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Acebird?s mead.
« on: March 27, 2019, 08:38:05 pm »
Brian brought a bottle of mead to BeeFest 2019. If you didn?t get to try it you missed out on the best mead I have ever tasted. I have tried several and I didn?t like most of them. A friend of mine made some from my honey and it was pretty good but nothing like Brian?s mead. Judy and I finished up the bottle this evening. It competes and exceeds some of the best tasting wines that we have had.
Next year we should have a mead tasting contest.
Thanks Brian.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2019, 08:58:20 am »
Thanks Jim, but next year I won't have any to share.  Did you taste the honey?  I won't have any of that next year either.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2019, 09:06:06 am »
Any chance for a Recipe. Asking for a friend :happy:

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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2019, 09:54:10 am »
good mead is rare. congratulations! what kind of honey did you use, at what mixture water/honey and what is the alcohol-content?

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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2019, 10:42:30 am »
Ace,
How much honey would you need, according to your recipe, you need 5 quarts. I provide the honey, could I get half of it back at the next BeeFest? 😄
Can you pick up the honey on your next trip north. I could meet you at either I-95 or I-75 if you want.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2019, 10:48:40 am »
By the way, I was not comparing Brian?s mead to store bought honey. I am comparing it to the wine you get in the tasting rooms of the Sabastian winery in Florida and the Sabastiani winery in Napa Valley, California. It is that good.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2019, 01:48:18 pm »
yes, good mead tastes quite a bit like wine. that`s the difference.

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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2019, 02:31:45 pm »
Ace,
How much honey would you need, according to your recipe, you need 5 quarts. I provide the honey, could I get half of it back at the next BeeFest? 😄
Can you pick up the honey on your next trip north. I could meet you at either I-95 or I-75 if you want.
Jim

The problem is I need the carboys, pots and hydrometer.  Also my hoist for lifting the full carboys.  My planned trip is not until July returning in August.  That doesn't give the mead enough time to mellow.  I could bottle it early which will leave a lot of sediment.  Actually the mead you tasted was bottled early.  I have a syringe and tube rig that siphons out the mead from a bottle without getting the sediment.  That is what I did to what I brought to the beefest.
Hopefully we will close today on the last piece of property we have in NYS.  I might take an early run to retrieve my tools and stuff.  If I do I will stop in and pick up the mead and whip up a batch.  I will keep you posted.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2019, 02:47:00 pm »
Any chance for a Recipe. Asking for a friend :happy:
Brian,
If it is ok with you I will post the recipe.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2019, 02:50:13 pm »
Judy is going to the wine store today to buy the yeast. We have decided to try making it. Is the sterizer chemical that you can buy at the wine store ok to use?
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2019, 03:04:29 pm »
Judy is going to the wine store today to buy the yeast. We have decided to try making it. Is the sterizer chemical that you can buy at the wine store ok to use?
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It should be.  Even bleach.  There are two kinds, one you have to rinse after you sanitize and one you don't.  There is a difference between sterilizing and sanitizing.  Sterilizing you kill all the bugs, sanitizing will burn up carbon and may kill a few bugs, not all.  If you have any nicks and cuts you probably will want to wear gloves.  The hardest part is handling the glass carboys.  The sanitizer will make everything very slick so be careful.  I highly recommend handles on the carboys.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2019, 04:17:00 pm »
Any chance for a Recipe. Asking for a friend :happy:
Brian,
If it is ok with you I will post the recipe.
Jim Altmiller

Any updates on posting the recipe?  Thanks

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2019, 08:43:42 am »
If you PM your email address I can send you the word files.  Tables and formatting are not handled well by the forum.
I missed the question Jim.  Sure you can post it.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2019, 11:11:01 am »
Thanks Ace,
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2019, 11:13:16 am »
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2019, 05:05:43 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2019, 09:43:02 am »
One comment on the recipe above.  I list 2 packets of yeast but I only use one.  The second one is if the fermentation didn't start usually because of a goof.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2021, 09:58:17 pm »
Going to give this a shot this year.  Jim, how did your batch turn out last year?

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2021, 05:58:38 am »
We did not make any mead this year. Part of the reason was time. The other reason is my body does not handle alcohol very well. One glass of wine messes up my stomach, more than that and I get a headache.
Brian?s mead is the best mead I have ever tasted, It competes with some of the best wines that I have tried.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2021, 12:47:48 pm »
We did not make any mead this year. Part of the reason was time. The other reason is my body does not handle alcohol very well. One glass of wine messes up my stomach, more than that and I get a headache.
Brian?s mead is the best mead I have ever tasted, It competes with some of the best wines that I have tried.
Jim Altmiller

Thanks for the quick follow-up.  Any suggestions as to the honey variety?  I plan to use one of my own, but they vary from white down to amber.  Do the character and complexities of the darker honey carry through into the Meade and add to it (or hinder it) at all? O,r is it best to stick with a more traditional white honey that's perhaps extra floral?

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2021, 06:40:55 pm »
I would use the honey with the strongest flavor. I would also first pick the one with the highest water content. Here, sometimes my honey is up around 18.5%. If I was pulling honey and it was higher, instead of drying it I would just use it for mead.
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2021, 07:56:42 pm »
I would use the honey with the strongest flavor. I would also first pick the one with the highest water content. Here, sometimes my honey is up around 18.5%. If I was pulling honey and it was higher, instead of drying it I would just use it for mead.
Jim Altmiller

Thank you for the tips, Jim.  Makes sense about using honey with higher moisture to save on the work of dehydrating it. 

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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2021, 09:15:08 am »

Any suggestions as to the honey variety?  I plan to use one of my own, but they vary from white down to amber.  Do the character and complexities of the darker honey carry through into the Meade and add to it (or hinder it) at all? O,r is it best to stick with a more traditional white honey that's perhaps extra floral?

I only harvested honey once a year in late fall so it was a blend.  Unless you are trying to attain a specific flavor I would use a blend.  Specific flavors come about by additives, fruit for instance.  The hardest part about making mead is patience.  You just have to wait.  The longer you wait the better it gets.
I am totally out of honey, my bees are not producing they are just existing, and I have but one bottle of NY mead left.  I hate to crack it open until I can make another batch.
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Re: Acebird?s mead.
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2021, 01:06:45 pm »

Any suggestions as to the honey variety?  I plan to use one of my own, but they vary from white down to amber.  Do the character and complexities of the darker honey carry through into the Meade and add to it (or hinder it) at all? O,r is it best to stick with a more traditional white honey that's perhaps extra floral?

I only harvested honey once a year in late fall so it was a blend.  Unless you are trying to attain a specific flavor I would use a blend.  Specific flavors come about by additives, fruit for instance.  The hardest part about making mead is patience.  You just have to wait.  The longer you wait the better it gets.
I am totally out of honey, my bees are not producing they are just existing, and I have but one bottle of NY mead left.  I hate to crack it open until I can make another batch.

Thanks for jumping in Acebird.  All of my harvests are wildflower, so it's just seasonal varieties for me.  As I do lots of removals now, I do run across other hives if different areas around the island with different wildflower sources than my apiary.  So I end up with a variety throughout the year from white to amber.  I just want sure if lighter vs. darker honey yielded different tasting Meade depending on the honey used as the darker honey's tend to have more intense flavor profiles.

But now I'm going to need to buy all the gear and supplies, oh darn...lol.  Would you suggest it probably best to go to a local home-brewery supply?  I figure they should have everything I need.

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2021, 08:40:19 am »
You would need bottles, at least two glass carboys, a hydrometer, large pot, funnel, air lock, a wine thief and tubing.  Local brewery suppliers kept going out of business for me so I resorted to buying online.  Oh I forgot a strong back to lift full carboys.  I made a hoist out of a boat winch to help with that.
oops, forgot a thermometer..
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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2021, 01:02:38 pm »
Thanks for the list.  There's still one or two brewery supply companies in Honolulu--I'll check on them and support local, if possible. My back is not so great.  It's one of the reasons I chose to go the route of 8-frame hives.  So, thanks for that tip; I had not thought that far ahead yet as to moving full carboys!

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2021, 09:26:52 am »
Moving is easy with a wheeled cart but lifting is the problem.  The last thing you want to do is drop or break a carboy.  That is why you want to think about how to clean a carboy.  They are slippery when wet.  That brings up another item you need.  Handles for the carboys if they don't have them.  Caps and stoppers too.
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