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Offline Ben Framed

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California queen cage screen
« on: April 22, 2021, 08:48:12 pm »
I have purchased queens in the past. They were shipped in the old fashion wood type three hole California queen cages. During the winter months with extra time I made up several of these. My question before I add the screen, will regular window screen be adequate or is that too small? Thanks
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2021, 09:39:52 pm »
Good question I'm thinking 1/8th mesh.
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2021, 09:41:09 pm »
Ben, count the number of squares per inch of screen and use the same mesh.  Ten squares per inch is number 10 screen.  My screen is number 16 wire on a standard Ca queen holder, not the newer mini.  My queen frame is number 8 wire.  My front porch is number 20 wire.  Hope this helps, Buddy.
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2021, 09:57:02 pm »
Ben, count the number of squares per inch of screen and use the same mesh.  Ten squares per inch is number 10 screen.  My screen is number 16 wire on a standard Ca queen holder, not the newer mini.  My queen frame is number 8 wire.  My front porch is number 20 wire.  Hope this helps, Buddy.

Thanks Mr Van..... 🙂
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2021, 10:04:30 pm »
Good question I'm thinking 1/8th mesh.

Thanks Mr Mcquilkin. I have some number 8 that I used for oil trays when I was making oil traps for SHB. It does look similar but slightly larger where as regular window screen looks smaller. I was thinking the nurse bees should be able to tend to the queens through this screen if I were to bank a few mated queens for a rainy day, but on second thought, I thought better to be safe than sorry. I will count the holes as Mr Van described on one of the original cages where queens were shipped to me. Thank y'all for your replies.
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2021, 10:37:59 pm »
> My screen is number 16 wire on a standard Ca queen holder, not the newer mini.

Got it thanks!
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2021, 09:08:57 am »
I would be afraid of them being able to sting the queen through No. 8.
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2021, 09:35:29 am »
I would be afraid of them being able to sting the queen through No. 8.

You may be right rast.  Mr Vans are 16. I am glad of this. 16 is what I have plenty of. About the time he must have been posting , I found a video by Joe May explaining how he builds queen cages. Though he did not state the mesh size in the video, I found in the comment section where someone ask him if he uses number 8. He gave a quick No. He said he uses number 10. but 10 is hard to find. He went on to say 10 is the same size packages are shipped in, he uses screen from old package empties. Since 16 works for Mr Van, I am confident. My main concern if using my aluminum window screen was if the nurse bees could feed the mated queens through this smaller screen during times of banking.  (I figured they could but wanted to be sure). Thanks again Mr Van and along with each of you and your interest and comments.
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Re: California queen cage screen
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2021, 01:10:50 pm »
I would be afraid of them being able to sting the queen through No. 8.
good point  I watched some videos and it seems window screen works well
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