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Offline Bob Wilson

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Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« on: April 26, 2021, 06:34:21 pm »
I have a friend, who is seeing bees clipping the wings off a few drones and kicking them out of the hive during our present honey flow. Do colonies sometimes kill drones drifting in from other hives?

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Re: Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2021, 06:58:44 pm »
I think what your friend is seeing is the results of Deformed Wing Virus, I have never seen drones removed from a colony during a nectar/pollen flow.

The beekeeping literature says that drones are welcome in all colonies, I know that I see drones of varied colors in my colonies.

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Re: Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2021, 09:22:28 pm »
I am inclined to believe AR is right....  Not the same thing but season before last I had drones all the way up to winter.
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Re: Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2021, 09:31:09 pm »
I see workers harassing drones at times, even during a flow, but I've never noticed any damaged drones during a flow personally.  Are you sure the flow is still on?  Perhaps you are undergoing a small dearth. 
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Re: Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2021, 10:35:44 pm »
Honey flow is still on. We have privit in full bloom right now. I will help him keep an eye on the issue. Thanks.

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Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2021, 10:52:07 pm »
Bob, I would go arm in arm with AR on this.  Ask your friend to be promptly sampling for varroa and him/her to ensure to be controlling them to protect their bees as well as the neighbours bees and the feral bees in the area.
I see drones drift and see the ofd one being pulled about by the bees but never malicious wing clipping until just before winter.   Especially not on a flow. On a flow the bees are too busy to be bothered and they welcome drones being around to support their upcoming swarm and supercedure intentions.
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Re: Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2021, 01:15:13 am »
As a side-note to seeing dead drones: I moved some hives last week. One of them was a Nuc. It was a 400 mile move, done completely at night, with screens. As I installed the hives to their new location the next morning, and removed the screens, I noticed lots of dead bees on the entrance of the Nuc. Closer inspection showed that all the dead bees were drones. I moved from "flow" to "flow". The queen in this Nuc is abut 4 weeks old with a solid brood pattern. The drones did not come from this hive. Apparently, they were "executed" as the cluster woke up. ... it's the only explanation I have anyways. ... just observations.
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Re: Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2021, 02:10:59 am »
As a side-note to seeing dead drones: I moved some hives last week. One of them was a Nuc. It was a 400 mile move, done completely at night, with screens. As I installed the hives to their new location the next morning, and removed the screens, I noticed lots of dead bees on the entrance of the Nuc. Closer inspection showed that all the dead bees were drones. I moved from "flow" to "flow". The queen in this Nuc is abut 4 weeks old with a solid brood pattern. The drones did not come from this hive. Apparently, they were "executed" as the cluster woke up. ... it's the only explanation I have anyways. ... just observations.

Alan I have dabbled into the science of AI/II; information only. (To complicated for me). From what I understand, drones do not do very well when captive, I do not know it the travel had anything to do with it or not but as I understand it, drones are very fragile.



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Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2021, 03:21:13 am »
As a side-note to seeing dead drones: I moved some hives last week. One of them was a Nuc. It was a 400 mile move, done completely at night, with screens. As I installed the hives to their new location the next morning, and removed the screens, I noticed lots of dead bees on the entrance of the Nuc. Closer inspection showed that all the dead bees were drones. I moved from "flow" to "flow". The queen in this Nuc is abut 4 weeks old with a solid brood pattern. The drones did not come from this hive. Apparently, they were "executed" as the cluster woke up. ... it's the only explanation I have anyways. ... just observations.
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Re: Kicking out drones during the honey flow?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2021, 11:50:38 am »

 Very kool observation Mr Cool!
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