lice) are, to the best of our knowledge, a commensalist parasite, meaning a parasite that derives benefit from but does not generally harm its host. 

No Philip, no picture.
Here is a link to this pest: https://beeaware.org.au/archive-pest/braula-fly/#ad-image-0

One more thing to watch out for
This link even mentions this as the only management needed. 
Quote
Generally, Braula fly is not a significant pest of honey bees. In most cases control is not required as Braula fly doesn?t have a significant impact on the colony?s health or honey yields. However, beekeepers specialising in comb honey production may need to consider control measures if Braula fly is present in high numbers during peak production periods. This is because the tunnelling of Braula fly larvae affects the appearance and marketability of honey comb.

Some simple management options exist that can control the impact of Braula fly, these include:

Freezing combs for at least 48 hours. This will kill all life stages of the Braula fly and is a simple method for disinfecting combs that potentially contain Braula fly larvae.
The normal practice of extracting honey is another effective means to control the larval stage of the Braula fly, as the larvae are removed with the caps during the extraction process. This will reduce the population of Braula fly in the hive and reduce the damage they cause for a period of time until the Braula fly population builds up again.
   

Here's another link I found for information about them.
https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/bees/bee_louse.htm
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 29, 2022, 06:39:08 pm
Yes, possibly an overreaction BUT...Australia has been sucessfull in keeping out many diseases and right now we are trying to keep out or control not only Varroa but Foot and Mouth Diseases in cattle  and another cattle disease, a disease in bananas and Papaya...Avian Flue, Swine fever..you name it, it is on our very long border.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 01, 2022, 12:20:30 pm
The Good News!!!

No New Detections since August 18!!  That is according to the daily reports put out by NSW: Department of Primary Industries..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 04, 2022, 10:21:20 pm
If all beekeepers would do the right thing...

Two-and-a-half months after varroa destructor was detected in New South Wales, another exotic honey bee pest has been found in the state for the first time.
Key points:

    The exotic honey bee parasite braula fly has been detected in NSW for the first time
    It was also detected in Victoria last month during varroa mite surveillance in almond pollination hives
    The NSW DPI says it will investigate the illegal movement of hives from Victoria to NSW

Braula fly, endemic in Tasmania and every continent in the world, was detected in Victoria during varroa mite surveillance of almond hives last month.

The NSW Department of Primary Industries (DPI) has now confirmed a detection of braula fly via the illegal movement of beehives from Victoria to NSW.

"NSW DPI has negotiated the immediate return of the hives back to Victoria and is working with the owner to ensure that there is no risk of spread from these hives and NSW is kept free of braula fly," a spokesperson said.

"Braula is a wingless fly that lives in honey bee colonies but is not considered a significant pest or threat to the welfare of honey bees."

It is a notifiable pest in NSW which means producers have to report any detections to authorities.

NSW Apiarists' Association president Steve Fuller said while not a significant bee threat, the detection of another exotic pest was still very concerning.

"It's not a bad pest like varroa, it's a pest that actually feeds on honey so it damages honeycomb, so producers of honeycomb or what we call chunk comb must freeze it now before they can sell it," he said.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on September 06, 2022, 06:47:06 am
Braula flies are nothing. They don't cause any serious damage at all.  We freeze all our comb honey before sales not for Braula, but Wax moths.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 07, 2022, 05:16:46 am
Wish us luck...

Hives returning.

Remaining vigilant against the threat of varroa mite
Although Queensland remains free of varroa mite (Varroa destructor), Biosecurity Queensland continues to
be vigilant to minimise the risk of this pest entering our state.
Following consultation with the Queensland Beekeeper?s Association, biosecurity instrument permit
conditions have been developed for those bees, hives, and equipment returning to Queensland from
attending the 2022 almond pollination event in Victoria and South Australia.
The conditions have been developed to ensure that the returning hives are a very low risk of carrying varroa
mite, consistent with how the Australian Government manages international trade risks.
Returning beekeepers are required to apply for and be granted a biosecurity instrument permit prior to entry
into Queensland. Conditions include:
Returning beekeepers are required to demonstrate that their hives have been tested for varroa mite
using an alcohol wash plus drone/worker brood uncapping before leaving Victoria or South Australia,
and to test them again 10-12 weeks after their return to Queensland.
Beekeepers must ensure testing, destination and traceability records of all individual hives are
maintained for 12 months.
Biosecurity Queensland case managers will be assigned to every returning beekeeper to ensure all the permit
conditions are known and understood, and compliance activities will be undertaken to ensure the permit
conditions are met. Penalties apply to beekeepers who do not meet their obligations under the Biosecurity Act
2014.
Report the health of hives via Bee 123
Spring is a perfect time to check the health of your hives, even if you do not find any suspect mites.
All beekeepers are encouraged to check their hives and report online using the quick and easy to use
Bee123 form.
The data gathered from checking hives will helps us to understand the number and health of beehives in
Queensland.
More information
Read more about varroa mite.
Visit the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries engagement hub?help protect our bees by reading
the latest FAQs or ask us a question
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on September 08, 2022, 07:27:43 am
Wish us luck...

Hives returning.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 08, 2022, 08:05:57 am
Thanks :wink:

The risk must be considerable.

Even if every beekeepr is doing an alcohol wash...there must be a chance that a mite is missed.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on September 08, 2022, 09:17:55 am
>Even if every beekeeper is doing an alcohol wash...there must be a chance that a mite is missed.
Exactly.  And it only takes one...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 08, 2022, 09:27:16 pm
>Even if every beekeeper is doing an alcohol wash...there must be a chance that a mite is missed.
Exactly.  And it only takes one...

True,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 11, 2022, 01:40:47 pm
I have noticed their has been no new 'daily' reports or updates concerning Varroa Destructor since September 8 from my relied on source: Department of Primary Industries..  No News is good news? 😊

Phillip


Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 13, 2022, 02:30:31 am
Todays' up-date tells us " no mites found"

I will try to cut and paste the message - sorry, it is rather long

13 September 2022
Queensland Beekeepers? Association
Weekly Varroa Mite Update ? Week Ending 9/09/2022
The detection of Varroa destructor in Newcastle on the 22nd June 2022 has created much anxiety within the
Australian beekeeping industry. In an effort to streamline our communications to our members the QBA will
now offer weekly updates to our members and affiliate clubs giving insight into our current areas of focus.
We actively encourage all beekeepers to undertake varroa mite surveillance activities on managed hives and
report the results (including negative results) to the Bee 123 portal. For more information on the Bee 123
portal please click here.
Weekly Update 9 September 2022
Bee 123 data to date:
Key Points:
? Queensland?s movement control order (MCO) remains in place.
? Movement conditions for varroa mite carriers (dead hives for sterilisation and honey supers) into
Queensland from NSW have been developed.
? Permit application forms for movement of honey supers from NSW will be distributed 9 September
2022.
? Permit application forms for movement of dead hives for sterilisation from NSW will be finalised and
available early next week.
? DAF have provided a case manager to the identified Beekeepers in NSW to support the urgent
movement of the honey supers into Queensland.
? Queensland continues to work with the other state Jurisdictions to get agreement on conditions for
movement of hives with bees across state borders.
? DAF is undertaking surveillance activities for the pollination events in Bundaberg
? Work is ongoing for developing the permit conditions for Braula fly carriers to enter Queensland
from states where it has been detected.
Total beekeepers reporting results 273
Total Hives checked 2495
Total hives reported 8574
Mites found or suspected 0
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? DAF is undertaking additional surveillance activities in Queensland, including undertaking varroa
mite surveys at the upcoming pollination event in the Bundaberg area starting 12 Sept 2022.
? DAF continues to record and monitor surveillance results on the Bee 123 reporting page of the DAF
website and encourages all beekeepers who have not yet done a test and reported the results to
DAF to do so as soon as possible.
Upcoming Events:
QBA Brisbane Branch Meeting
When: Saturday 24th of September 2022, 2:00PM
Where: DAF Research Facility, 26-40 Delancey St Cleveland
Open to: QBA Brisbane Branch members and Local Affiliate Club Executive.
Past Events:
The recording of AHBIC?s online webinar held on 31 August 2022 can now be watched from your computer
or electronic device. Please click here to watch th
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 13, 2022, 09:10:29 am
"Todays' up-date tells us " no mites found"

Max this is GREAT news!

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 13, 2022, 06:02:01 pm
Indeed good news...BUT the hives are coming back into Qld after Almonds.

I meet a beekeepr from the affected area the other day and she told me that her 3 hives will be destroyed...but are still sitting in her backyard.

Well, this is swarming season and I would have hoped that hives in the high risk areas had been dealt with by now.

It is not over...but looking as positive as we could expect
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 14, 2022, 03:38:01 am
1000 hives will be destroyed
Berry growers on the NSW Mid North coast say summer berry supplies will be impacted as an aggressive plan to eradicate the varroa mite in the Coffs Harbour region gets underway.
Key points:

    Mid North Coast Berry growers face crop losses as pollination services are restricted
    Around 1,000 hives will be destroyed or have bees euthanased
    Native flies and bees are being looked at as alterative pollinators to mitigate crop losses

The parasite was detected at Nana Glen in July.

Despite heavy surveillance finding no new cases of the deadly bee parasite in the area since, the eradication of all commercial and recreational hives in the 10-kilometre "red zone" will commence by the end of this week.

Around 1,000 beehives will be destroyed, leaving one of Australia's largest berry-growing regions without proper pollination services for at least six months.

Department of Primary Industries (DPI) representatives and NSW Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders confirmed the risk-mitigation plan at a meeting in Coffs Harbour on Tuesday night.

"It was challenging news for the growers to hear," Berries Australia chief executive Rachel McKenzie said.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 15, 2022, 10:03:31 pm
UPDATED Emergency Order No. 28
Commercial Queen Breeders can resume business
Queens and queen cells can now be raised and sold commercially within NSW with conditions including
completing the Tocal training and completing at least one alcohol wash (must notify the department of
results through the online form) on the apiary prior to the first round of catching queens. In addition, it is
also a requirement to maintain accurate records of queens moving out of your operation.
Records that must be maintained include.
? the date on which movement occurs, and
? details of the origin and destination premises
Washing requirements have changed
Alcohol washing of hives is now no longer tied to hive movements. NSW apiarists now must do at least one
alcohol wash in every 16 weeks period regardless of if they move or not. Beekeepers must report the
results of the alcohol washes through the online form when completed.
The ratio of washing hives has not changed. The following applies to an operation:-
? Less than 64 hives owned ? all hives must be washed
? 64 hives up to 640 hives owned ? washing of 64 hives
? 640 hives or more owned ? 10% of hives washed
Hive movements require a declaration
Commercial beekeepers who want to move hives must submit a movement declaration form through the
existing online system. Beekeepers must have completed at least one alcohol wash in accordance with the
washing requirements above before moving. The movement declaration form also requires beekeepers to
have completed the Tocal online training course.
Dealing with swarms in zones
In the PURPLE and RED zones registered beekeepers can catch a swarm, but only for the purpose of
euthanising the swarm. Swarms must not be kept in this Zone.
In the BLUE ZONE a registered beekeeper may catch and keep a swarm. You must alcohol wash the
swarm before you move it, and once it has been moved to your apiary it can be managed as any other
hive.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 20, 2022, 08:44:26 am
Just read that the breeder queens at Tocal College had to be destroyed - a big setback.

Varroa mite detection forces the destruction of research hives in NSW's Hunter region
NSW Country Hour
/ By Kim Honan and Joshua Becker
Posted 2h ago
2 hours ago
A queen bee among hundreds of bees on a hive frame.
Some 200 production and 50 breeder colonies were euthanased at Tocal Agricultural College.(ABC Rural: Kim Honan)
Help keep family & friends informed by sharing this article

Researchers have been forced to euthanase 250 of their breeding and production bee colonies after a varroa mite incursion near a facility in NSW's Hunter region.
Key points:

    Researchers were able to save 48 high value queen bees from euthanasia
    The destruction of research colonies is considered a setback for apiarists nationwide
    Permits are available for beekeepers to move queen bees amid varroa lockdown restrictions

Varroa mite, which has devastated bee colonies around the world, has been detected at Butterwick, less than 10 kilometres from Tocal Agricultural College.

NSW Department of Primary Industries Bees technical specialist Elizabeth Frost said it was a disappointing setback for the industry.

"Overall, 200 production and 50 breeder colonies, and nucleus colonies on top of that, have all been euthanased," she said.
women working on beehive
Elizabeth Frost says 48 high-value queen bees were assessed and able to be rehomed.(Supplied)

Australian Honey Bee Industry Council chief executive officer Danny Le Feuvre said it was part of the industry-wide plan for eradication.

"Unfortunately, Tocal has just fallen into the red zone and those hives are no different to any other beekeeper hives," he said.

"If we are to achieve eradication, we need to remove all the honeybees from those red zones."
Plan Bee queens saved

Nearly 50 high-value queen bees in Plan Bee, the National Honey Bee Genetic Improvement Program, were able to be securely removed and rehomed.
beekeepers working their hives
The research facilities' hives have been destroyed.(Supplied: NSW DPI)

Through a permit system, Ms Frost was able to get some queens out to areas in the blue zone for caretaking.

"We applied for a permit to conserve a limited number high-value queens," she said.

"We got 50 assessed. A couple of them just died in the introduction ? they were a bit on the old side.

"It's really important to our program because, I mean, two years of selection doesn't sound like that many, but this program is a national one."

Permits to conserve limited numbers of high value queen genetics were also available for commercial queen breeders within varroa mite eradication zones.
Working to increase genetics

Mr Le Feuvre said the Plan Bee program was one of the most significant research projects for the industry.

"It's really important to try and develop a breeding program to increase genetics as well as providing data collection around those genetics and having estimated breeding values and really uplifting the industry's genetic potential," he said.
a man sitting on a fence in an agricultural setting under blue skies
Mr Le Feuvre says the industry is hopeful the outbreak will be contained.(YouTube: AgExcellence)

DPI researchers will refocus their efforts on developing an online course for commercial beekeepers to improve bee genetics and continue to collect records for ongoing research.

Mr Le Feuvre was hopeful it would help other queen bee breeders in the red zone who wanted to save their genetics.

"At this stage, the Tocal queens were sort of the first cab off the rank to make sure the protocol works," he said.

"And it didn't injure the queens ? and now we've done that successfully, we're able to, you know, look at others that want that to happen with their hives."
A blue sign in the middle of a paddock reads "bee research and training centre" with an arrow in its direction
The bee breeding program at Tocal is one the industry's largest research projects.(ABC Upper Hunter: Bridget Murphy)

Ms Frost said it could be years before hives could be re-established at Tocal.

"It could be three years from the point of the last detection of the mite in the red zone, potentially," she said.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 21, 2022, 07:44:42 am
One new dedection - makes 100
21 September 2022
Queensland Beekeepers? Association
Weekly Varroa Mite Update ? Week Ending 20/09/2022
The detection of Varroa destructor in Newcastle on the 22nd June 2022 has created much anxiety within the
Australian beekeeping industry. In an effort to streamline our communications to our members the QBA will
now offer weekly updates to our members and affiliate clubs giving insight into our current areas of focus.
We actively encourage all beekeepers to undertake varroa mite surveillance activities on managed hives and
report the results (including negative results) to the Bee 123 portal. For more information on the Bee 123
portal please click here.
Weekly Update 20th September 2022
Bee 123 data to date:
Key Points:
? There was 1 new detection of Varroa mite in NSW reported on 18 September. The new detection
was located within the existing red eradication zone in the Newcastle area. A beekeeper called in the
result after completing surveillance at home. This brings total infected premises across NSW to 100.
? Queensland?s movement control order (MCO) remains in place.
? Biosecurity Queensland Officers continue to respond to potential breaches.
? Moving supers and equipment to Queensland from the General Emergency Surveillance Zone (?blue
zone) for irradiation, requires a biosecurity instrument permit (BIP). To apply for a biosecurity
instrument permit visit https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/business-priorities/biosecurity/policylegislation-regulation/biosecurity-instrument-permit Please allow 3-5 days for applications to be
processed.
? DAF continues to record and monitor surveillance results on the Bee 123 reporting page of the DAF
website and encourages all beekeepers who have not yet done a test and reported the results to
DAF to do so as soon as possible
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 27, 2022, 02:09:45 am
The next step

This is only part of the message - I could not cut and paste the lot - it is very long

Varroa mite eradication shifts to removal of wild European honey
bees ? Jerrys Plains
NSW Department of Primary Industries (NSW DPI) is continuing efforts in response to the
Varroa mite incursion, confirmed as Varroa destructor, detected in biosecurity surveillance
hives at the Port of Newcastle.
The apiary industry, Local Land Services, Rural Fire Service, National Parks and Wildlife
Service and the Environmental Protection Authority have been welcome and important
partners with NSW DPI in this national response.
Following detection of Varroa mite, our team has worked to contain, trace and eradicate the
bee parasitic mite from zones in NSW. As the response moves closer to all managed
European honey bees within 10km of a Varroa mite infested hive being euthanised, the focus
is shifting to euthanising wild European honeybees within the eradication zone.
Wild European honeybee management plan
Following on from the euthanasia and destruction of recreational and commercially
managed hives within the red eradication emergency zone, the next phase in the eradication
of Varroa mite includes the complete removal of wild European honeybees from the zone.
Information on the emergency zones can be found at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa.
Euthanasia of wild European honey bees will be completed using a commonly available
insecticide called fipronil. Fipronil bait stations will be located and operated by NSW DPI
within the 10 kilometre zone around each of the premises where Varroa mite was detected
(the Varroa mite red eradication emergency zone).
To ensure the safety of people, animals, livestock and the environment this work is strictly
controlled by NSW DPI, in accordance with an Australian Pesticide and Veterinary Medicines
Authority permit [PER84929v2]. The fipronil bait stations are designed to exclude other
animals and insects, and to prevent contamination of soil and water. While the fipronil bait
stations are in active use the baited area will be supervised by trained staff.
Rollout of the plan
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 27, 2022, 02:10:59 am
Here is the link to the full message - if it works

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/Varroa-mite-eradication-shifts-to-removal-of-wild-European-honey-bees-Jerrys-Plains_.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 28, 2022, 04:47:13 am
Of course we all hope that Australia can beat Varroa.
We shall see.
If varroa is with us for good, we need to make some very difficult decisions.

This is a story from Cuba:

SEPTEMBER 27, 2022
RECAPPING AND MITE REMOVAL BEHAVIOUR IN CUBA
Recapping and mite removal behaviour in Cuba: home to the world?s largest population of Varroa-resistant European honeybees

By: Anais Rodr?guez Luis, Isobel Grindrod, Georgiana Webb, Adolfo P?rez Pi?eiro & Stephen John Martin

Scientific Reports volume 12, Article number: 15597 (2022)

Abstract



The Varroa destructor ectoparasitic mite has spread globally and in conjunction with Deformed Wing Virus has killed millions of honeybee (Apis mellifera) colonies. This has forced Northern hemisphere beekeepers into using miticides to avoid mass colony losses. However, in many Southern hemisphere countries widespread treatment did not occur since miticides were prohibitively expensive, or a centralised choice was made not to treat, both allowing natural selection to act. The Varroa mite initially caused high losses before mite-resistance appeared in the honeybee populations. Initially, mite-resistance was only associated with African and Africanised honeybees. Although recently, several isolated mite-resistant European honeybee populations have appeared. Here we studied the mite-resistance in Cuba and found high rates of recapping of infested worker cells (77%), high removal of mites (80%) and corresponding low mite fertility (r = 0.77). These are all traits found in all naturally evolved Varroa-resistant populations. We can confirm Cuba has the world?s largest European mite-resistant population with 220,000 colonies that have been treatment-free for over two decades and illustrating the power of natural selection. Cuban honeybees are also highly productive, 40?70 kg of honey produced annually, and are mild mannered. Cuba is an excellent example of what is possible when honeybees are allowed to adapt naturally to Varroa with minimal human interference.

We are here to share current happenings in the bee industry. Bee Culture gathers and shares articles published by outside sources. For more information about this specific article, please visit the original publish source: Recapping and mite removal behaviour in Cuba: home to the world?s largest population of Varroa-resistant European honeybees | Scientific Reports (nature.com)

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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on September 28, 2022, 06:50:41 am
Those of us who went to small cell (4.9mm or smaller cells) observed this behavior as soon as we regressed to the smaller cells.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 28, 2022, 07:41:59 am
Interesting.
Could you please expand on this?
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on September 28, 2022, 10:02:21 am
Back in the early 2000s many of us started doing either natural cell or small cell or both.  We immediately noted changes in the behavior of the bees.  They were biting mites, which we had not seen, and uncapping purple eyed pupae, especially drones but also workers.  After they are uncapped for a while they get recapped.  I could never figure out if they were trying to dry them out to harm the Varroa, or if they were trying to remove the Varroa.  But it seemed to help.  I also observed them grooming Varroa off.  I have an observation hive in the living room so these were real time observations, and not just snapshots when opening the hives, though there was that as well.  Dead mites with dented shells were documented and photographed.  These were obvious changes in behavior that occurred when getting bees back to natural size.
https://bushfarms.com/beessctheories.htm
https://bushfarms.com/beesnotreatments.htm
https://bushfarms.com/beesnaturalcell.htm
https://bushfarms.com/beesfoursimplesteps.htm
https://bushfarms.com/beesfoundationless.htm
https://bushfarms.com/beesframewidth.htm
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 03, 2022, 10:04:03 pm
4. October

No new dedections

4 October 2022
Queensland Beekeepers? Association
Weekly Varroa Mite Update ? Week Ending 28/09/2022
The detection of Varroa destructor in Newcastle on the 22nd June 2022 has created much anxiety within the
Australian beekeeping industry. In an effort to streamline our communications to our members the QBA will
now offer weekly updates to our members and affiliate clubs giving insight into our current areas of focus.
We actively encourage all beekeepers to undertake varroa mite surveillance activities on managed hives and
report the results (including negative results) to the Bee 123 portal. For more information on the Bee 123
portal please click here.
Weekly Update 28th September 2022
Bee 123 data to date:
Key Points:
? Biosecurity Instrument Permits for movement into in Qld of beehive supers for extraction & used
hives for irradiation from the NSW GEZ (?Blue Zone?) have been developed and are being issued.
o Information on permit conditions and information have been added to the DAF eHub
? Inspections to ensure compliance with permit conditions scheduled to commence 29/9/22.
? Scheduled compliance activities for all permitted activities to commence this week.
? The QBA is continuing its work with Biosecurity Queensland to identify solutions for the safe return
of hives stranded outside of Queensland.
Upcoming Events:
? Industry webinar to be held in collaboration with QBA on hive movement and permits?
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 07, 2022, 04:18:32 am
So far, so good:

6 October 2022
Queensland Beekeepers? Association
Weekly Varroa Mite Update ? Week Ending 06/10/2022
The detection of Varroa destructor in Newcastle on the 22nd June 2022 has created much anxiety within the
Australian beekeeping industry. In an effort to streamline our communications to our members the QBA will
now offer weekly updates to our members and affiliate clubs giving insight into our current areas of focus.
We actively encourage all beekeepers to undertake varroa mite surveillance activities on managed hives and
report the results (including negative results) to the Bee 123 portal. For more information on the Bee 123
portal please click here.
Weekly Update 6th October 2022
Bee 123 data to date:
Bundaberg Pollination Event Varroa Mite Surveillance:
*Surveillance activities: alcohol wash, drone uncapping and frame inspection.
Total Apiaries/Beekeepers tested: 8
Total Hives Inspected: 224
Total Hives Present at surveillance locations: 2413
Total No. locations/properties surveyed: 8
Key Points:
? Biosecurity Instrument Permits for movement into in Qld of beehive supers for extraction & used
hives for irradiation from the NSW GEZ (?Blue Zone?) have been developed and are being issued.
o Information on permit conditions and information have been added to the DAF eHub
o 15 permits issued
o 5 not approved
o 4 in progress (all within expected time frame)
? There have been two treatment facility (2) compliance inspections with positive outcomes.
Total beekeepers reporting results 320
Total Hives checked 2782
Total hives reported 9837
Total No. of Recreational Beekeeper Surveys: 231
Total No. of Commercial Beekeeper Surveys: 86
Mites found or suspected 0
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? Scheduled compliance activities for all permitted activities to commence this week.
? Risk assessments for permits currently being developed:
o Movement of Queen bees from interstate and NSW blue zone.
o Harmonised movement of hives NSW blue zone to VIC, SA & QLD.
o Movement of apiary equipment and PPE from interstate and NSW blue zone for irradiation
for endemic bee pest control and back into NSW and/or to stay in QLD.
o Movement of used/dead hives from the NSW red and purple zones to QLD for irradiation for
endemic bee pest control and back into NSW and/or to stay in QLD
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 07, 2022, 04:19:48 am
I still can't get queens in from NSW - for good reasons.
It has slowed my ability to make nuc's.
I'm still chasing Jo Horner genetics.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 18, 2022, 07:20:25 pm
18. October report

No new Varroa dedections reported.

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20VD%20Update%20to%20Members%2012102022.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on October 18, 2022, 09:04:23 pm
Max this is multiplying great news (no new detections). You folks have done and are doing a tremendous job at keeping Varroa Destructor under control! Have you any idea as to when Australia can once again be officially declared Varroa 'free'? Is that hope being discussed by officials and the Beekeeping Community?

Phillip





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 18, 2022, 10:00:37 pm
Hi Philip,

this is nothing official..

A woman who is a beekeeper in the affected area told me that they are not allowed to introduce any hives into the area " for 3 years".

The rules seem very strict at this point. I had 20 queens on order from a breeder in NSW ( the affected state)  and they are not allowed to post any queens to us , here in Qld.

This is peak swarming season BUT large parts of of the Southern states  ( NSW and Vic) are affected by very heavy rain and huge flood events.

Let's re-assess the situation in another 6 months...and keep hoping for a good outcome.

It is raining here too...and we had such a lovely flow. More rain on the way.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 24, 2022, 07:47:16 am
I'm always rather nervous when I open another up-date.
No new dedections is good news.

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20VD%20Update%20to%20Members%2019102022.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on October 24, 2022, 07:57:10 am
Max,
Great news. They seem to bee doing a great job of eradicating them.  Your beekeepers must all bee doing the same at a great cost. I did not think it could bee done. All it would take is one person to hide their bees from the officials for this to fail.
Congratulations.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 24, 2022, 08:23:14 am
Yes, Jim, quite a few people are doing a terrific job .
It is not easy to keep this momentum going.
One beekeeper has collected 25 000 signitures suggesting that the Bio Secuity should just let Varro taker over.
He states that it is " just a Flea" and can be controlled " in 3 days".

I have written to him...with not much success.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on October 24, 2022, 08:48:47 am
Max,
He obviously has no idea what he is asking for.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 01, 2022, 08:31:54 am
Quote
max2
One beekeeper has collected 25 000 signitures suggesting that the Bio Secuity should just let Varro taker over.
He states that it is " just a Flea" and can be controlled " in 3 days".


Max,
He obviously has no idea what he is asking for.
Jim Altmiller

Agreed, obviously not Jim. If that was only true.. I wish it was only as a flea which could be controlled in just 3 days. Varroa are a bit more complicated than that.. A thorn in the side so to speak...

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 01, 2022, 08:35:43 am
Good news...

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2026102022.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 01, 2022, 08:45:08 am
Max this is great news! I hope you don't mind that I am copying and posting a picture of the latest results from you 3 page report. I recommend the whole report being read, especially by your fellow Countrymen of Australia. Good Job Australia!

Phillip

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on November 01, 2022, 10:34:46 am
It does seem like good news which could justify the extermination of so many colonies and blood lines. Likely still a long road though before patting the back but yes, so far well done NSW beekeepers.
Flea? :eye roll:
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bill Murray on November 01, 2022, 10:38:29 am
Quote
that it is " just a Flea" and can be controlled " in 3 days".
unbelievable
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 09, 2022, 11:39:04 pm
Another update:

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2004112022.pdf

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 15, 2022, 07:03:38 am
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bill Murray on November 20, 2022, 11:37:01 am
I guess after reading that. Swarming is where the issue would lay. Just one swarm left unmitigated could lead to disaster.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 20, 2022, 11:43:37 am
I think so Bill, but as you I am hoping they have it whipped!.... It will be grand if the Australians win this battle! It is hard to imagine beekeeping without the concern of Mr 'Varroa Destructor' always lurking in the shadows.. Mmmm

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 21, 2022, 02:03:40 am
The latest:  https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%20171122.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 24, 2022, 11:03:55 pm
Another discovery - this is bad.

It appears that the Port of Newcastle was not the entry point.

There has been a story circulating that a beekeeper imported - with no permit - Queens.

We have not seen the end of this

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-25/varroa-mite-detection-prompts-eradication-zone-expansion/101697852

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 25, 2022, 12:09:59 am
Sorry to hear the bad news Max....

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 25, 2022, 03:08:22 am
Here is the official update

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGrbHsKVZswdhdhFktHzrVmmFMS
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on December 01, 2022, 04:02:08 am
It is a very sad story..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-01/queen-bee-breeders-struggle-with-varroa-mite-control-measures/101720904
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on December 01, 2022, 11:23:36 am
That is a sad story Max.


We have gone over the following basic information before. Just a refresher in case some of our newer members or guest might have missed it:

This small piece of basic information is taken from an article published by Texas A&M Agrilife

Topic: Varroa Mites

"They are spread within a colony when bees come into contact with one another. Mites are also spread between colonies and apiaries via robbing, drifting, swarming, and absconding. Varroa mites are unable to live for more than a few days without a host"
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on December 10, 2022, 03:57:04 am
This is the latest update that I can find...



Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on December 15, 2022, 04:38:23 pm
I had no local news for a while.
This is from " Catch the Buzz":

https://www.beeculture.com/varroa-eradication-in-australia/
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on December 15, 2022, 05:02:48 pm

Thanks for the update Max.


Max2
"Australian researchers are hoping to develop a world-first hormone-based pesticide, safe for honey bees but fatal to varroa mite, and another destructive pest, the small hive beetle."



Max this report is also very interesting. Please keep us updated as this research moves along.

Thanks,

Phillip

Hi Max,
Do you, (or perhaps someone here), know if this study is gaining ground toward success?

Thanks,

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on December 22, 2022, 12:28:04 am
Latest Update I have found.

Phillip

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on December 23, 2022, 07:53:10 am
Every place tries eradication.  It has never worked...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 06, 2023, 07:29:49 am
Does anyone have new information or updates? I have been patiently seeking new updates and don't know what is happening with the once clear and reliable, open informational updates from NSW. The last report available from NSW Department of Primary Industries was December 19, 2022. No updates from them on this official Government site, since.... This is very disappointing as I have been keeping up with the results of findings very closely through this Official Government Site.

As reported Dec 19 there was new infestation found and made know. Again, not a word or update since from this once reliable source on information which 'was' faithful in providing updated information...

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 07, 2023, 12:45:26 am
Hi Phillip,

there has been no up-date since the 19. December - as you say.

I used to get up-dates every Friday but not recently.
I just hope they have not gone on Holidays - it is peak Holiday season here in Australia. Varroa does not take a break.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 12, 2023, 04:04:23 am
109 cases

I have writen to Biosecurity and this seems to be latest up-date

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/about-us/media-centre/releases/2022/general/surveillance-confirms-additional-infested-premises-within-eradication-zone
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 12, 2023, 06:15:58 am
Sorry Max. But thanks for the update.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 12, 2023, 05:14:33 pm
Hi Phillip,

It looks like the energy has left the Biosecurity team.
We used to receive weekly up-dates.

This is far from over.
A lot of people are upset and angry.
People have lost their income, their hobby and many are too old to start again after the required help.
I have not come across one beekeeper who is thinking about expanding but many who are selling hives.

Nuc sales have not been bad this season but slightly down on last year.

The cost of queens has gone up a lot. I used to buy queens form NSW, the state most affected by the Varroa outbreak. This is not possible now.

The return on honey should increase.

all the best
max
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 12, 2023, 10:44:37 pm
Hi Max,

Thank you for your report. Do you know if any of the new findings have been 'outside' of the danger zone and eradication areas? Hopefully not..  It is understandable that folks are disappointed. We (beekeepers) knew, going into this that it would be a tough row to hoe, a hard enemy to defeat, because 'ever single' Varroa Destructor 'has' to be eradicated for the outcome to be a successful venture. IF the new findings are within the danger zones listed by the officials there may still be a decent chance of success.

I am still 'hoping for the best' results for you and your countrymen who are associated with the Honeybee in any avenue. Each and everyone of you deserve tons of credit for your efforts and sacrifice while you continue working 'together' to contain and eliminate this pest. I feel sure every beekeeper 'knows' and 'knew', the uphill climb and 'stiff odds'; yet with unselfishness and willingness to offer what was needed when the program of ridding this pest was first put forth and set into motion. Win or Lose this battle, you and your fellow countrymen can hold your heads high knowing you "each" are doing the very best you can in this fight.... As you said the 'War' is not over.

 
PS
I hope the following thinking is never needed, but Just in-case the battle doesn't go as hoped, perhaps beekeepers from all over the world can unite for you and yours by stepping up and 'donate' to your cause by shipping stock to your country. FREE

If individual beekeepers from all over would co-op by coordination, (if only one hive each),  of certified heathy bees shipped by the airplane load to your country to be distributed according to each beekeepers loss, wouldn't that be grand!

I am thinking if the need were to arise, with the right people involved, perhaps companies such as Fed-ex, UPS, and DHL etc. might also donate by giving free shipping of this cargo throughout different areas of your country. Or where needed

You would need a fluent spokesperson to coordinate this effort and a good team to help the endeavor become a reality. I personally think it CAN be done if it comes down to it. Lets continue to be hopeful it does not, but either way, lets continue to be hopeful. I am still 'cheering' for you.
Wishing each of you in Australia the very best, especially the good beekeepers who have sacrificed and lost so much!

Sincerely,

Phillip





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on January 13, 2023, 07:22:26 am
Where would you get Varroa free stock to ship?
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on January 13, 2023, 08:47:50 am
And almost every hive has a few mites that would go undetected.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 13, 2023, 09:53:12 am
Where would you get Varroa free stock to ship?

Please read the entire post carefully in reply 234. Varroa free was never suggested to be shipped, certified heathy bees were. (just as certified healthy bees should only be shipped here, past the bounds of state to state in my opinion)
And this extreme suggestion 'is if and only if', the war is lost in Australia against varroa.  Therefore the effort to help the beekeepers in that country who have put up such a gallant fight in their effort to eradicate Varroa Destructor. Yet lost so much and as per Max description, many are in total despair.  But as Max also said and I will say again, The war is not over and the flag of surrender has not been waved. But as General Lee said. "The situation is not favorable."

Is it not wise to have a good plan in place if the first one does not work out? (The eradication of Varroa Destructor in Australia)

If so I have no doubt that you both would be among the many willing to help with such an endeavor, at least by donating bees?
(That is if the people of Australia would accept the good will after giving it careful thought)

Thanks,

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 13, 2023, 05:11:34 pm
Hi Philip,

I understand that Australia has permitted the importation of some selected queens from " varroa resistant or tolerant" stock.
I don't know the details.

At this stage the focus is syill on eradication.

A considerable amount of money has been made availbel to compensate beekeeprs who had to destroy hives - professional and backyarders.

At this point there are one EPI center and two other areas which have been affected.

Movement of bees is stricly controlled.

As Michael and others have pointed out, erradication has not worked in other countries.

We live in hope and prepare for the worst.
Your concern is appreaciated

max
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on January 13, 2023, 10:14:03 pm
Where would you get Varroa free stock to ship?

Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania, Queensland, Northern Territory, Canberra, Victoria?
Kangaroo Island (SA) and Rottnest Island(WA) supposedly have some of the purest strains on the planet although KI is still recovering after the fires a few years ago.
Ships not required. :happy:
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 16, 2023, 01:28:19 am
Skeggley
"Ships not required. :happy:"

Nor needed in that case. ✔️   :grin:
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 20, 2023, 12:45:54 am
I hope you can open this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-20/nsw-beekeepers-welcome-varroa-mite-border-reopening/101875634

It makes me a little nervous...

I had an e-mail from a woman in the red zone.
She has a feral hive in her house...reported it...and nothing has been done.
I suggested that she contact the local Ag Department so that they can take care of this hive. I hope it is varroa free, has not swarmed...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 20, 2023, 04:21:24 am
This seems to be the most recent update:
https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2010012023.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on January 24, 2023, 10:02:51 am
Too soon to open borders?
https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/31246588
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 24, 2023, 09:51:45 pm
Too soon to open borders?
https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/31246588

Interesting eye opening article Skeggley. Worth taking note of.. Thanks for posting.

Phillip

This seems to be the most recent update:
https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2010012023.pdf

Thanks for the latest update Max which was dated 10th, January 2023. The source that I have been going to has not been updated since December 19, 2022 NSW Department of Primary Industeries

Phillip



Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 25, 2023, 02:54:50 am
Todays( for you " tomorrow's) press release:

https://app4.vision6.com.au/v/10433/1793908583/email.html?k=Y9GoSnSP-2Wq1dwVqrM3VvnRSCZ0g3hT1kxsRb2oFZ0
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on January 25, 2023, 04:19:29 am
How do they deal (or trace) beekeepers who do not register as a biosecurity entity?
In the UK we are encouraged to register our apiary sites but there is no legal requirement to do so. Hence many beekeepers remain unknown to DEFRA (our environment agency) estimates put this at around a 1/3 rd of all hobbyists.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on January 25, 2023, 04:54:04 am
Same issue here Nigel. Once movement of hives takes place, any chance of controlling the spread of Varroa is lost. It just takes one mistake, one poor judgement, one sneaky action, one piece of apathy or one act of dishonesty and the game is over. Gee I would love to be wrong, BUT??.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on January 25, 2023, 06:32:17 am
I'm sure none of the wild bees are registered with biosecurity...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 25, 2023, 07:00:32 am
I understand your concerns and in my opinion your concerns are legitimate. I can not speak as an Australian because I am an American and live thousands of miles away, and truthfully to put and bluntly, it is not my business.  But I can speak as a fellow beekeeper and a member of an International Beekeeping Forum where we are fellow members and share information about beekeeping and the Honeybee, (while noting my opinions are my on).

If we look back here on this simple forum topic, which we have been keeping up with the situation pretty closely going by the official reports. There was a period of months where no varroa mites were detected. Then all of sudden though few, 'boom', new detections. As far as we know, the last one was in December, but there again the reports have been few and non consistent with the lack of previous daily updates, as was the case before those new outbreaks. The public was left in the dark so to speak.

Noting these facts, risky is 'one word' that comes to mind. Of course the decision makers are the experts, or they are relying on information from the experts.  I hope they are right on this. I can only scratch my head in wonder as to how they can declare NSW free of Varroa Destructor, so soon after the last disappointing detections just a month ago.
It is further my opinion the length of time needed before making this decision should be no less than the time frame of previous periods of no detections, until the last detections.

You Australians have every right to say shut up and mind your business and if you do I will not take offense as I mean no harm or offense. I simply would like to see you win this battle and know there is a Continent that is truly varroa free, even if my Country will most likely never be varroa free again.. This post is just in my thoughts and opinions from what little we do know. I do not know enough to even 'help' make the decisions the officials are making, even if I lived in your country as was a citizen there, nor do I know enough to even criticize. I can only wonder.   

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 25, 2023, 07:12:01 am
I'm sure none of the wild bees are registered with biosecurity...

Point well taken and I will add, as far as we know the last detections might have came from the transfer of Varroa from wild bees to beekeepers hives?.. After all,  months went by without detections? Your statement stands to reason this possibility could be the case.

Phillip





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 27, 2023, 01:00:12 am
The next phase...and I'm worried.
Hope this will end well..

Dear Max,

As a follow on from our most recent varroa mite update, I am writing to our members to advise of changes to the Queensland border and subsequent movement of livestock (queens and hives).

For members that may have missed our last communication, the NSW DPI made a declaration of freedom from varroa mite in the General Emergency Zone (or blue zone as it is more commonly known to industry). This declaration was agreed to by state jurisdictions. The declaration has now enacted a staged re-opening of borders allowing the movement of hives and queens under a strict permit and compliance system.

If you may have missed this announcement, please click here to read the update from AHBIC.

We are pleased to advise that representatives from DAF will be prioritising permits for our stranded industry colleagues in the first instance. Prioritisation of these beekeepers will enable almost 4,000 stranded hives with a pathway to enter their state of origin. Entry permits will also alleviate significant emotional and operational fatigue, as well as financial burden from our friends who have been in limbo since the detection of the mite in New South Wales.

As we enter the next phase in the response to varroa we remind our members that if you are considering any movements across the Queensland border with New South Wales you will need to comply with permit arrangements and conditions in both NSW and QLD.

Moving bees into Queensland can only be undertaken if you have applied for and received an approved permit from Biosecurity Queensland.

Please find below communication from Biosecurity Queensland in relation to the staged re-opening of Queensland borders under the new permit system.

Varroa mite ? moving hives into Queensland

NSW General Emergency Zone declared free from varroa mite

Beekeepers can now apply for a permit to move European honey bees and other related materials into Queensland from the NSW General Emergency Zone (GEZ) after this zone was declared free of varroa mite (Varroa destructor).

A permit is required for anyone bringing bees, hives, used beekeeping equipment or bee products (including unprocessed honey), into any part of Queensland from any state or territory. All permits will be subject to strict permit conditions and active compliance checks.

Permit applications from Queensland registered beekeepers located in the NSW General Zone (Blue zone) will be prioritised and a dedicated case manager will be assigned to manage the process.

In the coming weeks, owners of non-Queensland registered hives will also be able to apply for a permit to enter.

You can apply online for a biosecurity instrument permit or by calling the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries Customer Service Centre on 13 25 23.

Check hives and report results

All beekeepers are encouraged to check their hives and report results to the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries, using the Bee 123 online form, or by calling 13 25 23.

Report any checks you have made on your hives, even if you do not find any suspect mites. The data gathered from checking hives will help us to understand the health of bee hives in Queensland.

Register as a biosecurity entity

If you own or keep at least one hive, you must register as a biosecurity entity. Registration is free for non-commercial beekeepers.

Registration helps contact owners, keeping you informed if there?s an animal disease emergency. That?s why it?s important to make sure you?re registered if you meet the requirements.

On a final note, since the initiation of the response to the detection of varroa, the QBA have provided consultation to DAF and Biosecurity Queensland on most aspects of the response.



We have advocated for the establishment of strong measures to protect the state from the mite in addition to practical management strategies to support Queensland beekeepers through the most significant threat to modern day Australian beekeeping.

Should you have any questions about this announcement or require support in applying for a permit, please contact me via email (statesecretary@qbabees.org.au).

Kind regards,

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on January 27, 2023, 07:27:18 am
"The next phase...and I'm worried.
Hope this will end well.."


Understandably so.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on February 08, 2023, 09:38:45 am
Any Updates Max? Anyone?
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on February 13, 2023, 11:34:37 pm
A bit of not so good news..




Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on February 19, 2023, 07:02:11 am


I'm nor sure I understand the explanation given as to the cause of the two new finds. What would be gained by a beekeeper to move their infested hives 'into' an eradication zone? And if they were moved 'into' an eradication zone, where did they move these 'infested hives' from? Wouldn't that be an important question needing answers?
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on February 19, 2023, 03:25:20 pm
Hi Phillip,

Looks like someone has illegally moved some hives from a red area to another area. This is another reason why the spread of varroa is going to be difficult to stop. Either an honest mistake or a deliberate action to save hives from destruction are the only two reasons I can think of. The consequences of this action could be devastating for both the country and the beekeeper involved. This is another sad day.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on March 11, 2023, 03:34:15 am
Hi Phillip,

Looks like someone has illegally moved some hives from a red area to another area. This is another reason why the spread of varroa is going to be difficult to stop. Either an honest mistake or a deliberate action to save hives from destruction are the only two reasons I can think of. The consequences of this action could be devastating for both the country and the beekeeper involved. This is another sad day.

Thanks Les, I agree this is sad. The last report that I found on the official website has not been updated, (at this time).. February 19 was the last updated report.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on March 11, 2023, 04:08:25 am
https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2023022023.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on March 11, 2023, 09:40:40 am
Thanks Max. Hopefully no news since the Week ending 23rd February is good news.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on March 12, 2023, 02:29:24 pm
Not an update but useful information.

https://www.outbreak.gov.au/current-responses-to-outbreaks/varroa-mite



Varroa mite (Varroa destructor)
Pest situation

On 8 July 2022 an industry agreed Response Plan was initiated, with the intent to eradicate varroa mite and minimise the impact on businesses, communities, ancillary industries and the environment.

Varroa destructor (varroa mite). Source: NSW DPI
Varroa destructor (varroa mite). Source: NSW DPI
On 1 February 2023, 112 premises in NSW reported bees infested with varroa mite. The location of these premises range from Newcastle up to the Hunter Valley region, one property in north-west NSW and one on the north coast near Coffs Harbour.

Additional detections may occur in the red and purple zones due to increased surveillance, and links to known infestations are currently being investigated. If an infested hive is detected outside of an existing zone and not linked to the movement of an infested hive, this will trigger a review of the Response Plan.



The NSW Department of Primary Industries has euthanised more than 17,000 hives as part of this important eradication program. Bees in infested hives are being humanely euthanised to prevent the spread of varroa mite. Managed hives are being prioritised for inspection.

NSW DPI publishes regular updates on the response to varroa mite which are available at:

NSW DPI ? Varroa mite emergency response



Wild European honeybees (WEHB)
Surveillance and eradication of known WEHB colonies is also occurring with more than 600 reported to date. The public are encouraged to report WEHB to the NSW DPI for investigation.

NSW movement restrictions
The emergency zoning has been revised with 3 zones now in place. Different restrictions apply depending on where honeybees and hives are in NSW. The zones include:

            1. 10 km (red) eradication zone
            2. 25 km (purple) surveillance zone
            3. general (blue) emergency zone, which covers all of NSW.
On 20 January 2023, all states and territories agreed that the NSW General Emergency Zone, or blue zone, based on negative surveillance data, is declared free of varroa mite. This meets World Organisation for Animal Health requirements for Proof of Freedom.

The agreement is a step towards enabling blue zone beekeepers to resume business and apply for permits to move managed hives across state borders.

Beekeepers in the eradication and surveillance zones are not permitted to move hives into or out of their respective zones. However, beekeepers in these zones are permitted to work their hives for surveillance purposes or to prevent swarming and to add a permitted bee feeder to their hive.

Surveillance zone beekeepers are permitted to import a queen bee and escorts into the zone.

Registered commercial beekeepers within the general biosecurity zone (blue zone) are still required to complete a Hive Movement Declaration to move honeybees and hives, to allow for their business continuity and to provide pollination services. There are explicit requirements on beekeepers before moving, which are detailed on the NSW DPI website.

All beekeepers within the eradication and surveillance zones must report their hives by filling out the online form at dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa. Alternatively, beekeepers can call the Exotic Plant Pest Hotline on 1800 084 881 to speak to someone at NSW DPI. The order is being enforced by NSW Police.

More detail on requirements for beekeepers across NSW can be found at the NSW DPI website.

All people who have acquired honeybees (including queen bees, nucleus hives and hives with honeybees) from within the 50km of infested premises at the Port of Newcastle in the last 12 months are being urged to play their part by reporting them to help ensure business continuity for the bee industry.

Restrictions in other states
Other jurisdictions have put in place restrictions on the entry of bees, bee hives, bee keeping equipment, and bee products from NSW.

Use the links below to find out more on state/territory restrictions.

Queensland
Victoria
Tasmania
South Australia
Australian Capital Territory
Western Australia

Advice for beekeepers

All beekeepers, regardless of their location in Australia need to inspect their hives regularly for signs of varroa mite and other exotic pests. If you suspect your bees may have varroa mite or another exotic pest, phone the Exotic Plant Pest Hotline on 1800 084 881. This will put you in touch with your state or territory?s biosecurity agency.

Checking bees for varroa mite



Image of a bee with varroa destructor mite
There are a variety of detection methods that beekeepers can use to inspect their hives for varroa mite, including:

sugar shaking
alcohol washing
alcohol washing
colony examination
sticky mat examination.

Resources and videos

beeaware.org.au for useful resources including fact sheets and videos.
Alcohol wash video ? Tocal College, NSW
How to sugar shake bees video ? NSW DPI
Biosecurity Manual for Beekeepers (farmbiosecurity.com.au) (PDF)

Port workers and the shipping industry

If you work at or transport goods from a port, you must report any sighting of bees attached to sea containers, vessels or imported goods. Exotic bees are the pathway for varroa mite so they must be reported to the Australian Government Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry. You can do this online at agriculture.gov.au/report or phone the See. Secure. Report hotline on 1800 798 636.

Do not move the goods or container and do not spray the swarm as this creates the risk of dispersal.

About varroa mite

Varroa destructor is a distinctive-looking small mite, around 1mm in diameter, and is a parasite of the European honey bee (Apis mellifera) and the Asian honey bee (Apis cerana). Mites are easily identifiable to the naked eye and are a reddish-brown colour. European honey bees infested with varroa are likely to die within 3 to 4 years if left untreated.

This parasite is the most serious global pest of honey bees. Drone bees can move varroa mites from hive to hive and even between apiaries. Mites are agile, move into hives quickly and transfer through bee-to-bee contact. There are strict quarantine requirements in place to protect the Australian honeybee industry. It is estimated that establishment of varroa mite in Australia could result in losses of over $70 million a year.

Impacts on our crops
Varroa destructor attacks European honey bees and is considered the greatest threat to Australia's honey and honey bee pollination plant industries. If varroa mite were to establish in Australia, European honey bees and the pollination services provided could be reduced by 90-100 per cent.

This would result in:

restrictions on the movement of hives to limit its spread ? which could reduce the availability of hives in some regions.
a significant impact for apiarists, who would face higher costs to manage their hives.
impacts on producers who grow crops such as almonds, apples, blueberries, and cherries ? all of which rely on pollination from European honey bees.
Varroa destructor is a Category 3 Emergency Plant Pest (EPP) under Schedule 13 of the Emergency Plant Pest Response Deed (EPPRD). Internal and external mites of bees are listed as #10 in the Top 42 National Priority Plant Pests.

Previous varroa detections
In 2018, Varroa destructor was detected in Victoria in a swarm of European honey bee arriving on cargo. The bees were reported by the arriving vessel. The department responded with assistance from the Victorian Government and the swarm was eliminated.

Varroa jacobsoni were detected on exotic Asian honey bee in Townsville in 2016, 2019 and 2020. These were eradicated under the nationally cost shared National Varroa Mite Eradication Program. Proof of Freedom from V. jacobsoni was declared in 2021.

Government response
The national Consultative Committee on Emergency Plant Pests (CCEPP) first met in June to discuss the detection and response actions and continues to meet regularly. Despite the increase in detections, CCEPP remains satisfied that eradication of Varroa destructor remains technically feasible.

On 8 July 2022, the National Management Group (NMG) agreed to the CCEPP?s recommendation that it is technically feasible and cost beneficial to eradicate Varroa destructor. NMG has endorsed a phase 1 Response Plan which covers up to $45 million for the first 100 days of response activities. This cost is shared between the Australian, state and territory governments, and affected industry parties under the Emergency Plant Pest Response Deed. A revised version of the Response Plan is currently being drafted by NSW DPI for consideration by the CCEPP and NMG.

About CCEPP
The CCEPP is chaired by Australia?s Chief Plant Protection Officer and comprises Chief Plant Health Managers from each jurisdiction and specialists from Plant Health Australia and affected industries listed under the deed.

For this incident, we are working closely with the Australian Honey Bee Industry Council and a number of pollination-reliant industries including:

Almond Board of Australia
Apple and Pear Australia
Australian Lychee Growers Association
Australian Macadamia Society
Australian Mango Industry Association
Australian Melon Association
AUSVEG
Avocados Australia
Canned Fruit Industry Council of Australia
Cherry Growers of Australia
Grain Producers Australia
Passionfruit Australia
Raspberries and Blackberries Australia
Strawberries Australia
Summerfruit Australia.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on March 12, 2023, 02:35:10 pm
NOTE: In addition to the interesting picture above of the mite on the bee, the majority of mites will be found 'beneath' the bee, between the platelets of the bees structure and 'very' hard to detect. In fact from my studies, most of the mites will be found on the underside.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on March 13, 2023, 05:38:00 pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-14/new-varroa-mite-cases-detected-hunter-central-coast-regions-nsw/102091326
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on March 28, 2023, 02:28:39 pm
I just checked for the latest update on the NSW Official Website and found this. "Ahead of the NSW state election on 25 March 2023, the NSW Government caretaker period has commenced. Limited updates will be made to this website during this period."

Maybe the updates will proceed soon..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on April 03, 2023, 03:21:54 am
April 3, 2023 and still no update on 'current circumstances' from the official NSW site. Wonder,,,;  What is going on here? The elections are over? (which by the way should not have had any varying of the critical circumstances and situation of Varroa Destructor in the first place?) Without knowing specifics, one can only scratch ones head in utter confound-meant, which can lead to direct confusion! Lets get on it NSW, you have been doing a good Job! This is not the time for loly-gagging or side stepping information.. (if that may be the case?)

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on April 05, 2023, 11:43:42 am
Still no update that I could find on the NSW official site.  I am adding the first infection map that I posted here from that site some time ago, and the most recent for comparison.



 
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on May 10, 2023, 03:29:48 am
- Infested premises (IPs) remain steady at 153, with no new IPs since last week. Stay vigilant ? know your alcohol washing requirements and understand what hive movement restrictions apply to your emergency zone. Find out more at www.nsw.dpi.gov.au/varroa 
- Surveillance continues across the Surveillance Emergency (purple) Zone, using a combination of sticky mats used in conjunction with miticide strips. This is a highly effective varroa mite detection and a balanced approach to reduce the impact on hives during surveillance, and to provide a suitable level of confidence that hives are free of Varroa mite. Find out more about surveillance on our FAQs page Varroa frequently asked questions https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/.../varroa-frequently-asked...
- Want to know more about the wild European Honey Bee Management Program? This program is a vital part of the Varroa mite Response as there is a risk that Varroa mite could spread through wild European honey bee populations. Get the facts at Wild European Honey Bee Management Program https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/.../wild-european-honey-bee...
- Seen a swarm of European Honey Bees and wondering what you need to do? Know what you can and can?t do with swarms according to what emergency zone you are in. Find out more on our website  How to deal with a swarm https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/.../how-to-deal-with-a-swarm
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on May 11, 2023, 06:44:17 am
Hi Max, Something went wrong with the NSW websites. When I clicked on each I got Error 404 Page Not Found.

Phillip



 
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on May 13, 2023, 09:49:46 pm
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/emergencies/biosecurity/current-situation/varroa-mite-emergency-response?utm_source=sendinblue&utm_campaign=May%2023&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on May 13, 2023, 10:36:06 pm
Thanks Max, the site you posted has been my 'go to site'. So far no updates in some time (that I have noticed...) 

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on May 15, 2023, 04:10:58 am
After 'digging' for more information, I finally found this Map from another source. Unfortunately it seems the mite is moving in spite of 'all' efforts to stop it. Comparing to all earlier maps.


Phillip

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on May 19, 2023, 04:17:59 am
156
https://honeybee.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/AHBIC-Varroa-incursion-update-27.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 13, 2023, 06:54:48 am
Good report Max. Any new updates? None that I could find..
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 13, 2023, 07:57:59 am
I wish I knew.
I spoke to one beekeeper who told me that they had not found a single mite in a wild hive.
If this is true, it could be possible to get this thing under control.
We are in winter here. No swarming.
As long as no idiot is illegally shifting hives....we could be lucky.
There is a lot going on in NSW...some people want to ban all movemnet for now and some people want to move hives for pollination.
I do hope that decisions are made based  on the science not on the short term economy.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 14, 2023, 07:06:04 pm
An interesting overview
https://phys.org/news/2023-05-opinion-australia-unique-position-bee-killing.html
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 20, 2023, 02:20:51 am
It's good to be optimistic as in the previous post. The reality of the spread is seen below comparing maps. The first link address shows the first map posted here, indicating the presence of Varroa Destructor as compared the the most recent map that I could find, showing Varroas' increased spread and presence.  (In spite of the many hives eradicated).


https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=55456.msg507078#msg507078
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=55456.msg517048#msg517048
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 20, 2023, 04:14:26 am
The map has not changed:
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/emergencies/biosecurity/current-situation/varroa-mite-emergency-response

The two areas outside the main area have been explained in the past. You do hear some rumours...

We are in winter and it is very unlikely that there will be any swarms.

In my area we have broood all year round but in the main area affected i would expect that most of the hives are broodless for a couple of months.
This is definitely a positive
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 20, 2023, 04:19:00 am
Here is the weather for the main varroa location:
http://www.bom.gov.au/places/nsw/newcastle/

This is in C not F.

Pretty wintery and we have to remember that the weather station is on the beach.
I try to find other data a little inland
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 20, 2023, 04:23:48 am
This is for Maitland - not far inland from Newcastle - in F -: The cool season lasts for 3.3 months, from May 28 to September 7, with an average daily high temperature below 60?F. The coldest month of the year in Maitland is July, with an average low of 46?F and high of 56?F.

I'm not sure but i doubt that there would be any brood in hives ?

No brood, the survival of varroa would be more difficult.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on June 20, 2023, 08:24:13 am
No brood, they migrate to the bees  and feed on the bees fat bodies.
Here in UK hives  can go three or four months without brood....has little affect on varroa.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 20, 2023, 08:36:11 am
The map has not changed:
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/emergencies/biosecurity/current-situation/varroa-mite-emergency-response

The two areas outside the main area have been explained in the past. You do hear some rumours...

We are in winter and it is very unlikely that there will be any swarms.

In my area we have broood all year round but in the main area affected i would expect that most of the hives are broodless for a couple of months.
This is definitely a positive


Unfortunately on this Official Site the map has not changed, on another sites it has. See the map on reply #270. Look closely at 'Sydney', the placement and the shape of the red (cloud in comparison to the outdated map that the Official Site which continues to show no change.  The newer map shows it is descending and much closer to Sydney...  Not only that, look closely at the original map posted here some time ago as this was unfolding, and again on reply #265.. I do not see the spread of varroa doing anything but increasing... Even though I am still optimistic, I can not deny the reality of what I am seeing, while I question the lack of updates on the Official Site... (Which 'use' to be a regular occurance.)
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 12, 2023, 10:02:47 pm
https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/31739839?cs_tk=AtMi9KsqS_mJIfhouGQAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvEVXWGKFxBKRy8QFiJYK2QU%3D&utm_campaign=13daf04b634e4cf5b0c92c448cdededc&utm_content=initial_v0_6_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 12, 2023, 10:46:33 pm
Thank you for the report Skeggley...

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 13, 2023, 09:51:36 pm
" very concerning"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/varroa-mite-detected-central-west-nsw-beehives/102601108
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 13, 2023, 10:41:29 pm
Official update with map
https://honeybee.org.au/ahbic-industry-update-32-386-days-of-response/
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 19, 2023, 02:52:31 am
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-07-19/more-than-30-million-announced-to-tackle-varroa-mite/102618362
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 30, 2023, 07:26:22 pm
In the news today:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-31/beekeepers-nsw-hunter-question-success-varroa-mite-response/102659386
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 02, 2023, 09:07:53 am
"Beekeepers question success of varroa mite eradication response as parasite continues to spread"https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-31/beekeepers-nsw-hunter-question-success-varroa-mite-response/102659386

Take a look at the Map featured in Max2' reply#16 back in June of 2022, and now the Map in the article above; Just a year later in spite of the gallant fight in the effort to stop this dread..

I wish Australia the best of luck.  But eradication has been tried everywhere Varroa showed up and it has never worked.  It only takes one Varroa to spread eventually to everywhere.  They don't even need two...



Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 21, 2023, 06:39:24 pm
With Varooa spreading to yet another new site i wonder if the game is lost?

kempsey is a major beekeeping center and I read that some people have moved hives from there to the Almonds....
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 21, 2023, 11:52:40 pm
With Varooa spreading to yet another new site i wonder if the game is lost?

kempsey is a major beekeeping center and I read that some people have moved hives from there to the Almonds....

Not looking hopeful Max. We knew it would be a hard fight, but you Australians have put up a good one!

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 22, 2023, 12:12:59 am
Latest map updated August 18, 2023

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 29, 2023, 07:44:05 am
https://honeybee.org.au/ahbic-industry-update-42-432-days-of-response/
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 29, 2023, 09:02:29 am
The latest Varroa Infestation Map:

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Beelab on August 30, 2023, 02:34:53 am
We in Australia are still hoping for plan A to work.
As they say, we have ONE go at this. There is no second.
Fingers crossed for all Aussie beekeepers.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 06, 2023, 12:17:49 am
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-09-06/varroa-mite-infested-premises-nsw-reach-250/102819416
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 06, 2023, 12:19:10 am
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-09-06/beekeepers-fear-wa-not-ready-for-varroa-mite-outbreak/102815442
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 06, 2023, 10:12:42 am
Latest map..

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on September 07, 2023, 06:11:08 am
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-09-06/beekeepers-fear-wa-not-ready-for-varroa-mite-outbreak/102815442

No we're not, we're not even ready for SHB.

Pretty sure commercial beeks have thwarted the eradication of what I suspect they started and have heard QLD bees in Vic are returning for pollenation so management sadly appears to be the way forward.
Here in the west when bees are transported north they cannot return due to SHB and this has kept the SW free and this is because the Ag Dept wears the pants and have their priorities correct.(In this instance anyway.)
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 08, 2023, 11:07:51 am
Skeggley that is interesting. There are not many places that can say are 'both' Varroa Destructor and Small Hive Beetle free. Must be nice...  :grin:
Last I heard The Isle of Man is still Varroa free, I don't know if they have SHB

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on September 08, 2023, 01:50:04 pm
They don't....nowhere in UK has SHB...currently.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 09, 2023, 09:22:47 pm
They don't....nowhere in UK has SHB...currently.

Thumbs Up Nigel. I am glad to hear this..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 10, 2023, 11:59:44 pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-11/varroa-mite-new-risk-based-approach-to-hive-euthanasia-adopted/102835422
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 11, 2023, 01:37:45 am
"The Bush Beeman" had a few things to say about Varroa Destructor a day or two ago. I would have liked to posted the clip here, but due to language I had to restrain from it. 

Phillip







Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 18, 2023, 05:00:14 am
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-09-18/honey-bee-industry-for-varroa-mite-management-not-eradication/102869722
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Biggles on September 20, 2023, 05:39:37 am
So here we are.  Eradication negated by commercial interests.  Management now means no more compensation for those affected.  We have to suck it up.  Will there be an enquiry into all of this?  Probably not, as those responsible justify their run for cover.  As usual, unlike Allan Joyce of Qantas, those responsible for the failure will have their responses already written. Not me! blame something or some-one else.   Now, what of the fire ant?  More of the same methinks.  An  indictment of government and their servants.  To all beekeepers,I am sorry for your loss.  A sad representation on the incapacity of statutory authorities.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Biggles on September 20, 2023, 05:50:32 am
I did forget.  A big shout out to all the volunteers who have assisted in good faith.  Only to be dishonoured by authorities and the commercial dollar.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 20, 2023, 06:01:01 am
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/emergencies/biosecurity/current-situation/varroa-mite-emergency-response


NSW
Department of
Primary Industries

Varroa mite emergency response


ALERT
As of 19 September 2023, the National Management Group (NMG) as peak decision body for the National Varroa mite Emergency Response have reached a decision to shift the focus of the response from eradication to transitioning to management of Varroa Mite.

This transition to the new focus will take time and we will continue to update the information on these pages as the plan progresses. A new Varroa mite Emergency Order is in place.

We value the sacrifice of every beekeeper and thank everyone for their cooperation during the Varroa mite response and this evolving situation.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 20, 2023, 06:09:29 am
New Map

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 20, 2023, 10:57:06 am
I noticed in the new map above as compared to the most recent map, posted in reply 296 a week ago, showing scattered outbreaks in several wide areas of NSW, none of the newer areas are shown to be in the 'management areas' but are hidden, or blended into the suppression zones. What is the definition, or the difference in the attention given to the Management zones and the Suppression zones?





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 20, 2023, 06:08:51 pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-09-21/varroa-mite-management-strategy-beekeeper-cost-food-prices/102880084

I have it from a very reliable source that a pallet of Apiguard is on a flight to Australia right now..

Varroa will chage beekeeping for ever here.

I'm concerned that beekeepers with one or two FLOW hives will hardly  do their checks. The supers on FLOW hives are very heavy and the product was promoted as the easy way to get to honey.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on September 20, 2023, 08:06:03 pm
So here we are.  Eradication negated by commercial interests.  Management now means no more compensation for those affected.  We have to suck it up.  Will there be an enquiry into all of this?  Probably not, as those responsible justify their run for cover.  As usual, unlike Allan Joyce of Qantas, those responsible for the failure will have their responses already written. Not me! blame something or some-one else.   Now, what of the fire ant?  More of the same methinks.  An  indictment of government and their servants.  To all beekeepers,I am sorry for your loss.  A sad representation on the incapacity of statutory authorities.

+1
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 20, 2023, 09:46:53 pm
I did forget.  A big shout out to all the volunteers who have assisted in good faith.  Only to be dishonoured by authorities and the commercial dollar.

Indeed!
And the beekeepers who did the right thing.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on September 20, 2023, 09:54:48 pm
So here we are.  Eradication negated by commercial interests.  Management now means no more compensation for those affected.  We have to suck it up.  Will there be an enquiry into all of this?  Probably not, as those responsible justify their run for cover.  As usual, unlike Allan Joyce of Qantas, those responsible for the failure will have their responses already written. Not me! blame something or some-one else.   Now, what of the fire ant?  More of the same methinks.  An  indictment of government and their servants.  To all beekeepers,I am sorry for your loss.  A sad representation on the incapacity of statutory authorities.

As soon as I read that a few beekeepers had thousands of hives in Almonds and they had to be moved, I knew " game over".
I would not be surprised if most of the large beekeepers will swich to pollination.
Taking supers off to add strips is too much like hard work.
Using a vapouriser is probably the easiest means to control varroa id honey is not harvested.

Most of the crops here in Qld  have been pollinated by feral hives. If they are gone - a matter of a few years - pollination services will become rather profitable
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on September 21, 2023, 12:12:10 pm
So here we are.  Eradication negated by commercial interests.  Management now means no more compensation for those affected.  We have to suck it up.  Will there be an enquiry into all of this?  Probably not, as those responsible justify their run for cover.  As usual, unlike Allan Joyce of Qantas, those responsible for the failure will have their responses already written. Not me! blame something or some-one else.   Now, what of the fire ant?  More of the same methinks.  An  indictment of government and their servants.  To all beekeepers,I am sorry for your loss.  A sad representation on the incapacity of statutory authorities.

As soon as I read that a few beekeepers had thousands of hives in Almonds and they had to be moved, I knew " game over".
I would not be surprised if most of the large beekeepers will swich to pollination.
Taking supers off to add strips is too much like hard work.
Using a vapouriser is probably the easiest means to control varroa id honey is not harvested.

Most of the crops here in Qld  have been pollinated by feral hives. If they are gone - a matter of a few years - pollination services will become rather profitable

Unfortunately we have been dealing with Varroa Destructor here in America for quite some time now. There is some VERY GOOD information here at Beemaster on the subject, which covers 'every aspect of Varroa' in one fashion or another, by top beekeepers. Great discussions along with quotes, links, and videos etc., which are invaluable shared knowledge in my opinion... Check out the archives for more..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 09, 2023, 12:27:42 am
" Exodus"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-10-09/prediction-varroa-mite-could-lead-to-exodus-of-amateur-beekeeper/102905442
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on October 09, 2023, 01:19:41 am
Thanks for the report Max. I am sorry to hear of the many folks hanging up their Veils. Varroa is a pest but not the end of beekeeping. The Small HIve Beetle is moreso a pest to me personally, in my location. It may take more effort to keep hives healthy but there are good organic methods of helping our bees win in this fight for those who do not like the idea of using flat out chemicals..  Oxlic comes to mind as well as formic, both organic.

It will take the effort of 'education', but not so complicated in my opinion... May I encourage you all to keep the smile, keep the smoker lit, and keep collecting that honey!!

Phillip

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on October 09, 2023, 06:15:28 am
My number one is pesticides.  Number two is SHB.  Number three is winter.  Varroa are not on my radar.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 09, 2023, 07:55:17 am
You get snow, Michael!!
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on October 09, 2023, 08:44:07 am
Snow is spring and fall and winter.  Snow is no problem at all.  Winter is -27 F (-33 C) or in Western Nebraska -40 (F and C).
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on October 09, 2023, 09:31:05 am
Mr Bush has been successful in keeping bees without treatment for years for this I applaud him. So has cao which I also applaud while recognizing many more have not realized this success and the reasons are wide, long, and also debatable...  I really hope this topic "Varroa detected in Australia" does not turn into a treatment vs non treatment debate. There are good points made for both sides of the equation; While recognizing good wholesome discussion is a win for all... I am posting a link from Beemaster, started by "Salvo" just this past June, where we had such; a respectful 4 page discussion of Varroa packed with information, facts as well as  theories concerning varroa in treating, non-treating, heavy hitters in beekeeping, different approaches and strategies concerning Varroa Destructor, links to top researchers for dealing with varroa by treatment, links concerning varroa by the quest and ongoing search for a 'truly varroa resistant bee' as well, and more... It is my hope that the information posted in "Beemaster Forums" in the following link 'one of many' will be of aid to our friends in Australia...

https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=56499.msg517304#msg517304
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on October 09, 2023, 06:37:52 pm
At the moment in New South Wales, there is a requirement to test for varroa and report findings every 16 weeks. As the spread of this pest continues, I?m sure that there will be other requirements developed and modified over time. Every state in the country will probably approach this problem in their own way and we may end up with a variety of methods being adopted. It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. I personally want to try a treatment free approach but I am hopefully still open minded about all options available. One concern that I have is in relation to the huge number of beekeepers who keep one or two hives in their backyard. If they are not registered, they have been kept out of the loop in relation to varroa. As a registered beekeeper, I have been regularly contacted in relation to varroa, its risks, its spread etc. Anyone who is not registered can still find out information but they have to search for it. As an example, I was talking to a person last week who keeps a few hives. I asked him how he was going in relation to testing. He just looked at me and smiled. He wasn?t testing, wasn?t registered, had little knowledge of the problem and didn?t particularly care. Pretty sad really.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on October 09, 2023, 11:52:34 pm
I noticed tonight that any area colored as a mite infestation area, if clicked upon will repot how many mite detections have been found within those areas. A good way of keeping folks informed by NSW.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 12, 2023, 02:30:43 am
" No Varroa in Qld"

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGtxdWwVkJNKbNvKlNnBPqswzDx
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 16, 2023, 11:02:34 pm
One of the local beegear suppliers is now offering varroa strips. never miss a chace to make a dollar.
I have yet to read that the strips are actually approved here in OZ?

I had a look for " Bees for sale" - yes, people are getting out, selling up while they have something to sell.

I have sold very few nuc's this season and only have a few orders.
A few years ago I would have had over 100 orders and could hardly keep up. Well, i could not keep up.

Taking honey off, bottling, cleaning...there is plenty of time to think about other things...past...present ...and future.

Australia just had a referendum. I don't think it matters if you voted "yes" or " no" but it did bring to the fore the very nasty bits of our history.

All the conflicts around the planet. Israel/alestine has pushed the Russia/Ukraine war of the front page. For now.
Thank goodness for bees, cattle, gardens...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Terri Yaki on October 17, 2023, 07:51:07 am
One of the local beegear suppliers is now offering varroa strips. never miss a chace to make a dollar.
I have yet to read that the strips are actually approved here in OZ?

I had a look for " Bees for sale" - yes, people are getting out, selling up while they have something to sell.

I have sold very few nuc's this season and only have a few orders.
A few years ago I would have had over 100 orders and could hardly keep up. Well, i could not keep up.

Taking honey off, bottling, cleaning...there is plenty of time to think about other things...past...present ...and future.

Australia just had a referendum. I don't think it matters if you voted "yes" or " no" but it did bring to the fore the very nasty bits of our history.

All the conflicts around the planet. Israel/alestine has pushed the Russia/Ukraine war of the front page. For now.
Thank goodness for bees, cattle, gardens...
If the strips are available, would you not use them?
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 26, 2023, 05:50:55 pm
One side efect of the arrival of varroa in Australia is the drop in hive prices.
Googling " Hives for sale" explaind why the demand for my nuc's has dropped off so much.

I had orders cancelled and people who wanted beesd ( and i have them here ready) don't even respond to my emails...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on October 26, 2023, 06:17:37 pm
Jim wrote:Michael Bush has been keeping bees for a very long time. When varroa hit, like everyone else he started treating with all of the poison and chemicals. He then decided to let the bees figure it out.  He has not been treating his bees for, I think, over ten years now. He has done a few things to help the bees out.
He shaved his brood frames down by an eighth of an inch and puts 11 frames in a 10 foot and box. This allows each bee in the brood area to do the work of two bees. The other thing he does is use fountain less frames to allow the bees to make smaller bees to allow them to hatch out a day or two earlier. This reduces the number of mites that can mature to adulthood. Mite originally developed on apis Cerana drone brood only. Apis Cerana is a smaller bee that hatches sooner than our bees. Loosing a few drone brood is not a problem. The foundation in our hives was designed to make larger bees, to bee able to carry more nectar. Larger bees take more time to develop.
Maybe Michael will provide more information.
I think when Varroa hit Italy, may have been another country, they decided to not treat their bees. The first couple of years they lost a large percentage of their hives. Then the bees changed and survived with the mites.
Jim Altmiller
Thanks Jim,
Michael keeps bees in Nehawka, NE, so I understand.Looking at Google I can see that he has a genuine winter , even snow.I have never been to Nehawka but I have been close and it was freezing.To get an idea where my bees are, look for the climate  for Nambour, Qld, our closest weather station - no snow, no winter to speak of.To get an even better idea look for Maroochydore.We have a genuine Subtropical climate and here is the problem - we can take honey off any time of the year. Along the coast Mangroves and TeaTree flower in winter .  We are also dealing with SHB. The combination of varroa and SHB sounds fantastic - give us Africanised bees and we have the perfect storm.16C as a day time temperature is seen as cold.I can find brood any time of the year - no brood break.I'm a very, very small beekeeper with about 50 hives and increasing to about 100 during Spring /summer. We produce about 4t of honey in a decent year and about 50 nuc's for sale.Beekeeping is just one of my hobbies.Age has slowed me down..Bursitis in both shoulders, arthritic  hand, a bad back.I'm busy with other activities..a large garden, orchard, cattle, writing a gardening newsletter, Plasma donation every two weeks, volunteering in Cambodia. Not forgetting family, children and grandchildren. Bottom line is, I may be better off selling the gear and hives while I can.
Michaels method is innovative and works for him. I doubt that it would work in a warm climate with no brood break and honey all year round.Add to this that we can't store used beegear in any practical way due to the dear wax moth. His area has not been affected by climate change, our part of the world has. And many other regions: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-07/brazil-greece-turkey-us-battle-climate-related-disasters/102825092Or maybe this is more convincing: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-13/climate-scientists-issue-warning-over-antarctic-sea-ice-levels/102849334
or this:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-26/antarctic-winter-sea-ice-hits-extreme-record-low/102903614

or this:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-05/nsw-new-record-warm-summer-september/102938932
WE need to find our way through the mess which is varroa.Michael who is obviously an experienced beekeeper ( he has thousands of hits, not sure if this is a measure of expertise, Kath has heaps of visits and I don't think she keeps even a handful of bees?) has found a successful; way to keep bees - good to see.I would like to see some published data for his method: number of losses over winter, honey yield and a comparison with "normal" hives. This is the way to learn, assess and move forward.
There was an interesting article in one of the two US beekeeping magazines I subscribe to about beekeeping in Cuba. I have to find the article again as the climate is similar and I seem to remember that Cuban beekeepers  are not using chemicals.Doing my research on varroa and Googling " varroa in the subtropics" or " varroa in warm climates" - very little of use turns up.
I hope that Australia does not follow  the US example as described by Charles Linder ( in ABJ)
The value of the honey crop in the US is about $ 371million https://www.statista.com/statistics/191993/value-of-honey-production-in-the-us/The value of pollination services keeps increasing and in the last season has past $ 200/hive for Almonds. ( Bee Culture)The return for pollination services has now exceeded the value of honey. https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2018/july/driven-by-almonds-pollination-services-now-exceed-honey-as-a-source-of-beekeeper-revenue/
The value of pollination to the ag industry is huge file:///C:/Users/max/Downloads/ValueofHoneyBeesasPollinators-2000Report.pdf
In 2022, for the first time, the US has imported more food than it has exported.I wonder if this has any connection with varroa?Charles writes ( ABJ) that the honey crop as the portion of income " is typically less than 10%"
It is very likely that Australia will follow these trends - although with Coal, gas and Iron ore being some of our major exports the overall picture for exports will probably not change much.We do export crops which do need a pollinator ( Avo, Mangos and other fruits as well as dairy produce.
To summarise:- we have no brood break- some of our best flows are in winter- Wax moths are a huge issue - storage of used gear is near impossible- Chemicals used around the world are not ( yet) permitted in Australia

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on October 27, 2023, 10:14:31 am
Cuba got to where they are by not treating.  I don't know what they actually have genetically in Cuba, but all the rest of the Caribbean that I've seen is Africanized.  They are workable, not as nice as I would like, but nice enough to be workable.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on October 27, 2023, 10:23:23 am
"we can't store used beegear in any practical way due to the dear wax moth.""

There is a beekeeper in our neighboring Canada who places his beegear in a sealed refrigerated tractor trailer, runs them in sub freezing temperatures for a couple days and he is set. The trailer is sealed and no chance for wax moths to enter. Thus worry-free beegear storage.  Would this sort of setup be feasible for you Max?
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: jimineycricket on October 28, 2023, 01:32:24 pm
 Max:
         Here are a number of different ways I have seen to store your supers to avoid wax moth destruction (not used myself over a whole season).   Wax moths hate sunlight and fresh air and
most of these solutions are cheap and easy.

https://duckduckgo.com/?hps=1&q=open+air+wax+moth+control&atb=v210-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUMg07FaVDas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEsf3RP-CeI  (start viewing at about 17 minutes)


The Backyard Beekeeper, By Kim Flottum (4th Edition)
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 08, 2023, 11:43:08 pm
This was on the ABC today on varroa:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-11-09/deadly-parasite-varroa-mite-behind-predicted-feral-bee-die-off/102905408

I have written to one of the researchers.

I have not come across much relevant information in regards to beekeeping with Varroa in my situation:
- no broodbreak
- honey pretty well all year
- at an age which limits lifting

I agree that most of the feral hives will be gone. I assume beekeepers with one or two hives will be former beekeepers too. Think FLOW hives.

Most honey producing beekeepers seem to be in the cold parts of the world and get their honey from crops like canola.
Large beekeepers in warmer climates seem to focus on pollination.
There is a reason why the USA is importing more honey than you produce.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 08, 2023, 11:52:23 pm
Max:
         Here are a number of different ways I have seen to store your supers to avoid wax moth destruction (not used myself over a whole season).   Wax moths hate sunlight and fresh air and
most of these solutions are cheap and easy.

https://duckduckgo.com/?hps=1&q=open+air+wax+moth+control&atb=v210-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUMg07FaVDas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEsf3RP-CeI  (start viewing at about 17 minutes)


The Backyard Beekeeper, By Kim Flottum (4th Edition)

Sadly this will not work here.
In the past I have wrapped up lovely, drawn frames in heavy duty plastic bags ( they had lids in them) and sealed all the openings.
I place the supers with the frames in a large freezer ( we do homekills) for 48hrs to kill any eggs of wax moths.
I then store them in the coldest shed i have.
Opened the bags in spring  - hardly any wax left, just a mess.

The temp in the shed would never get to freezing - cold, yes, but obviously not cold enough.

I'm not the only one with Waxmoth problems here.

I much larger beekeeper stores his in a conatiner and uses a Phosphane ( i think it is called) bomb and he still has problems.
If you read up on this product...well, let's say, it is not what i would want to use.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 13, 2023, 12:07:46 am
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGwHfqTZShsMmNrCcJsGTNvZTlg
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on November 13, 2023, 06:36:19 am
Sealing frames does not work at all unless you do something to kill the eggs.  Freezing works.  But if you can't do that then the best is lots of light and fresh air.  The more sealed up things are the worse the wax moths are.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 13, 2023, 06:57:27 am
I did wrap AND FREEZE!
Wax moths did get in...no idea how
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 13, 2023, 07:16:40 am
Sealing frames does not work at all unless you do something to kill the eggs.  Freezing works.  But if you can't do that then the best is lots of light and fresh air.  The more sealed up things are the worse the wax moths are.
I did wrap AND FREEZE!
Wax moths did get in...no idea how

You might have 'wrapped and froze' but apparently you didn't "SEAL" as Mr Bush instructed. The wax moth needs a very small place to enter and cause destruction.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on November 13, 2023, 07:17:51 am
You have to freeze pretty cold and pretty long.  Like sub zero F and two days or more.  They don't die easily.  And the lesser wax moths can get into a very small opening...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 13, 2023, 07:19:56 am
Max see reply 328......
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Terri Yaki on November 13, 2023, 08:45:57 am
As I build up my supplies for beekeeping next year, I routed out a small freezer to help with the pesky wax moths. I expect that my neighbor and I will make good use of it. I appreciate everything that I am learning off of you guys and I am learning from your experiences.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on November 13, 2023, 08:24:26 pm
I don't always have extended freezing temperatures over the winter, and I store my equipment in a garage that is pretty well insulated, so it rarely freezes in there.  What I do for wax moths is freeze all the frames for at least 48 hours.  I then store drawn blanks in my stacked boxes with mothballs (must be paradichlorobenzene, NOT naphthelene to be safe for bees) in the stack.  Frames that have even a little bit of pollen or honey on them I store in big plastic bins, because they seem very attractive to pests of all types (wax moths, beetles, mice, etc.).  I will occasionally get a few frames that are destroyed by something, but I have never lost a whole bin or stack this way.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on November 14, 2023, 06:54:01 am
>(must be paradichlorobenzene, NOT naphthelene to be safe for bees)

Neither are good for bees or humans, but PDB is the "approved" treatment even though it is a carcinogen.  I would not use either, but for sure air them out well after using the PDB.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 19, 2023, 07:36:50 pm
A wet day, well we hope we get some decent rain. No weather for bees.

This from Lex Pryor
The problem is they die. You have probably heard this. The number of colonies in the U.S.?2.7 million?is less than half what it was at the midpoint of the 20th century, and it has remained flat since the early 2000s. Virtually every year for the past two decades, U.S. beekeepers are tasked with replacing the third or more of their stock that perish after pollinating the very crops that required the bees in the first place. It is a shell game with titanic stakes. (In other words, it?s very American.) It works how it works because we made it to
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 19, 2023, 07:41:42 pm
>(must be paradichlorobenzene, NOT naphthelene to be safe for bees)

Neither are good for bees or humans, but PDB is the "approved" treatment even though it is a carcinogen.  I would not use either, but for sure air them out well after using the PDB.
It is Pophine ( PH), Michael.
Some beekeepers here use it against Moths and also to kill hives ( rather then petrol/gasoline)
They air the boxes and frames very well and can use the gear again.
I have never used it.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 19, 2023, 07:44:11 pm
Sealing frames does not work at all unless you do something to kill the eggs.  Freezing works.  But if you can't do that then the best is lots of light and fresh air.  The more sealed up things are the worse the wax moths are.
I did wrap AND FREEZE!
Wax moths did get in...no idea how

You might have 'wrapped and froze' but apparently you didn't "SEAL" as Mr Bush instructed. The wax moth needs a very small place to enter and cause destruction.

I did freeze the bag ( minus 10C for 48 hrs), and I did seal it BUT The Southern Piercing Moth must have made a few holes.
We also have other virmin here. They seem to be able to smell honey from a country lime :angry:
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on November 19, 2023, 07:51:30 pm
Thanks Max for explaining  about the Southern Piercing Moth. We don?t deal with that type of moth here that I am aware of. Now other Vermin such as Mice can very well open the door so to speak for wax moths to enter, not counting the damage the mice themself can do.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on November 20, 2023, 12:03:11 am
Sorry, Philip, the Southern Piercing Moth was a joke.
We are in the subtropics and the number of creatures which eat your clothes, wood, was and , yes, plastic seems without limits.

Beekeeping in our climate is a bit like gardening - there is always one creature after your share of the harvest.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on December 03, 2023, 08:27:12 pm
The latest - zero for Qld...so far, so good

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2001122023.pdf

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on December 11, 2023, 12:04:07 am
Still Zero...

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2001122023.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on December 11, 2023, 01:16:07 am
Sorry, Philip, the Southern Piercing Moth was a joke.
We are in the subtropics and the number of creatures which eat your clothes, wood, was and , yes, plastic seems without limits.

Beekeeping in our climate is a bit like gardening - there is always one creature after your share of the harvest.

Max I missed this reply until now. lol. I fell for it hook, line, and sinker! 😂
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on December 11, 2023, 01:19:13 am
Still Zero...

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2001122023.pdf

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on December 14, 2023, 08:54:31 pm
The spread of varroa continues. It has been found in the western areas of Sydney. It?s like a slow moving freight train that is unstoppable. I hear quite a few rumours about people not testing their hives. If true, the spread of the pest will occur at a relatively quick rate as hive movements are still possible if you are outside the designated risk areas.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on December 19, 2023, 01:59:35 am
18. December - Zero  for Qld

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/QBA%20Varroa%20Destructor%20Update%20to%20Members%2018122023.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on December 21, 2023, 01:24:16 am
"Varroa spreading"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-12-21/varroa-mite-nsw-beekeepers-future-pest-management/103246142
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on December 21, 2023, 04:17:47 am
This summary jas just been mailed:
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1486513/DPI-Primefact-Varroa-mite-management-options_final-.pdf?&mkt_tok=NjQzLU5PRy0zMDAAAAGQKRMptKZFuOd_WQv-eQtZY7-mjKpHpeFPXZPCI-a-UAmMx-M718tXMeLDMEfEZNl3jSthviIYa_zL3T1wWyvZzFkff8Yefw7EXGHWesyi

It looks to me a good one and quite comprehensive.

The problem is that for us, in the subtropics , it does not offer any acceptable solutions.

We are never broodless, we may take honey off any time during the year.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on January 29, 2024, 05:54:28 pm
I understand that meetings have been held and a plan of attack is about to be released.
Farmers down South are in trouble.
Pumpkin, Zucchini and melon farmers report very poor yields - no bees, no pollination.
We have an interesting few years ahead.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on February 12, 2024, 06:13:29 pm
Good news!

Our DPI is starting to offer workshops in varroa management.
They also have published a booklet ( free) which should make it easy to keep track of management.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on February 12, 2024, 09:27:01 pm
This has just come in:
https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/AHBIC%20Varroa%20incursion%20update%2056.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on March 25, 2024, 10:13:34 pm
https://members.qbabees.org.au/Port-of-Brisbane-Incursion