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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => TOP BAR HIVES - WARRE HIVES - LONG HIVES => Topic started by: Ben Framed on July 17, 2020, 12:03:01 pm

Title: The Rose Hive
Post by: Ben Framed on July 17, 2020, 12:03:01 pm
I am picking up from the subject started by Bob Wilson."Follow Boards"

Bob, Ace, What do y'all think of the Rose Hive? I do not think it is any easier to access than the Regular Langstroth hive but may be lighter and easier to manage?  I have heard of the Rose hive and talked to the inventor about other matters. (Tim Rowe).  But I have not investigated this method, (learned the ins and outs of it). I just looked up a video about it, only watched a couple minutes and thought of you Bob.  I and plan on finishing watching it soon. I will post it here if you would like?
Title: Re: The Rose Hive
Post by: cao on July 17, 2020, 01:12:17 pm
I do not think it is any easier to access than the Regular Langstroth hive but may be lighter and easier to manage? 
lighter?  The boxes are 18+" square by about 7 1/2" tall.  That's somewhere between a 10 frame deep and a ten frame medium.  Probably closer to the deep.  Easier to manage.  That would be how one manages it.  If you only go through the top box then maybe, but if you need to lift any boxes I would need a stronger back. :wink:
Title: Re: The Rose Hive
Post by: Ben Framed on July 17, 2020, 11:30:22 pm
Hi Cao, I still have not watched the video. In that case what are the advantages of the Rose Hive?
Title: Re: The Rose Hive
Post by: Ben Framed on July 17, 2020, 11:59:47 pm
I just did a google depth comparison, Rose box is 7.48030 deep:  Langstroth Deep box is 9 5/8 deep : Langstroth medium 6 5/8 deep.

Yep Cao, I got the horse before the cart this time lol.  I do not see the advantage in the USA either. Scrap this topic In my opinion.  :grin:
Title: Re: The Rose Hive
Post by: Bob Wilson on July 18, 2020, 12:28:37 am
Lol. Ben. Like this scrapped topic, we are always on a quest for more ideas about beekeeping.
In my personal opinion, if a person wants to avoid lifting weight, a 4 foot Long Langstroth is the way to go.
1. 4 feet is the right length. Anything shorter is going to create a cramped colony. Plus 4 feet is the standard size for lumber.
2. Use standard langstroth frames. They don't attach to the sides like top bar hives. I can trade out frames of resources with any other beek or any other of my hives.
3. Use the standard deep (9 5/8 inch) langstroth frame. A four foot long lang holds 32 frames and is equivalent to three deep hive boxes.
Title: Re: The Rose Hive
Post by: Ben Framed on July 18, 2020, 12:43:48 am
Thanks Bob.
Title: Re: The Rose Hive
Post by: cao on July 18, 2020, 12:58:45 am
I think the "advantage" of the rose hive is that it is square.  Maximizes inside volume and minimizes outside surface area.  I have thought about making a square hive, but I haven't gotten around to it.
Title: Re: The Rose Hive
Post by: Michael Bush on July 19, 2020, 03:08:25 pm
Some of the "Rose Hive" is about the management.  You can experiment with those management methods with eight frame mediums...